# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9741 "2013-06-07T17:00:43Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Not bad, but he really doesn’t seem to get the idea of a single-elimination tournament, does he?

If both survive the _lirpa_…

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9742 "2013-06-07T17:32:41Z")

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Ah, it’s more amusing than stupid, but Yahoo right now has a news item on their feed  
"[Romney Optimistic about Republican Win in 2016".](http://www.cnbc.com/id/100797248?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7Cheadline%7Cstory&par=yahoo&doc=100797248%7CRomney%20Optimistic%20About%20R)

I’m not sure I’d be relying on the guy who, in the face of consistently negative polling, didn’t even prepare a concession speech as my oracle for events 3 1/2 years away.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9743 "2013-06-07T20:23:31Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> Ah, it’s more amusing than stupid, but Yahoo right now has a news item on their feed  
> "[Romney Optimistic about Republican Win in 2016".](http://www.cnbc.com/id/100797248?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7Cheadline%7Cstory&par=yahoo&doc=100797248%7CRomney%20Optimistic%20About%20R)
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> I’m not sure I’d be relying on the guy who, in the face of consistently negative polling, didn’t even prepare a concession speech as my oracle for events 3 1/2 years away.

I like the Halo around Romney’s head in the photo in that link.

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**Author:** ![fudrucker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fudrucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fudrucker)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9744 "2013-06-08T00:37:21Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Hey **fudfucker**! Go check out the thread on what happened with privitized prisons elsewhere in this forum and then come back and tell us about local governments are so much better and more transparent.

Private prisons are simply contractors for the federal and state prison systems. They have nothing to with any sort of local government. They are overseen by the federal government, same regulations.

> [@silenus](#):
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> Then crawl up a elephant’s ass.

Another brilliant response by a big government loving liberal.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9745 "2013-06-08T00:40:23Z")

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> [@fudrucker](#):
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> Private prisons are simply contractors for the federal and state prison systems. **They have nothing to with any sort of local government. They are overseen by the federal government, same regulations.**
> 
> Another brilliant response by a big government loving liberal.

[Bullshit.](http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/us/13judge.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0)

Started in 2003, jailed over 5,000 youths with NO legal representation.

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**Author:** ![fudrucker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fudrucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fudrucker)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9746 "2013-06-08T00:43:10Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> [Bullshit.](http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/us/13judge.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0)
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> Started in 2003, jailed over 5,000 youths with NO legal representation.

lol. What does a corrupt judge have to do with private prisons? Try again ace.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9747 "2013-06-08T00:46:26Z")

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> [@fudrucker](#):
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> lol. What does a corrupt judge have to do with private prisons? Try again ace.

He was taking kickbacks from the operators of the local prison to send youthful offenders to that facility.  
if you had read the article, you’d know that.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9748 "2013-06-08T07:43:40Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> There have to be Republicans involved in this somehow:
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> [Page not found • The Orbit](http://freethoughtblogs.com/ashleymiller/2013/06/06/its-ok-to-shoot-hookers-in-texas-but-only-if-its-dark-outside/)
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> A guy rented an escort; she didn’t think the fee included sex; he did.
> 
> When his time was up, she tried to leave. He shot her, she died.
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> He was acquitted, because Texas has a law that says it’s OK to use deadly force to recover property at night.

Now, let’s be fair. The prosecutors (themselves probably good 'ol boys who would have acquitted if on the jury) argued differently:

[QUOTE=Prosecutors, Liberal whore-coddlers of Texas vs Good 'Ol Boy Ezekiel Gilbert]  
The Texas law that allows people to use deadly force to recover property during a nighttime theft was put in place for “law-abiding” citizens, prosecutors Matt Lovell and Jessica Schulze countered. It’s not intended for someone trying to force another person into an illegal act such as prostitution, they argued.  
[/QUOTE]

And those who slide the slippery slope to say that guns may be legally used against rape victims who resist are full of shit. They can only be legally shot in the night-time. Or, presumably, if their skin is of night-time color.

Sheeeesh. The hatred these liberal message boards have against Texas, the state that brought us George W. Bush, once vote The Greatest Living American.

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**Author:** ![fudrucker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fudrucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fudrucker)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9749 "2013-06-08T08:33:25Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> He was taking kickbacks from the operators of the local prison to send youthful offenders to that facility.  
> if you had read the article, you’d know that.

I read it. And I’ll concede those points. But my point is it is all a part of the prison system with direct oversight by the government. And that oversight failed. It’s just one more example of arrogant heavy handed government corruption.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9750 "2013-06-08T08:59:03Z")

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> [@fudrucker](#):
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> I read it. And I’ll concede those points. But my point is it is all a part of the prison system with direct oversight by the government. And that oversight failed. It’s just one more example of arrogant heavy handed government corruption.

**fudrucker** is absolutely right! If only we had private oversight of private prisons this sort of thing never would have happened.

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**Author:** ![fudrucker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fudrucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fudrucker)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9751 "2013-06-08T09:20:59Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> **fudrucker** is absolutely right! If only we had private oversight of private prisons this sort of thing never would have happened.

Actually, I think this whole prison overcrowding issue could be resolved by ridding ourselves of these insane drug laws that put people in prison simply for being addicts.

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9752 "2013-06-08T13:40:02Z")

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> [@fudrucker](#):
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> Oh well then I’ll clarify. The pubic schools are a disgrace which should have been replaced by a voucher system long ago. Public road funds are held hostage by the feds in extortion for complying with illegal federal laws. I would refuse to send or accept any federal highway money. And since water treatment is largely local municipalities I would leave that alone.

Yeah, you’re a registered Democrat. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9753 "2013-06-08T14:30:11Z")

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Rush Limbaugh clearly doesn’t know what _coup d’etat_ means, as he’s accusing President Obama of planning one.

[Rush Limbaugh Is Pretty Sure This TIme That Obama’s Leading a Coup D’Etat](http://news.yahoo.com/rush-limbaugh-pretty-sure-time-obamas-leading-coup-205348125.html)

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9754 "2013-06-08T14:53:50Z")

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> [@fudrucker](#):
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> Private prisons are simply contractors for the federal and state prison systems. They have nothing to with any sort of local government. They are overseen by the federal government, same regulations.
> 
> Another brilliant response by a big government loving liberal.

Call me a big government loving liberal, but I personally think private prisons are a bad idea because you should not create economic incentives to deprive some of liberty. Talk about preverse incentives. All the regulations and oversight in the world won’t matter; if it is possible to make a buck locking people up, people will get locked up, in some case unjustly.

Even though that one corrupt judge is only an anecdote, there is circumstantial evidence of this occurring in other states and other prisons. There is also evidense of huge amounts of lobbying occurring where corporate prisons are financing three strikes laws and harsher sentences for minor crimes in a successful attempt to increase prison populations and maximize profit. Allowing people to profit off this is just a bad idea, the economic incentives lead to bad things.

But you, **fudrucker** , being a registered democrat, probably don’t believe in things like the free market invisible hand and economic incentives. It amazes me how obtuse you democrats can be when it comes to things like the unintended consequences of given profit opportunities to incarcerating citizens or killing brown people overseas.

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9755 "2013-06-08T15:38:53Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> Yeah, you’re a registered Democrat. :rolleyes:

If s/he is, almost certainly it’s to attempt to throw a monkey wrench into Dems primaries by voting for the worse candidate to face the GOPer in the election.

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**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9756 "2013-06-08T15:47:03Z")

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> [@sciurophobic](#):
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> Rush Limbaugh clearly doesn’t know what _coup d’etat_ means, as he’s accusing President Obama of planning one.
> 
> [Rush Limbaugh Is Pretty Sure This TIme That Obama’s Leading a Coup D’Etat](http://news.yahoo.com/rush-limbaugh-pretty-sure-time-obamas-leading-coup-205348125.html)

On the good side, a Conservative now accepts the right to privacy.

> [@](#):
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> "Chief among them under assault is the right to privacy,

I always thought they denied that the Constitution guaranteed that right.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9757 "2013-06-08T16:30:24Z")

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Consistency is the hobgoblin of [del]little[/del] liberal minds…

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9758 "2013-06-08T23:53:13Z")

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> [@L. G. Butts](#):
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> Call me a big government loving liberal, but I personally think private prisons are a bad idea because you should not create economic incentives to deprive some of liberty. Talk about preverse incentives. . . .

Any time anybody suggested laxer laws, such as repealing laws against drug use, the response would be, “You’re costing people their jobs.”

At least if we’re only eliminating government jobs, there is a public incentive in favor, as it saves the taxpayers money.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9759 "2013-06-09T20:43:14Z")

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**(GOP) Candidate for Roanoke County Board of Supervisors: Religious Freedom Only Applies to Christians**

> **[More Voices | Patheos](https://www.patheos.com/more-voices)**

> [@](#):
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> … Freedom of religion has become the biggest hoax placed upon the Christian people and on our Christian nation.
> 
> When reading the writings of our Founding Founders, there was never any reference to freedom of religion referring to a choice between Islam, Hindu, Satanism, Wicca and whatever other religions or cults you would like to dream up. It was very clear that freedom to worship meant the freedom to worship the God of the Bible in the way you wanted, and not to have a government church denomination dictate how you would worship.

He wrote that six years ago, but still stands by it.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9760 "2013-06-09T21:26:50Z")

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It’s kind of Republican-special that he doesn’t know the god of Islam _is_ the god of the Bible - the god of Abraham.

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