# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9921 "2013-06-28T15:33:35Z")

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Right wing (all GOP?) reactions to the Supreme Court DOMA decision:

> **[Santorum: 'Death Knell' of Marriage Approaching](https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/post/santorum-death-knell-of-marriage-approaching)**

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> \*\*Rick Santorum \*\*told NewsmaxTV yesterday that the gay rights victories at the Supreme Court are paving the way for the “death knell” of marriage. The former senator and presidential candidate, who on Wednesday claimed that the Supreme Court’s marriage rulings represent the loss of freedom, maintained that the DOMA decision will allow the Supreme Court “to establish some sort of constitutional right or find that marriage is unconstitutional in its current form. That to me will put the death knell in it.”

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> The Family Research Council’s **Tony Perkins** has already called the Supreme Court’s ruling striking down the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act “absurd,” and warned that it presents “a clear and present danger to the freedom of speech and the freedom of religion in our country” and pushes America further down the road to becoming Sodom and Gomorrah. - See more at: [Perkins: SCOTUS Gave Gays Benefits Meant for 'Real Spouses' | People For](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/perkins-scotus-gave-gays-benefits-meant-real-spouses#sthash.kGNwf4rf.dpuf)

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> **Peter LaBarbera** of Americans for Truth about Homosexuality apparently had to spend quite some time stewing over the Supreme Court’s decision striking down the key provision of the Defense of Marriage Act, finally coming out today with a press release slamming the decision. The high court’s decision, LaBarbera writes, “continues America’s godless trajectory toward sexual and gender chaos” and helps to make us “a Profane Nation at war with our own heritage.” - See more at: [LaBarbera Reacts to DOMA Ruling: 'Craven' Kennedy 'Sold out Almighty God for a Place in the Gay Hall of Fame' | People For](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/labarbera-reacts-doma-ruling-craven-kennedy-sold-out-almighty-god-place-gay-hall-fame#sthash.xeSXIcvp.dpuf)

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> Yesterday, TruNews host \*\*Rick Wiles \*\*warned that immigration reform proposals and the Supreme Court’s decisions on same-sex marriage are both efforts to attack freedom and destroy the Constitution.
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> **snip** \*  
> “how long until the Supreme Court rules that the US Constitution itself is unconstitutional?”
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> Wiles speculated that “Chairman Obama” will soon force churches to conduct same-sex marriages as part of his “cultural revolution.”
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> - See more at: [Wiles: Americans 'Will Float on Rafts to Cuba to Get Away from El Presidente Obama's Communist Revolution' | People For](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/wiles-americans-will-float-rafts-cuba-get-away-el-presidente-obamas-communist-revolution#sthash.38TTItZb.dpuf)

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> **Gary Bauer** is joining other anti-gay activists in warning that they should prepare to face jail time as a result of gay rights victories at the Supreme Court. In the Washington Times today, Bauer claims that people who oppose same-sex marriage will “find themselves in court” and religious people may soon be “fined or jailed” because of their views.
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> The ultimate goal of homosexual-rights activists is not to legalize same-sex marriage. Rather, it is to silence those who disagree with them and, if necessary, to throw them in jail.
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> - See more at: [Bauer: Anti-Gay Activists May Be Thrown in Jail Following DOMA Ruling | People For](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bauer-anti-gay-activists-may-be-thrown-jail-following-doma-ruling#sthash.nFNlIXvk.dpuf)

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> Religious Right activist \*\*Paul Craft, writing for Alan Keyes’ Renew America, \*\*knows just how state governments that oppose gay marriage should respond to the Supreme Court’s ruling on DOMA: secede. Calling the DOMA decision “the beginning of the end for the United States of America,” Craft urged states that are against marriage equality to “stand for liberty” and “secede from the union” since “things will only get worse” here on out. - See more at: [Renew America: Anti-Gay States Should Secede From the Union | People For](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/renew-america-anti-gay-states-should-secede-union#sthash.tOoBG8HB.dpuf)

The obvious common theme of these ravings is that by granting at least partial marital equality to gays, the Supreme Court has taken away rights of people in straight marriages.

Ravings (or insane ravings) describes those quotes to a tee.

Well, I’ve been in a straight marriage for over forty years now and I do not feel the least little bit threatened in any way that some of my kids’ friends can now get married (if they’re in a free state) to their same sex partners. I’ve never been to a same sex wedding, but if ever invited I plan to attend and enjoy myself.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9922 "2013-06-28T15:57:36Z")

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**Bucky** , I’m still trying to figure out how all the gays are going to destroy my marriage when none of them will even make a pass at me.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9923 "2013-06-28T16:20:59Z")

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The Rick Wiles quotes are my favorite. I’m also a fan of how he thinks people will float on rafts to Cuba to escape “El Presidente Obama’s Communist revolution.”

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9924 "2013-06-28T16:24:04Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> **Bucky** , I’m still trying to figure out how all the gays are going to destroy my marriage when none of them will even make a pass at me.

Sorry-Ain’t gonna happen. On the other hand, have you noticed any strange women throwing smiles and/or winks towards your wife lately? 😃

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9925 "2013-06-28T16:26:11Z")

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Holy mackerel, this one actually shocked me. I am still shockable, I guess:

Gay Legislator Blocked from Speaking in ‘Rebellion Against God’s Law’

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> “I did not believe that as a member of that body that I should allow someone to make comments such as he was preparing to make that ultimately were just open rebellion against what the word of God has said, what God has said, and just open rebellion against God’s law,” said Metcalfe, R-Butler. - See more at: [Gay Legislator Blocked from Speaking in 'Rebellion Against God's Law' | People For](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/gay-legislator-blocked-speaking-rebellion-against-god-s-law#sthash.oga4Ef6v.dpuf)

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9926 "2013-06-28T16:32:50Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Holy mackerel, this one actually shocked me. I am still shockable, I guess:
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> Gay Legislator Blocked from Speaking in ‘Rebellion Against God’s Law’

Welcome to Pennsylvania-that-isn’t-Pittsburgh-or-Philly. My preferred framing of this is “Rep. Metcalfe was so terrified of his physical reaction to Rep. Sims’ pure, industrial-strength hotness that he had to stop him from speaking.”

[Brian Sims](http://www.gayrva.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/image_2.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9927 "2013-06-28T16:35:01Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Welcome to Pennsylvania-that-isn’t-Pittsburgh-or-Philly. My preferred framing of this is “Rep. Metcalfe was so terrified of his physical reaction to Rep. Sims’ pure, industrial-strength hotness that he had to stop him from speaking.”
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> [Brian Sims](http://www.gayrva.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/image_2.jpeg)

After seeing the pic? I can totally buy that.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9928 "2013-06-28T16:36:32Z")

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If he shaved I might go gay for him.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9929 "2013-06-28T16:38:29Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> The obvious common theme of these ravings is that by granting at least partial marital equality to gays, the Supreme Court has taken away rights of people in straight marriages.

So much hot air but yet they still can’t string together a coherent argument against gay marriage. They can’t even lie about it, the issue triggers some primal rage factor that seems to shut down all critical thinking.

Yesterday (unfortunately no cite), the local liberal talk radio gave a platform to Dr. John Eastman of Chapman University who is the Chairman of the National Organization for Marriage. They were discussing the SCOTUS decision and the host, Mario Solis (subbing for David Cruz), asked about why Eastman feels the SCOTUS decision was wrong. Eastman got into the whole notion of standing, and argued that the court was wrong and the defendants did have standing to fight the case in court. Standing apparently boils down to 2 criteria: 1) you’re representing someone else who has standing to defend a case, and 2) you’re a victim.

Eastman, despite given multiple chances, just could not articulate a reason for why #2 was valid (he already agreed that based on #1, the defendants didn’t have standing) because as we all know, there are NO victims in gay marriage and there never will be. This, apparently, doctor, a scholar at a university, could not answer the basic question of how people were harmed.

It almost made me want to call in to remind the host and the audience that, months and years ago, during the actual Prop 8 trial, the lawyers against Prop 8 got star witnesses on the homophobic side to agree there was no harm. All of this harm stuff is bullshit! That’s why no conservative can ever come up with a good reason that will stand in court! They’ve had years to do it and no one person on the GOP side has been able to even bullshit a plausible reason! Especially not one that can stand up in court. The ONLY reason anybody has to be against gay marriage are traditional and personal ickiness. Even god himself wouldn’t be able to come up with a reason

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9930 "2013-06-28T16:47:11Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> If he shaved I might go gay for him.

[I actually think he looks better with the beard](http://brianksims.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Crisman_Photo.169214617_std.jpg), although he’s no slouch either way.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9931 "2013-06-28T20:18:22Z")

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I’d do him.  
(Did I just say that out loud?)  
Oops…the wife heard me. Got to go!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9932 "2013-06-28T20:32:07Z")

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No, thanks, I get enough rejection from women.

(stolen, _WKRP in Cincinnati_)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9933 "2013-06-28T22:29:43Z")

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Fox News’ Erick Erickson took to his blog recently to [complain](http://www.redstate.com/2013/06/26/why-america-hates-washington/) that the price of milk and bread are continuing to go up in spite of the lack of inflation. This prompted noted economist and reality fan Paul Krugman to point out in _his_ blog that [that statement is completely false -](http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/26/non-inflation-denial/?_r=0) the price of bread has pretty much been flat since 2008, and bread is about the same price today as it was in 2004.

Erickson’s rebuttal? [It doesn’t matter if the price of bread and milk aren’t going up](http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/06/krugman-hits-erickson-for-fake-populism-167325.html), as long as people _think_ that they are!

[QUOTE=Erick Erickson]  
Not everything is academic or chartable and sometimes the accuracy of the chart isn’t as real to people as the perception they have that their grocery store bills are getting more expensive though their shopping habits haven’t changed…

Seriously, Paul’s point is correct, but it is an issue of perception of people versus the reality of his chart. He can certainly go tell people milk prices haven’t gone up, but good luck getting them to believe him.

[/QUOTE]

Where’s Stephen Colbert when we need him?

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9934 "2013-06-28T23:27:07Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Right wing (all GOP?) reactions to the Supreme Court DOMA decision:  
> [Santorum: 'Death Knell' of Marriage Approaching | People For](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/santorum-death-knell-marriage-approaching)
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> > Yesterday, TruNews host Rick Wiles warned that immigration reform proposals and the Supreme Court’s decisions on same-sex marriage are both efforts to attack freedom and destroy the Constitution.
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> > **snip** \*  
> > “how long until the Supreme Court rules that the US Constitution itself is unconstitutional?”

He just blew my mind.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9935 "2013-06-28T23:44:02Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Where’s Stephen Colbert when we need him?

> [@Stephen Colbert](#):
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> That’s where the truth lies, right down here in the gut. Do you know you have more nerve endings in your gut than you have in your head? You can look it up. I know some of you are going to say, ‘I did look it up and that’s not true.’ That’s ‘cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9936 "2013-06-29T00:03:33Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> **Bucky** , I’m still trying to figure out how all the gays are going to destroy my marriage when none of them will even make a pass at me.

I’m stealing this.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9937 "2013-06-29T00:08:11Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Erickson’s rebuttal? [It doesn’t matter if the price of bread and milk aren’t going up](http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/06/krugman-hits-erickson-for-fake-populism-167325.html), as long as people _think_ that they are!

As far as I can parse this, Eric is complaining that it does not matter what the facts are, the point is that people are believing his lies about prices, and so this is a problem that needs to be dealt with by someone!

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9938 "2013-06-29T01:47:46Z")

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Excuse me, but this just came to my attention:

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> “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live!” proclaimed Texas Congressman Louie Gohmert (R) at a rally sponsored by the Republican Study Committee (RSC), Thursday. Unusually forceful in his language, Rep. Gohmert was wrapping up a speech advocating a bill that called for stricter regulation of witches’ covens and other occult related organizations in several states along the Mississippi River Basin.

from [StartLogic](http://www.admala.org/?p=412)

PLEASE tell me this is a hoax.  
Witches’ Covens?  
Really?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9939 "2013-06-29T01:56:36Z")

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> [@Gagundathar](#):
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> Excuse me, but this just came to my attention:
> 
> from [StartLogic](http://www.admala.org/?p=412)
> 
> PLEASE tell me this is a hoax.  
> Witches’ Covens?  
> Really?

Satire. Not very GOOD satire (and arguably actually worse than the Daily Currant stuff…which SHOULD take work) but satire.

Not to mention counterproductive. Gohmert is stupid enough and vocal enough that there’s TONS of stuff that he’s actually said to be snide about. There’s no need to make over-the-top stuff up as he serves the real thing piping hot fresh from his scrambled brains every day.

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9940 "2013-06-29T02:12:18Z")

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OK, that is good to know.  
Poe’s Law, I guess. You never can tell these days.

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