# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1021 "2010-01-08T19:12:48Z")
Time for **Shodan** to tell us “We have always been at war with Eastasia”. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1022 "2010-01-08T19:15:42Z")
> [@bup](#): > > [Giuliani says we had no domestic terrorist attacks under Bush 43.](http://mediamatters.org/research/201001080013) > > _Giuliani_. By “domestic” does he mean “on U.S. soil, committed by [a] U.S. citizen[s]?” “With explosives/projectile weapons?” That’s the only way to eliminate _everything_ that happened on George Bush the Lesses’s watch, including the anthrax attacks. Except the murders of some abortion providers, and the shoot-em-up in the Lib’rul church, and . . . What the hell _does_ he mean? ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1023 "2010-01-08T19:19:56Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > According to the mediamatters link, he said this on Stephanopolis’s show. Did Stephanopolis _ **all** _ him on this? I agree. He should be awled. (Not fatally, of course, but enough to trepan out the demons at the root of his evil. If spiritualism isn’t your thing, then I’m good with a lobotomy.) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1024 "2010-01-08T19:56:43Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > What is it with these Republicans repeating this shit? It’s literally like they’re tring to say the sky is green and the grass is blue. Do they think people will believe them? Giuliani, of all people, no longer remembers 9/11? Abso-fucking-lutely they are trying to re-write history, and they are doing it in a concerted, systematic fashion. Leading republican figures are singing from the same songbook. And you can be damn sure that 30% of the population are going to suck it down and start believing it wholeheartedly. They want people to believe that 9/11 happened under Clinton, and that the recession started under Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1025 "2010-01-08T19:57:27Z")
> [@bup](#): > > [Giuliani says we had no domestic terrorist attacks under Bush 43.](http://mediamatters.org/research/201001080013) > > _Giuliani_. I don’t understand any of this. Why are they saying this? Why are they thinking they can get away with it? Why isn’t anybody on these shows at least correcting them, if not actually calling them liars? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1026 "2010-01-08T20:00:35Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > Why isn’t anybody on these shows at least correcting them, if not actually calling them liars? Gotta love that liberal media! ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1027 "2010-01-08T20:03:28Z")
I started a [GD thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=547006) specifically about the revisionism, if anyone wants to participate. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1028 "2010-01-08T22:26:10Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > What is it with these Republicans repeating this shit? It’s literally like they’re tring to say the sky is green and the grass is blue. Do they think people will believe them? Giuliani, of all people, no longer remembers 9/11? Well, obviously nobody remembers it. Otherwise he’d be President 9/11 Rudy. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1029 "2010-01-08T22:29:35Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > I don’t understand any of this. Why are they saying this? Why are they thinking they can get away with it? Why isn’t anybody on these shows at least correcting them, if not actually calling them liars? If called on it, they’ll just bluster about how it is CLEAR that they meant BESIDES 9/11, and why is the liberal media picking on them, and why does the media hate America? ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1030 "2010-01-08T22:36:45Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Abso-fucking-lutely they are trying to re-write history, and they are doing it in a concerted, systematic fashion. Leading republican figures are singing from the same songbook. And you can be damn sure that 30% of the population are going to suck it down and start believing it wholeheartedly. They want people to believe that 9/11 happened under Clinton, and that the recession started under Obama. I had some crazy bitch IRL insist that Ruby Ridge was all Bill Clinton’s fault. Absolutely refused to believe otherwise. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1031 "2010-01-08T22:54:41Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > If called on it, they’ll just bluster about how it is CLEAR that they meant BESIDES 9/11 …which is still wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1032 "2010-01-08T22:56:25Z")
> [@bup](#): > > …which is still wrong. Oh come on, the Anthrax guy was white and the shoe bomber didn’t actually do it on US soil now did he!??! Eat lojik, hippy! -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1033 "2010-01-08T23:01:21Z")
> [@bup](#): > > …which is still wrong. Let’s not go on and on about tiny little details, you wonk! What matters is that you hate America! ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1034 "2010-01-08T23:46:29Z")
Okay, so besides 9/11 and the shoe bomber and the anthrax mail and the beltway snipers, **no** domestic terrorist acts occurred under the previous administration. All right? That good enough for you? ---
**Author:** ![Alienhand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8edcca/32.png) [@Alienhand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alienhand)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1035 "2010-01-09T00:11:16Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > Okay, so besides 9/11 and the shoe bomber and the anthrax mail and the beltway snipers, **no** domestic terrorist acts occurred under the previous administration. All right? That good enough for you? There was that shooting at the Israeli airline counter at LAX. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1036 "2010-01-09T00:17:12Z")
> [@Alienhand](#): > > There was that shooting at the Israeli airline counter at LAX. And don’t forget the smiley face bomber. You forgot the [smiley face bomber.](http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/05/09/mailbox.pipebombs/) > [@](#): > > [Ultimately](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Helder), Helder planted 18 bombs and covered 3,200 miles.[2] He was eventually captured in rural Nevada before he managed to complete the full smile. At the time of his arrest, police were looking for an unknown suspect driving around in a black Honda Accord and newspapers reported that he was wearing a Kurt Cobain T-Shirt.[3] The bombings were heavily covered by the United States media. 18 bombs, all on Bush’s watch. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1037 "2010-01-09T01:06:44Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > What is it with these Republicans repeating this shit? It’s literally like they’re tring to say the sky is green and the grass is blue. Do they think people will believe them? Giuliani, of all people, no longer remembers 9/11? > > According to the mediamatters link, he said this on Stephanopolis’s show. Did Stephanopolis _all_ him on this? Has anyone ever called _any_ of these jackasses (Matalin, Perino and Giuliani that I know of have now repeated this howler) on this shit? My guess is, someone in the 'Pub thinktank stumbled upon Goebbels “big lie” theory and reckoned that if a big lie works, a colossal stinker must work even faster ! ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1038 "2010-01-09T01:23:20Z")
> [@Frostillicus](#): > > Does Oily Titz count? [firesign]Only to five, Mudhead[/firesign] ---
**Author:** ![Oldeb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@Oldeb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oldeb)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1039 "2010-01-09T01:54:38Z")
It’s really just to prepare us for the actual truth about what happened. What happened was that 9/11 was not a terrorist attack but a government operation planned by the Clinton Administration. I mean, c’mon, you think some little planes managed to take down two giant towers? How is that even possible? So why did Clinton do it? Because he wanted to set Bush up so he’d have to go into Afghanistan. See, Clinton knew it was unwinnable and he wanted Bush to fail. (Clinton knew that you never start a land war in Asia. He also didn’t play mind games with Sicilians. He’s a smart guy. He likes blowjobs too. And not from just strangers at the airport like decent folk, but with people he’s met. ) Clinton also knew that there was no way Bush could be involved with a war in the Middle East and not want to get revenge on the bad man who wanted to hurt his daddy. Only some with no family values at all could let people who want to hurt your daddy run around. And Bush doesn’t hate his family. He’s a real American with real values. Wouldn’t you do the same? Or do you hate families? So Clinton now has his successor locked up in two disastrous wars. It’s not Bush’s fault. It’s like sending someone into a meth lab to smoke a crack rock and being shocked when he does some meth too. Bush had no chance to thwart these Machiavellian plans of the Democrats. Clinton knew exactly how a real American would respond and used our values against us! Why did Clinton do all this? That’s obvious. By turning the people of these United States against the Republican Party (who, remember, are innocent victims here duped along with the rest of us by that smug BJ-getting asshole) he could run his candidate of choice in the next election. A man he could control as a puppet even as he worked to bring our entire country crashing down upon us. Someone whose very act of taking office would violate that most sacred of documents, the US Constitution: A Kenyan! The Republican Party is just trying to release this information a little at a time in order to prevent the chaos that could happen when the Truth is finally revealed. All the REAL Americans will be horrified and shocked if you just drop this on them without warning. And can you blame them? It’s bad enough that there’s people out there who hate our freedoms (which is why we should torture the lot of them as we hold them without trial) but now we have someone who uses our very families and values against us! …too much? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/1040 "2010-01-09T04:55:58Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > And don’t forget the smiley face bomber. > You forgot the [smiley face bomber.](http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/05/09/mailbox.pipebombs/) > > 18 bombs, all on Bush’s watch. Wikipedia also lists [8 incidents of bombing or arson](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#Arson.2C_bombing.2C_and_property_crime) committed by anti-abortion terrorists while Bush was President, so we’re well intoi double digits on terrorsit attacks under Bush. The defense that they mean attacks _since_ 9/11 is too disingenuous to deserve any credit anyway. 9/11 COUNTS. They don’t get to say it doesn’t. It’s like the old joke about Mrs. Lincoln. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=51) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=53)