# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10461 "2013-08-29T02:40:00Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> What is the difference between “proper handwriting” and cursive?

The term “cursive” is not the name of a specific script. What was taught as cursive in schools was a very bad script loopy called [D’Nealian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D'Nealian).

What I mean by “proper handwriting” is teaching children letterforms that are natural to the human hand—slanted ovals and linking strokes. It doesn’t necessarily matter what the eventual letterform is, but you start with a basic Italic script and let each individual go from there — what in Britain is called “joined-up writing.”

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10462 "2013-08-29T14:48:22Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> The term “cursive” is not the name of a specific script. What was taught as cursive in schools was a very bad script loopy called [D’Nealian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D'Nealian).
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> ."

Only since 1978, according to your link. Before that it was the **Palmer** method, which is what I was taught (and which, to my untrained eyes, looks indistinguishable from D’Nealian.  
Seriously, “D’Nealian”? It’s a made-up name with an absurd apostrophe in it, and it looks like the name of an alien culture from the _Star Trek_ universe.  
“Captain, the D’Nealians are ignoring our hailing messages and are moving to attack!”

“Activate the Palmer torpedos”

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10463 "2013-08-29T15:05:09Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> The term “cursive” is not the name of a specific script. What was taught as cursive in schools was a very bad script loopy called [D’Nealian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D'Nealian).
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> What I mean by “proper handwriting” is teaching children letterforms that are natural to the human hand—slanted ovals and linking strokes. It doesn’t necessarily matter what the eventual letterform is, but you start with a basic Italic script and let each individual go from there — what in Britain is called “joined-up writing.”

“Joined-up” is just the British term for cursive. It doesn’t refer to a specific script either. British schools teach the same sort of rigid penmanship styles US schools did, or at least they used to. At primary school I was taught Marion Richardson (unlooped linked script) and later, round cursive.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10464 "2013-08-29T16:07:48Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> The term “cursive” is not the name of a specific script. What was taught as cursive in schools was a very bad script loopy called [D’Nealian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D'Nealian).

Heh. I remember that style. I used to doodle by turning the D’Nealian [uppercase ‘S’ into a duck](http://www.flickr.com/photos/jillklausen/9620357073/in/photostream).

Back on topic …

[Police Chief Mark Kessler Predicts Next American Revolution If ‘Libtards,’ Feds Try To Silence Him](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/police-chief-mark-kessler-predicts-next-american-revolution-if-libtards-feds-try-to-silence-him.php)

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> This week, Kessler posted another potty-mouthed video in which he displayed paper targets with scary-looking clowns on them, dubbed “Eric” and “Danny.” Those happen to be the first names of Council President Daniel Malloy and Vice President Eric Boxer, whom he has attacked on his website.
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> Patting an assault rifle, Kessler said, “This is the friend that Eric’s going to meet today.” After firing a volley at the target, he said, “Eric got a couple rounds to the head.”

What a lovely guy.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10465 "2013-08-29T16:15:35Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> The term “cursive” is not the name of a specific script. What was taught as cursive in schools was a very bad script loopy called [D’Nealian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D'Nealian).

What color dragon does he ride? 😃

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10466 "2013-08-29T16:20:11Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> [Steve King: Unemployed people are like kids trying to eat without doing chores.](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/28/steve-king-unemployed-people-are-like-kids-trying-to-eat-without-doing-chores/)

I get what he’s saying. We should let kids starve to death…

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10467 "2013-08-29T17:00:11Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> I get what he’s saying. We should let kids starve to death…

Exactly. Human beings don’t deserve food unless they TOIL for it, dammit.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10468 "2013-08-29T17:20:05Z")

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Fucking Oliver Twist, with his fucking “Please, sir, may I have some more?”

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**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10469 "2013-08-29T18:19:29Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> I love how he has high school kids count as unemployed at one end and the possibly retired(or disabled) at the other to boost his numbers.
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> Guess in his world you don’t need to be educated past the third grade before picking up the slack. And then die at your post decades later.

Well, duh - how is Little Cletus supposed to work with those pesky child labor laws…

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10470 "2013-08-29T18:38:58Z")

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Talk about decreasing the surplus population …

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10471 "2013-08-30T02:23:41Z")

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[A senator who’s in favor of arming teachers kinda shot a teacher.](http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/senator-who-advocates-arming-teachers-accidentally-shoots-teacher-rubber-bullet)

It was a rubber bullet, so it’s ok to point and laugh.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10472 "2013-08-30T05:12:14Z")

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No sweat, everybody knows how much Republican love teachers. Not a prob.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10473 "2013-08-30T15:54:19Z")

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The true story is a bit different than one might think from the Blurb included in the link bup put out, although it actually better illustrates why arming teachers is a stupid idea  
It wasn’t a “gun went off” type accident, instead he was involved in a simulation of a school shooting in which some of the actors were playing armed teachers and some were playing shooters, and he mistook one for the other.

[http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/08/jeremy\_hutchinson\_arkansas\_shooting.php](http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/08/jeremy_hutchinson_arkansas_shooting.php)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10474 "2013-08-30T16:33:57Z")

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[Knox County, Tennesee, Sheriff Jimmy “J.J.” Jones is ready to stack undocumented immigrants in jail “like cordwood.”](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/22/immigrants-cordwood-jj-jones_n_3795634.html?utm_hp_ref=politics)

(The story does not say whether Sheriff Jones is D or R – but we all know which party this kind of thing plays to.)

> [@](#):
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> “If need be, I will stack these violators like cordwood in the Knox County Jail until the appropriate federal agency responds,” Knox County Sheriff Jimmy “J.J.” Jones said in a statement on Wednesday.
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> Jones had applied for the controversial 287(g) program, which trains local police deputies to check the immigration status of people who are arrested and enforce federal immigration laws when warranted. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement told Jones that due to budget constraints, it didn’t have the resources to train new officers in the program.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10475 "2013-08-30T16:38:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Buck Godot]  
The true story is a bit different than one might think from the Blurb included in the link bup put out, although it actually better illustrates why arming teachers is a stupid idea  
It wasn’t a “gun went off” type accident, instead he was involved in a simulation of a school shooting in which some of the actors were playing armed teachers and some were playing shooters, and he mistook one for the other.

[http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem](http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem)…s\_shooting.php  
[/QUOTE]  
That didn’t help.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10476 "2013-08-30T16:57:14Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Knox County, Tennesee, Sheriff Jimmy “J.J.” Jones is ready to stack undocumented immigrants in jail “like cordwood.”](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/22/immigrants-cordwood-jj-jones_n_3795634.html?utm_hp_ref=politics)  
> …

That’s a disturbingly Holocaust-y mental image …

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10477 "2013-08-30T17:45:03Z")

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> **[Republican lawmaker says he serves God, not his constituents](https://www.salon.com/2013/08/29/arkansas_lawmaker_says_he_serves_god_not_his_constituents/)**
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> "There's only one vote that matters and that's when I stand before the Lord," said state Sen. Jason Rapert

Arkansas State Senator Jason Rapert says: “There’s only one vote that matters and that’s when I stand before the Lord”.

and

He went on to remark that the men and women who protested Texas’ sweeping new abortion restrictions at the state Capitol are basically demons from hell. “I’ve never had a glimpse of Hell or heard a real demon,” he said, “but I believe that must be what they sound like. It’s spiritual warfare.”

Of course R.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10478 "2013-08-30T17:47:06Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> That’s a disturbingly Holocaust-y mental image …

A quick Google count on the literal string “stacked like cordwood” shows ~190,000 hits. The phrase “bodies stacked like cordwood”, on the other hand, returns 99,000 hits. 52%. While not a scientific survey, it does rather suggest that over half of all online references to stacking things like cordwood are talking about corpses.

I seriously doubt that even the idiot sheriff in question was unaware of that connotation, so I must presume that he _wanted_ that particular image.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10479 "2013-08-30T17:55:05Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Knox County, Tennesee, Sheriff Jimmy “J.J.” Jones is ready to stack undocumented immigrants in jail “like cordwood.”](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/22/immigrants-cordwood-jj-jones_n_3795634.html?utm_hp_ref=politics)
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> (The story does not say whether Sheriff Jones is D or R – but we all know which party this kind of thing plays to.)

No one was in doubt, but for the record:

[QUOTE=[http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2010/may/05/jones-will-be-back-as-sheriff/](http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2010/may/05/jones-will-be-back-as-sheriff/)]  
Knox County Sheriff Jimmy ‘J.J.’ Jones and County Clerk Foster Arnett Jr. were all smiles during the Republican election party at the Crowne Plaza Tuesday, May 4, 2010…  
Jones, 51, received 72 percent of the vote, according to unofficial returns, in the GOP primary race. And without a Democratic challenger to face in the August general election, Jones’ Tuesday night win cemented his re-election.  
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[QUOTE=[http://www.brianhornback.com/?cat=52&paged=5](http://www.brianhornback.com/?cat=52&paged=5)]  
October 9, 2007 in Knox County GOP

Last evening, the West Knox Republican Club meet with a typical standing room only crowd at the Cooper Cellar located on Kingston Pike near West Town Mall. Republican candidate for Knox County Sheriff Jimmy J.J. Jones was the speaker.  
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**Author:** ![sylmar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sylmar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylmar)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10480 "2013-08-30T18:32:37Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> That didn’t help.

Sure it did.

Sen. Hutchinson was just demonstrating how to address the problem of teacher’s compensation from the other end of the equation. If you can’t cut their pay, you can at least thin the population.

“Party of Stupid” is starting to seem to have been a gross understatement…

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