# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10581 "2013-09-10T16:47:54Z")

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> Bachmann: Republicans can beat Hillary Clinton ‘if we cry out to God’

How much you wanna bet she heard her husband crying out “Oh God! Oh God!” in the spare bedroom with the pool boy, and his excuse was that they were praying that Hillary loses?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10582 "2013-09-10T16:57:35Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Only because I expect this thread to house everything that’s stupid and Republican, for one-stop shopping:
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> [Dana Perino says if you don’t like “under God” in the Pledge, GTFO (of the country).](http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/09/fox-news-host-atheists-dont-have-to-live-here/?hpt=hp_t3)
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> I guess she’s never gotten to the part just after “under God” where it talks about liberty and justice for all.

Nice response from David Silverman in the article:

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> David Silverman, president of the American Atheists, called Perino’s comments “bigotry.”
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> “I, for one, am tired of those Christians, like Ms. Perino, who think that equality is somehow un-American,” Silverman said. “If Ms. Perino doesn’t like being only equal, it is she who will have to leave America to some other country that doesn’t value religious liberty.”

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10583 "2013-09-10T17:40:52Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> [http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/09/bachmann-republicans-can-beat-hillary-clinton-if-we-cry-out-to-god/](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/09/bachmann-republicans-can-beat-hillary-clinton-if-we-cry-out-to-god/)
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> **Bachmann: Republicans can beat Hillary Clinton ‘if we cry out to God’**

I still find it humorous that members of the party of god are so filled with hatred of others and against anything benefitting anyone other than themselves.

From the same article:

> [@Michele Bachmann](#):
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> I’ve been shocked and appalled by the conservatives who have gotten on board this train of amnesty for illegal aliens. I’ve been absolutely floored.

How very Christian of you, you evil witch.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10584 "2013-09-10T17:49:08Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> I still find it humorous that members of the party of god are so filled with hatred of others and against anything benefitting anyone other than themselves.
> 
> From the same article:  
> How very Christian of you, you evil witch.

But is she wrong in her strategic reasoning?

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> Later in the interview, Bachmann drew a parallel between the U.S. backing Israel against a nuclear strike by Iran and her party holding firm against immigration reform, calling it “a political suicide journey” for Republicans who support a path to citizenship for the country’s 11 million or so undocumented immigrants.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10585 "2013-09-10T19:47:45Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Sometimes the answer is “no”, or so I have been told…

Yeah, I’ve been told Hillary has been known to ride in chariots of iron, so it’s looking grim on this one, I’ll be honest.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10586 "2013-09-10T21:13:16Z")

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> [@yanceylebeef](#):
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> I really can’t think of anything snarky to say about[this…](http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/09/09/20402828-far-right-lawmakers-freelance-in-egypt?lite)
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> But could you imagine for a moment the hell that would be unleashed if Democratic lawmakers did this during a Republican administration?

Oh, but there are things you can say about it. Have a look at Sept 9 Rachel Maddow show highlighting this excursion into foreign policy:

> **[Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC | Watch Rachel Maddow Live](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show)**
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> More about the MSNBC Rachel Maddow Show airing weeknights at 9 PM. Watch Rachel Maddow tonight or online with updated video & episodes at MSNBC.

From the transcript:

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> MADDOW: Allow me to introduce you to United States Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, who’s a member of the United States Congress from the United States.  
> (tape)  
> REP. MICHELE BACHMANN(R), MINNESOTA: My name is Michele Bachmann. I’m a member of the United States Congress from the United States of America. I want to assure the people of Egypt that I as a member of Congress will stand strong in support of continuing military support for – United States support financially to stand for the military in Egypt. We’ve seen the threat that the Muslim Brotherhood has posed around the world. We stand against this great evil. We are not for them. We remember who caused 9/11 in America. We remember who it was that killed 3,000 brave Americans.  
> (end tape)  
> MADDOW: No, you don’t remember, because the Muslim Brotherhood is actually a thing. It’s not just a term for guys who are Muslims who maybe have siblings. Muslim Brotherhood’s a thing in Egypt, a real thing, and members of the United States Congress, from the United States of America, going to Egypt and telling Egypt that as members of the U.S. Congress, you think that it was the Muslim Brotherhood that did 9/11? Oh, excuse me, 911? That’s amazing, but that happened in Egypt. Republicans Michele Bachmann, Steve King and Louie Gohmert, “A,” have passports, and “B,” used them this weekend to go to Egypt to praise the military coup there and to tell the Egyptian people that the Muslim Brotherhood did 9/11. Congressman Gohmert told the Egyptian generals that when he looks at them, he thinks of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine. One political scientist who studies Egypt and the Muslim Brotherhood in particular told " The New York Times" about this trip today that, quote, “Mr. Gohmert and Mr. King and Ms. Bachmann’s visit to Egypt was, quote, ‘like a ’ Saturday Night Live’ skit, unbelievable, ludicrous, almost comic if it wasn’t so painful’.”

That was kinda cruel. I mean about SNL.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10587 "2013-09-10T21:24:03Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Yeah, I’ve been told Hillary has been known to ride in chariots of iron, so it’s looking grim on this one, I’ll be honest.

. . . and her ovaries are as globes of brass.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10588 "2013-09-11T02:03:50Z")

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> [@yanceylebeef](#):
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> I really can’t think of anything snarky to say about[this…](http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/09/09/20402828-far-right-lawmakers-freelance-in-egypt?lite)
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> But could you imagine for a moment the hell that would be unleashed if Democratic lawmakers did this during a Republican administration?

The very fact of a Republican administration would be such hell in and of itself that the backlash hell you describe would be lost in the noise…

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10589 "2013-09-11T14:47:08Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> At least she understand the GOP needs to repent; but she is probably thinking of the wrong sins.

I think shes right in this sentence fragment.

[QUOTE=Bachmann]  
we have no idea what the Lord God will do for us in 2016.  
[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10590 "2013-09-11T16:10:36Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Oh, but there are things you can say about it. Have a look at Sept 9 Rachel Maddow show highlighting this excursion into foreign policy:
> 
> [Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC | Watch Rachel Maddow Live](http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26315908/#52967739)

I’m genuinely curious – to what degree are Congress critters allowed to go on junkets overseas and make pronouncements on foreign policy? That seems like the province of the State department. So when Bachmann, say, implies that the official US policy is to blame the Muslim Brotherhood for 9/11 and we support the overthrow of the government in Egypt, and it turns out that this is not the official US policy – what’s the response? Does she get a very nasty phone call from John Kerry? The Speaker of the House? If it leads to an international incident or some Benghazi-like repercussions, could she be censured by the House?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10591 "2013-09-11T17:08:05Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> I’m genuinely curious – to what degree are Congress critters allowed to go on junkets overseas and make pronouncements on foreign policy? That seems like the province of the State department. So when Bachmann, say, implies that the official US policy is to blame the Muslim Brotherhood for 9/11 and we support the overthrow of the government in Egypt, and it turns out that this is not the official US policy – what’s the response? Does she get a very nasty phone call from John Kerry? The Speaker of the House? If it leads to an international incident or some Benghazi-like repercussions, could she be censured by the House?

There is no restriction on where members of Congress can go or what they can say to whom, aside from the same laws that apply to everyone else. Indeed, they get immunity from anything arising from anything they say on the floor of the House or Senate.

The House of Representatives can decide for itself when or why to censure a member, but it has not done so very often. Theoretically, they could, but u could think they’d be reluctant to censure a member for doing what they might themselves sometimes do.

The secretary of state could certainly write a nasty letter to a member of Congress, but it would have no legal consequence. Congress is equal to the president, so the secretary of state is below Congress.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10592 "2013-09-11T17:09:49Z")

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She can be censured by the House for any reason. There are minimal statutory or Constitutional limitations on the internal processes of the House and Senate. Having said that, negotiation by unauthorized persons (the POTUS or his delegates) with foreign governments is a criminal violation of the Logan Act.

Speaking of which, Representative Steve King is in danger of censure by Representative Steve King, who has made his opposition to this sort of activity very clear:

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> In a “Dear Colleague” letter released earlier today, King said Pelosi had overstepped her constitutional role as Speaker when she traveled to Syria in April.
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> “Taking her cue from the Iraq Study Group’s recommendation that the U.S. enter into talks with Syria to forge a new way forward in Iraq, Speaker Pelosi decided to ignore the requests of the President that she refrain from traveling to the terrorist state,” the letter said.  
> King told The Hill that he believed Pelosi was in violation of the Logan Act, a 1799 law signed by President John Adams that prohibits unauthorized U.S. citizens from interfering with relations between the United States and foreign governments.
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> “I was one of the members of Congress that was incensed the Speaker had taken it upon herself to conduct foreign policy,” he said. “It was a blatant violation of the Logan Act.”
> 
> Read more: [http://thehill.com/homenews/news/12355-house-republican-wants-to-restrict-pelosis-travel#ixzz2ebZOwbBH](http://thehill.com/homenews/news/12355-house-republican-wants-to-restrict-pelosis-travel#ixzz2ebZOwbBH)

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10593 "2013-09-11T18:21:07Z")

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Steve King is not going to like it when he finds out what Steve King has been up to…

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10594 "2013-09-11T18:36:47Z")

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Fortunately, IOKIYAR…

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10595 "2013-09-11T18:42:16Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Steve King is not going to like it when he finds out what Steve King has been up to…

Throw Steve King and Steve King into the inter-universe magnetic corridor, blow up their ship, and they shall trouble us no more.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10596 "2013-09-12T04:18:25Z")

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I’m guessing that the Texas State Board of Education is either entirely or majority Republican.

[Seems they’re back to trying to force text book publishers into including creationism in the science texts again.](http://deadstate.org/texas-state-board-of-education-creation-science-should-be-included-in-biology-textbooks/)

'scuse me. It’s not the BoE doing this. It’s their reviewers.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10597 "2013-09-12T13:22:26Z")

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“As an educator, parent, and grandparent, I feel very firmly that ‘creation science’ based on Biblical principles should be incorporated into every Biology book that is up for adoption.”

The brazen stupidity here is almost admirable.

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10598 "2013-09-12T14:23:07Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “As an educator, parent, and grandparent, I feel very firmly that ‘creation science’ based on Biblical principles should be incorporated into every Biology book that is up for adoption.”

A misplaced quote there. Should be creation ‘science’…

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10599 "2013-09-12T14:43:37Z")

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Perhaps. I don’t generally edit quotes to reflect my personal feelings, however.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/10600 "2013-09-12T15:07:47Z")

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Ted Cruz thinks we [“need 100 more like Jesse Helms”](http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/09/ted-cruz-we-need-100-more-jesse-helms) in the U.S. Senate.

Well, at least Cruz wouldn’t have a seat anymore.

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