# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11241 "2013-10-17T03:27:23Z")

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> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#):
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> Anyway, I realize the reason Newt was even blathering on CNN was because he has a show there now (the new Crossfire!), but why a discredited Representative/husband/general human being even has a public forum to keep talking … I just don’t even … and they call CNN part of the _liberal_ media? It is to laugh, if it weren’t so very, very sad.

Ostensibly he is qualified because he has experience (1995 and 1996) in shutting down the government over medicare/health. The reality is that much of the media is just a pandering freak show.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11242 "2013-10-17T04:24:40Z")

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But what _gravita_ does Newt Gangrene have that Kim Kardashian does not?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11243 "2013-10-17T07:35:32Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> But what _gravita_ does Newt Gangrene have that Kim Kardashian does not?

Bigger boobs?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11244 "2013-10-17T09:19:44Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I’m willing to bet that their Corporate Overlords have laid down the law on the Pubbies: Cut this shit out, it’s bad for business! Any serious attempt to repeat this cycle will result in a smack-down. No, I think they’ll use different tactics next time.

I’ve read that the Chamber of Commerce had this as a key “Yes” vote and Heritage Action as a key “No” vote. What’s an honest, order-following, line-toeing Republican to do?

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11245 "2013-10-17T09:29:55Z")

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More mass?

Christ, I don’t know what to say. At this point, my contempt for FOX is beyond the pale. I really feel like everyone who voted for any member of the current TEA Party caucus could die in a freak “Being retarded or evil” accident. And every single FOX contributor die horribly in a freak “Being incredibly evil” accident. -.- They’re lying in obscenely copious ways, and their lies just lead to more fucking retards like Magellan01 or Terr who misunderstand the issue, who support the republicans in taking the country hostage, and who don’t understand ANYTHING, in turn hurting America and the rest of the world. Seriously. All of these people need to go fucking die in a fire. I’m just done. My patience is _done_ with their bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11246 "2013-10-17T14:02:33Z")

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> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> It’s like the author put a slew of demonstratively wrong things on a dartboard and threw 100 darts. This is why Fox News is an echo chamber. This is why Fox News viewers constantly poll to be far more uninformed and misinformed on matters of current political events than the people who get their news from anywhere else, a comedy network or even nowhere else.

I particularly like this part:

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> The ethnic breakdown of the 2012 election results indicate Obama’s victory was much more the result of Governor Romney’s inability to appeal to Latino and Asian voters.

Huh. So when white people vote, they are expressing their political beliefs and considered views on the issues, but when Latinos and Asians vote, we’re just likability indicators? It may surprise you to hear this, Mr. Morici, but Latinos and Asians are also subject to the Affordable Care Act and we rather like it. We’re not so fond of casual racism (or perhaps mere casual idiocy) of the sort you seem to be expressing here.

I’m so pissed off I actually signed up for a Fox News account to comment on the article.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11247 "2013-10-17T14:14:28Z")

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It was a totally racist thing to say. The author has a Twitter account too.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11248 "2013-10-17T14:19:03Z")

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> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> I came across [this](http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/16/obamas-victory-on-debt-ceiling-comes-at-terrible-price/) accidentally while looking up details on the final agreement in the Senate. Reading it makes my head hurt:
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> > [@](#):
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> > Poll after poll – at the time the ACA was passed, during the election and now – revealed the majority of Americans don’t like the law and want it substantially revised or repealed.

But polls also show that at least half those who don’t like the ACA don’t like it because it does not go far **enough** and they want a public option or Canuckistani-style singler-payer or something.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11249 "2013-10-17T14:32:25Z")

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[Ted Cruz “video bombs” Mitch McConnell’s speech on the budget deal.](http://americablog.com/2013/10/gops-ted-cruz-interrupts-news-coverage-mcconnell-big-speech-speech-video.html)

[What’s more:](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cruz-effort-to-defund-obamacare-incredible-victory)

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> Cruz told conservative talk show host Mark Levin that Republican senators had been “firing their cannons” at the House Republican caucus and likened the Senate GOP to an “air force bombing our own troops.”
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> \<snip\>
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> Ultimately, Cruz said that his effort to defund Obamacare, which died in the Senate Wednesday night, was not a failure.
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> “It was an incredible victory,” Cruz said.

Incredible. Just incredible.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11250 "2013-10-17T14:33:14Z")

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> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> It was a totally racist thing to say. The author has a Twitter account too.

I don’t, though. It won’t surprise you to hear that my comment was deleted.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11251 "2013-10-17T14:34:38Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Incredible. Just incredible.

Winning!

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11252 "2013-10-17T14:47:37Z")

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This completely pointless shutdown has [cost the economy $24 billion.](http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/10/the-costs-of-the-government-shutdown/) Since 2009, fiscal policy uncertainty and discretionary spending reductions have [hindered annual GDP growth and increased unemployment.](http://www.macroadvisers.com/2013/10/the-cost-of-crisis-driven-fiscal-policy/) But hey, I’m sure Ted Cruz and Heritage Action got great new leads on their mailing lists!

Since we seem so intent on emulating the late Roman republic, perhaps a populist demagogue could organize a mob to throw rotten garbage at Ted Cruz every time he appears in public.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11253 "2013-10-17T14:56:04Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Ted Cruz “video bombs” Mitch McConnell’s speech on the budget deal.](http://americablog.com/2013/10/gops-ted-cruz-interrupts-news-coverage-mcconnell-big-speech-speech-video.html)
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> [What’s more:](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cruz-effort-to-defund-obamacare-incredible-victory)
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> > [@](#):
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> > Cruz told conservative talk show host Mark Levin that Republican senators had been “firing their cannons” at the House Republican caucus and likened the Senate GOP to an “air force bombing our own troops.”
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> > \<snip\>
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> > Ultimately, Cruz said that his effort to defund Obamacare, which died in the Senate Wednesday night, was not a failure.
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> “It was an incredible victory,” Cruz said.
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> Incredible. Just incredible.

Part of the Japanese Midway operation in WWII was a diversionary attack on the Aleutians (partly to seize Kiska and Attu, but primarily to draw the US Pacific Fleet north so it wouldn’t be in a position to oppose the Midway invasion). After the IJN had its ass handed to it, one commentator noted that the “stunning success” in the Aleutians was made possible by the “diversionary attack” on Midway.

I see that commentator’s spirit lives on. With one exception: I can’t see where Cruz seized any ground _vis-à-vis_ Obamacare.

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**Author:** ![TheSeaOtter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ed655f/32.png) [@TheSeaOtter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSeaOtter)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11254 "2013-10-17T15:45:03Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Since we seem so intent on emulating the late Roman republic, perhaps a populist demagogue could organize a mob to throw rotten garbage at Ted Cruz every time he appears in public.

This is fantastic, and I’m stealing it. Muhahaha.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11255 "2013-10-17T16:18:29Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Part of the Japanese Midway operation in WWII was a diversionary attack on the Aleutians (partly to seize Kiska and Attu, but primarily to draw the US Pacific Fleet north so it wouldn’t be in a position to oppose the Midway invasion). After the IJN had its ass handed to it, one commentator noted that the “stunning success” in the Aleutians was made possible by the “diversionary attack” on Midway.
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> I see that commentator’s spirit lives on. With one exception: I can’t see where Cruz seized any ground _vis-à-vis_ Obamacare.

And we’ve had a number of comparisons in this very thread of the GOP leaders to ‘Bhagdad Bob’.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11256 "2013-10-17T17:04:50Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> And we’ve had a number of comparisons in this very thread of the GOP leaders to ‘Bhagdad Bob’.

‘Calgary Cruz’: The Teabaggers’ version of ‘Baghdad Bob’

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11257 "2013-10-17T18:12:35Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> ‘Calgary Cruz’: The Teabaggers’ version of ‘Baghdad Bob’

Cowtown Ted or Cowtown Cruz would work better.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11258 "2013-10-17T18:15:31Z")

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> [@detop](#):
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> Cowtown Ted or Cowtown Cruz would work better.

Except that we should point out that Cruz is ‘not really American’. 😛

(Note: I made a passing remark about Cruz having been born in Canada to my oldest ‘friend’. He still believes Obama was born in Kenya. :rolleyes: )

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11259 "2013-10-17T19:12:19Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Except that we should point out that Cruz is ‘not really American’. 😛
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> (Note: I made a passing remark about Cruz having been born in Canada to my oldest ‘friend’. He still believes Obama was born in Kenya. :rolleyes: )

Cowtown is **also** a nickname for Calgary. It would associate him both with Alberta and Tejas.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11260 "2013-10-17T19:14:51Z")

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> [@detop](#):
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> Cowtown is **also** a nickname for Calgary. It would associate him both with Alberta and Tejas.

Aha!

IANA Canadian. Heck the Canadian border is four _miles_ away!

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