# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11521 "2013-10-29T20:27:35Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Or, you know, maybe I disagree with you. Does it advance your argument to try to say that I am “hysterical”?

“Hysterical” in messageboardspeak generally just means “you used a four-letter word in your post and you have a username indicating feminine gender”. It usually has no bearing on the actual content or tone of the post in question.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11522 "2013-10-29T20:28:14Z")

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Don’t forget to mention my hysteria and bias some more. That was the part that really made you appear smart.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11523 "2013-10-29T20:32:46Z")

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> [@Babyeater Bohemoth](#):
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> I really don’t see what point you’re trying to make here, **js**. Do you think that Assembleyman Wheeler was advocating in favor of slavery?

I think he was advocating for voting for _anything_ that will save his own worthless political ass. Up to and including slavery. And probably beyond.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11524 "2013-10-29T20:34:24Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> “Hysterical” in messageboardspeak generally just means “you used a four-letter word in your post and you have a username indicating feminine gender”. It usually has no bearing on the actual content or tone of the post in question.

Yeah, I pretty much have that impression right now.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11525 "2013-10-29T20:36:05Z")

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> [@Babyeater Bohemoth](#):
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> Or is it just that, to you, the subject of slavery is so evil that you think that any use of it that doesn’t include a declaration of how evil and distasteful it is automatically means that the person using it must wish for slavery to once again be the law of the land? Even if the context of the discussion and the acknowledgement that it was a poor analogy contradict that? Even after an apology? […]
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> Ah, then it seems I have it right. The subject is so distasteful to you that it makes you unable to react in any way other than with revulsion.

**Babyeater** , quit trying to flirt. It was very clear that **jsgoddess** meant merely that no decent person would _even hypothetically_ agree to **SUPPORT** reinstituting slavery. Not that no decent person would even **mention** slavery in any context without vehemently condemning it.

Your feigned cluelessness about the obvious difference between these two positions is getting tiresome. If you really want to keep on trying to charm **jsgoddess** with your saucy negging, pick a different topic.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11526 "2013-10-29T20:39:39Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Don’t forget to mention my hysteria and bias some more. That was the part that really made you appear smart.

Your post was the textual equivalent of someone ranting while waving their arms, and yes, it did include two "fuck"s and a couple of dismissive "golly"s. So yeah, IMO you were nearly hysterical. Granted, it was the online version, but still, if the foo shits, wear it.

And you’ve confirmed that the subject of slavery is so distasteful to you that any use of it that doesn’t include a declaration of how evil it is makes you unable to react in any way other than with revulsion.

That’s bias.

Instead of simply agreeing with me that what the Assembleyman said was a poor analogy, you seek to make him into a slaver, even tho all available evidence that isn’t filtered through your bias doesn’t support that perception.

And now you’ve resorted to deriding my character because I’m pointing out your poor reaction to his poor analogy.

/shrug

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11527 "2013-10-29T20:43:10Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> **Babyeater** , quit trying to flirt. It was very clear that **jsgoddess** meant merely that no decent person would _even hypothetically_ agree to **SUPPORT** reinstituting slavery. Not that no decent person would even **mention** slavery in any context without vehemently condemning it.
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> Your feigned cluelessness about the obvious difference between these two positions is getting tiresome. If you really want to keep on trying to charm **jsgoddess** with your saucy negging, pick a different topic.

Well, I guess it’s the fact that she (and now you) are both saying that there’s no way this Assembleyman can be a decent person.

I say he made a mistake, and I withhold judgement on his character as a whole.

**jsgoddess** and now you have already damned him to hell.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11528 "2013-10-29T20:44:51Z")

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Can I calmly comment that you sound stupid, BB? Just a casual observation offered in passing.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11529 "2013-10-29T20:44:54Z")

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> [@Babyeater Bohemoth](#):
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> I really don’t see what point you’re trying to make here, **js**. Do you think that Assembleyman Wheeler was advocating in favor of slavery?

I think he needs to take a lesson from Burke. See post #11511.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11530 "2013-10-29T20:57:12Z")

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> [@Babyeater Bohemoth](#):
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> [url=[http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_NSA\_SURVEILLANCE\_CONGRESS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-10-29-12-24-31](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NSA_SURVEILLANCE_CONGRESS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-10-29-12-24-31)]  
> A blowhard and an idiot, but at least he’s now realizing it and trying to unmake the mess he helped to create.

Yeah the Repubs are really in a quandary as to what position to take here. On the one hand the like the idea of jack booted thugs trampling civil liberties in the name of security, on the other hand they hate Obama, and the NSA thing is a good way to attack him. The good thing is that we might actually get some decent civil rights legislation out of this.

Its almost like the reverse psychology that jsgoddes suggested in post 11485.

Since he’s a lame duck anyway, perhaps we should encourage further Republican style abuses of power in the Obama administration so we can tie up some more loose ends. Any chance he can be caught gutting the EPA so we can get some stronger environmental regulations?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11531 "2013-10-29T21:12:56Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> I am sorry but I disagree. You don’t make a seemingly pro-slavery remark like that without it being a grain of truth to it.

I guess the question is if instead of asking about slavery blogger Chuck Muth had used the example of legislation confiscating all firearms.

Would Wheeler would still have responded affirmatively?

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11532 "2013-10-29T21:16:15Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Obama: You know, I think we should lower taxes on the 1%.  
> Republicans: NEVER! We must RAISE TAXES on the 1%! We must double them! We must triple them!  
> Obama: Gosh, you’re forcing my hand. How ever will I sleep at night after I sign this bill quadrupling the taxes on the 1%?  
> Republicans: You hate America!  
> Koch Bros.: Um, guys?

Wouldn’t work. Here’s how it would go:

Obama: You know, I think we should lower taxes on the 1%.  
Republicans: Socialist! You don’t want to lower their taxes enough!  
Obama: I was thinking of chopping their taxes in half.  
Republicans: See? Not enough!  
Obama: You know what? Let’s drop their burden to 0. Sound good?  
Republicans: 0? We should be giving them money for all the jobs they create!  
Koch Bros.: ROFL

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11533 "2013-10-29T21:16:47Z")

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> [@Babyeater Bohemoth](#):
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> That’s why you’re coming off as nearly hysterical and completely unwilling to listen to and consider the actual words and context of Assemblyman Wheeler’s comments.
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> Have a nice day.

You’re coming off like an asshole rushing to the defense of someone who said he could be convinced to set his principles aside to vote for slavery if enough of his constituents proved to be disgusting racists.

I mean, what the fuck?

Good day, sir!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11534 "2013-10-29T22:12:25Z")

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[Rand Paul is going to Virginia to urge Libertarians to vote for Ken Cucinelli.](http://vienna.patch.com/groups/elections/p/sen-rand-paul-to-campaign-for-ken-cuccinelli-monday-in-fairfax)

[Because, you know, liberty.](http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017155120)

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11535 "2013-10-29T22:13:56Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> The people have spoken. I am their leader; I must follow them.

There go my people. I must find out where they are headed, so I can lead them.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11536 "2013-10-29T22:21:32Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Rand Paul is going to Virginia to urge Libertarians to vote for Ken Cucinelli.](http://vienna.patch.com/groups/elections/p/sen-rand-paul-to-campaign-for-ken-cuccinelli-monday-in-fairfax)
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> [Because, you know, liberty.](http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017155120)

Rand Paul is about as Libertarian in fact as this pimple on my left butt cheek.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11537 "2013-10-29T22:25:27Z")

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> [@Knorf of the Damned](#):
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> Rand Paul is about as Libertarian in fact as this pimple on my left butt cheek.

As opposed to the one on your right cheek?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11538 "2013-10-29T23:29:02Z")

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Marco Rubio (R-FL) seems to have been inspired by Ted Cruz’ minibuster of his own bill. Rubio is not only [blocking his own immigration bill](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/06/06/why-marco-rubio-is-against-his-own-immigration-bill-and-what-it-means/) but [holding up his own judicial nominee](http://www.publicnewsservice.org/2013-10-29/civil-rights/vacant-judgeships-long-wait-for-florida-scales-of-justice/a35250-1).

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**Author:** ![computergeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@computergeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/computergeek)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11539 "2013-10-29T23:58:18Z")

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That assemblyman is a nitwit. What he seemed to be saying is that he will do whatever his constituents want, no matter how bad and even if the guy thinks it’s not the right thing for that area. It’s likely he wasn’t thinking through the ramifications of that stand, but it’s an absurd stand and the slavery question showed that (and he ran right into it and screwed it up by standing by his position).

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**Author:** ![sylmar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sylmar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylmar)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/11540 "2013-10-30T01:06:59Z")

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> [@computergeek](#):
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> That assemblyman is a nitwit. What he seemed to be saying is that he will do whatever his constituents want, no matter how bad and even if the guy thinks it’s not the right thing for that area. It’s likely he wasn’t thinking through the ramifications of that stand, but it’s an absurd stand and the slavery question showed that (and he ran right into it and screwed it up by standing by his position).

Geesh. A Republican finally floats an idea for a jobs program and all the Dems want to do is tear him down for it… 😉

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