# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12161 "2013-12-20T04:51:49Z")

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“Now, come on, boys! Where’s your spirit? I don’t hear no singin’. When you was slaves, you sang like birds. Go on, how ‘bout a good ol’ nigger work song?”

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12162 "2013-12-20T06:42:32Z")

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> [@Manduck](#):
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> Hm, where did the blues come from, again?

Dan Aykroyd and Belushi, wasn’t it ?

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12163 "2013-12-20T15:45:51Z")

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Yeah, it’s pretty amazing that lots of rightie politicians are rushing to his defense, in a calculated move to appeal to anti-gay people, without considering they’re also supporting openly racist views.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12164 "2013-12-20T15:49:19Z")

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> I agree that Jindal and Cruz are clowns, and that what A&E chooses to air is not a First Amendment issue, but you’ve fallen far short of connecting the dots. Cruz didn’t even mention the First Amendment in the article you cited, and Jindal at most drew an analogy to it, but didn’t claim that A&E violated it.

It’s pretty goofy for Ted Cruz to be complaining about the mainstream media “acting like thought police” when the whole thing was started by _an interview published in GQ magazine_.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12165 "2013-12-20T16:49:28Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> It’s pretty goofy for Ted Cruz to be complaining about the mainstream media “acting like thought police” when the whole thing was started by _an interview published in GQ magazine_.

Well, it’s all Robertson’s own fault, then! He might as well have given an interview to _The Daily Worker!_

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12166 "2013-12-20T17:59:34Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> “Now, come on, boys! Where’s your spirit? I don’t hear no singin’. When you was slaves, you sang like birds. Go on, how ‘bout a good ol’ nigger work song?”

I, get no kick, from McCain,  
mere Jindal, doesn’t thrill me at all.  
So tell me, why should it be true,  
That I get sick from Ted Cruz?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12167 "2013-12-20T18:29:54Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> I, get no kick, from McCain,  
> mere Jindal, doesn’t thrill me at all.  
> So tell me, why should it be true,  
> That I get sick from Ted Cruz?

Mine! _\<yoink\>_

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12168 "2013-12-20T19:35:29Z")

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[GOP congressional candidate compares Phil Robertson to Rosa Parks.](http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2013/12/20/oh-jesus-christ-on-a-soda-cracker-phil-robertson-compared-to-rosa-parks/)

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> “In December 1955, Rosa Parks took a stand against an unjust societal persecution of black people, and in December 2013, Robertson took a stand against persecution of Christians,” [Ian] Bayne said in an email to supporters.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12169 "2013-12-20T19:43:02Z")

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Well \*that \*would have been a good example for **ITR** ’s [GD thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=710203)

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12170 "2013-12-20T21:02:40Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [GOP congressional candidate compares Phil Robertson to Rosa Parks.](http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2013/12/20/oh-jesus-christ-on-a-soda-cracker-phil-robertson-compared-to-rosa-parks/)

Good lord! I’d really like to know what laws are currently in place that say it’s okay for non Christians to do X but it’s NOT okay for Christians to do the exact same thing?

I mean seriously, it’s perfectly okay for an employer to fire you if you’re damaging their brand. Which is exactly what happened with Robertson.  
Nobody’s civil rights have been infringed upon. He’s still perfectly welcome to say all the dumb shit he wants. Just like we’re perfectly welcome to call him on when he does.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12171 "2013-12-20T21:42:37Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Yeah, it’s pretty amazing that lots of rightie politicians are rushing to his defense, in a calculated move to appeal to anti-gay people, without considering they’re also supporting openly racist views.

Oh they are considering racist views allright; it’s a bonus appeal to another section of their base. Kind of win-win, kill two birds with one stone message. Only thing missing is working “Obamacare” into the situation though that’s probably been done as well.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12172 "2013-12-20T21:51:56Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Oh they are considering racist views allright; it’s a bonus appeal to another section of their base. Kind of win-win, kill two birds with one stone message. Only thing missing is working “Obamacare” into the situation though that’s probably been done as well.

A smart cynical GOP’er likes to spew racism through a dog-whistle, thankyouverymuch.

“I never saw any problems during the Jim Crow era” is like speaking through an amp.

I think Jindal is going to regret his association with this mess.

Palin, of course, will double down and never understand what’s wrong with this picture.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12173 "2013-12-20T22:23:37Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> A smart cynical GOP’er likes to spew racism through a dog-whistle, thankyouverymuch.
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> “I never saw any problems during the Jim Crow era” is like speaking through an amp.

As a liberal who grew up in the South, I actually understand exactly what he’s trying to say.

There are many places in the South where there was no direct conflict between whites and blacks. In many areas, most of the whites are as poor as the blacks, like he said.

What he’s guilty of is assuming that because he didn’t participate in or see racism means those blacks didn’t experience it. It’s absurd and naive. He also never seemed to figure out why blacks wouldn’t talk about their conflicts with the white world in front of him, a white guy. Duh.

I think this is actually an example of his speaking out of innocent naivete, not racism. Still dumb. He’s old enough to know better, even if he didn’t see it firsthand as he claims.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12174 "2013-12-20T23:00:12Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> I agree that Jindal and Cruz are clowns, and that what A&E chooses to air is not a First Amendment issue, but you’ve fallen far short of connecting the dots. Cruz didn’t even mention the First Amendment in the article you cited, and Jindal at most drew an analogy to it, but didn’t claim that A&E violated it.

Jindal definitely implied First Amendment violations when he used those words. Same with Cruz, he definitely knew what buttons he wanted to push by using the words “free society” and “police censorship”. There are a million proper ways to express disappointment if you believed Robertson shouldn’t be suspended that takes into account the fact that this isn’t a First Amendment issue and not one of them were used by these two.

> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Worse, A&E absolutely does NOT have every right to say they don’t want Christians, Muslims, or skateboarders on their shows. There’s a huge difference between suspending someone for what he says very publicly and prominently in an arranged GQ interview, and suspending someone simply for being a Christian or Muslim.
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> Tell me, do you agree with the wacky right-wingers who would allow any boss to deny any type of health insurance coverage to his employees, based on his own opinions of what is right or moral?

No I don’t and I probably should have phrased it better. I’ll plead emotion on this one because I knew the first things some rabble rousing jackasses were gonna do is to conflate this with free speech and I was too mad to add in the proper caveats

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12175 "2013-12-20T23:57:52Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Oh, different r-word? I must be in the wrong thread.

I think _you’re_ in the right thread.

> [@bup](#):
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> Yeah, it’s pretty amazing that lots of rightie politicians are rushing to his defense, in a calculated move to appeal to anti-gay people, without considering they’re also supporting openly racist views.

Was a time politicians could be openly racist against blacks on the theory that there were more anti-black racist voters than black voters. With the rise of the religious right, some people think a similar principle works today with anti-gay noise.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2013, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12176 "2013-12-21T00:23:38Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> No I don’t and I probably should have phrased it better. I’ll plead emotion on this one because I knew the first things some rabble rousing jackasses were gonna do is to conflate this with free speech and I was too mad to add in the proper caveats

No worries. Although the article you cited wasn’t the best example, I’ve flipped over to Fox News every so often to see what they are saying, and many, many people there are calling it a First Amendment issue, including former lawyers like Greta Van Susteren.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2013, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12177 "2013-12-21T18:40:56Z")

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Megyn Kelly doubles down and says, "Every Significant Historical Figure Has Been White”. Quoted off the air, but with her mic still on. Faux News won’t fire her for this, but if she loses her looks - she’s gone.

> **[Custom Software Solutions for Seamless Medical Device Integration |...](https://www.freewoodpost.com/2013/12/19/megyn-kelly-every-significant-historical-figure-has-been-white/)**
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> She continued stating, “Look, every significant historical figure has been white.”
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> Whitman was understandably shocked and countered with, “What about Gandhi?” Kelley fired back, “He was obviously white. Everyone knows that.” Aidala and Crowley agreed with Megyn’s analysis. Whitman shot back again with a list of influential figures, “Martin Luther King, Mandela, Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman, Cleopatra.” Her response sent Whitman storming out of the studio. “I said significant. None of those people are significant.”

I think Whitman could have mentioned King David, any Egyptian pharaoh or Genghis Khan and she still would have maintained her belief. Are there such things as faith based “facts”?

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2013, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12178 "2013-12-21T18:47:22Z")

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Here’s a good one: Jack Kingston (R-GA) thinks that kids who get free school lunches should be forced to work for them:

> **[Kingston's race to the bottom](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/kingstons-race-the-bottom-msna233911)**
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> In Georgia, Rep. Jack Kingston (R) needs to impress his party's base -- so he wants to make it harder for low-income children to get food.

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> Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) wants kids to learn early in life that there’s no such thing as a free lunch. To make sure they absorb that lesson, he’s proposing that low-income children do some manual labor in exchange for their subsidized meals.
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> On Saturday, Kingston, who is vying to be his party’s Senate nominee next year, spoke at a meeting of the Jackson County Republican Party. He … came out against free lunches, saying that children should have to pay at least a nominal amount or do some work like sweeping cafeteria floors.

His subsequent defense of his stupidity? He never actually said that only “poor kids” should have to pay if they get subsidized lunches.

> **[Kingston: 'I never did say 'poor kids''](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/kingston-i-never-did-say-poor-kids-msna235051)**
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> The congressman who suggested struggling children should pay more for food has a new defense fir his comments. It needs a little work.

At this point, Republicans - at least the elected ones - are pretty much entirely fucking ignorant clowns.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12179 "2013-12-21T18:57:14Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Megyn Kelly doubles down and says, "Every Significant Historical Figure Has Been White”. Quoted off the air, but with her mic still on. Faux News won’t fire her for this, but if she loses her looks - she’s gone.
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> [Custom Software Solutions for Seamless Medical Device Integration | Healthcare IT](http://www.freewoodpost.com/2013/12/19/megyn-kelly-every-significant-historical-figure-has-been-white/)
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> I think Whitman could have mentioned King David, any Egyptian pharaoh or Genghis Khan and she still would have maintained her belief. Are there such things as faith based “facts”?

Turns out [http://www.freewoodpost.com/](http://www.freewoodpost.com/) is a satire site but you had me going for a while.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12180 "2013-12-21T19:04:08Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> I think Whitman could have mentioned King David, any Egyptian pharaoh or Genghis Khan and she still would have maintained her belief. Are there such things as faith based “facts”?

She’s been educated like most Americans. I’ve heard variations of this theme my entire life. During Open House once, my father asked why most of my 10th world history class was devoted to western European history with just side-mentions to other civilization. The teacher’s response was pretty much the same as Megyn Kelly’s. I’m sure Ms. Pinner is a big fan of Fox News.

I once had a college classmate inform me that most people in the world are white, and that Malcolm X was racist for daring to say otherwise. He was a dumbass freshman just as I was, and perhps I should give him a break. But he learned that shit from somewhere. I’m guessing the same place Megyn Kelly learned her “facts”.

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