# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12361 "2014-01-11T05:17:38Z")

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But that could have been a perfectly innocent gesture of simple non-partisan malice!

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12362 "2014-01-11T05:41:52Z")

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Alas for Christie, it’s looking now like malice in blunderland.

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12363 "2014-01-11T14:16:41Z")

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This isn’t quite as ‘stupid’ as the usual GOP silliness, but it does point out the fact that the party of limited and decentralized government is unhappy when they can’t be authoritarian as well.

[Senator Ted Cruz attacks Obama for not locking up marijuana users in Colorado](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/10/senator-ted-cruz-attacks-obama-for-not-locking-up-marijuana-users-in-colorado/)

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12364 "2014-01-11T21:47:23Z")

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> [@Gagundathar](#):
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> This isn’t quite as ‘stupid’ as the usual GOP silliness, but it does point out the fact that the party of limited and decentralized government is unhappy when they can’t be authoritarian as well.

Everyone equivocates like a motherfucker when it comes to “state’s rights,” depending on if they agree with where things are going or not (notice libs are in favor of them now because their pet issues are gaining steam, not so much when it’s the opposite). I’d say this was more of a dickish Republican idea of the day.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12365 "2014-01-12T18:59:13Z")

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> [@Gagundathar](#):
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> This isn’t quite as ‘stupid’ as the usual GOP silliness, but it does point out the fact that the party of limited and decentralized government is unhappy when they can’t be authoritarian as well.
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> [Senator Ted Cruz attacks Obama for not locking up marijuana users in Colorado](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/10/senator-ted-cruz-attacks-obama-for-not-locking-up-marijuana-users-in-colorado/)

It would be . . . highly unusual and novel, for the feds to go around busting people for simple possession. I doubt they even have a procedure for that.

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**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12366 "2014-01-13T13:24:46Z")

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Meet candidate for governor [Larry SECEDE Kilgore](http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2013/12/gop-governor-candidate-sets-aside-opposition-to-gays-for-higher-cause-secession.html/). In previous attempts at gaining office, his platform included the death penalty for gays, public flogging for the use of “vulgar sexual language”, and strict adherence to bible teachings. Now he has changed his middle name to SECEDE and is willing to [set aside](http://www.burntorangereport.com/diary/14518/does-larry-kilgore-still-think-gay-texans-should-be-put-to-death) these concerns and encourage the gays to join his fight for secession.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12367 "2014-01-13T15:06:29Z")

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> [@DrumBum](#):
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> Meet candidate for governor [Larry SECEDE Kilgore](http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2013/12/gop-governor-candidate-sets-aside-opposition-to-gays-for-higher-cause-secession.html/). In previous attempts at gaining office, his platform included the death penalty for gays, public flogging for the use of “vulgar sexual language”, and strict adherence to bible teachings. Now he has changed his middle name to SECEDE and is willing to [set aside](http://www.burntorangereport.com/diary/14518/does-larry-kilgore-still-think-gay-texans-should-be-put-to-death) these concerns and encourage the gays to join his fight for secession.

. . . so that Texas can become an independent republic where gays can be put to death.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12368 "2014-01-13T15:12:21Z")

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But their taxes will be much lower, so it evens out.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12369 "2014-01-13T15:14:12Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Adding to **jayjay** ’s response to your post, I read somewhere on the Internet\* that when people stalled in the massive traffic jams complained to Port Authority cops about it, the cops replied that it was the fault of the Fort Lee mayor. Who might have told them to say that is left as an exercise for the reader.
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> \*No, I’m not going to go back through all the blogthreads I’ve been reading today and find the cite; yes, I am a lazy layabout good-for-nothing.

**ETF**! Where the fuck have you _been_? 😃

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12370 "2014-01-13T16:16:02Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> **ETF**! Where the fuck have you _been_? 😃

Eh, I wandered off and got lost in this big old forest with lions and tigers and bears, oh, my! Then when I was running away from some ugly witch with a crunchy cookie-smelling house I fell down a rabbit hole and things _really_ got weird. :eek:

Oh, and along the way I managed to trade in my old hip for a shiny new bionic one, which did complicate my life for a while there.

But yeh, here I am again. Did you really miss me? Aw, shucks… _digs toe shyly into ground_

🙂

Oh, almost forgot to note, I’m on the verge of passing one of life’s great milestones: Next month I qualify for Medicare! Go me! 😃

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12371 "2014-01-13T16:49:47Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Did you really miss me? Aw, shucks… _digs toe shyly into ground_

Nah. I just wondered where you’d been. 😉 Just kidding! Welcome back, and congrats on the new hip!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12372 "2014-01-13T18:14:59Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Eh, I wandered off and got lost in this big old forest with lions and tigers and bears, oh, my! Then when I was running away from some ugly witch with a crunchy cookie-smelling house I fell down a rabbit hole and things _really_ got weird. :eek:

But what about the Yellow Submarine?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12373 "2014-01-13T18:23:09Z")

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[New dirt on Roger Ailes:](http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/01/12/new-book-reveals-the-real-roger-ailes/197547)

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> For more than a year, Fox News has waged an intense campaign to discredit Gabriel Sherman’s forthcoming biography of network CEO Roger Ailes. A review of the book, which Media Matters obtained in advance of its Tuesday release, reveals that the network was right to be worried.
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> Among other revelations, Sherman reports that Ailes agreed with Glenn Beck’s infamous remark that President Obama has “a deep-seated hatred for white people”; **Ailes thinks Navy SEALs should “have to personally kill an illegal immigrant” as part of their certification;** Ailes allegedly offered an employee a salary increase if she would have sex with him on demand; and Ailes once called a rival executive “a little fucking Jew prick.”
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> The first details from Sherman’s _The Loudest Voice in the Room_ generated serious press attention this week, including the news that Ailes tried to gear Fox’s 2012 coverage to “elect the next president.”

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12374 "2014-01-13T18:47:23Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> But what about the Yellow Submarine?

The Walrus stole it so he could run off with the spoon.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12375 "2014-01-13T18:51:06Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [New dirt on Roger Ailes:](http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/01/12/new-book-reveals-the-real-roger-ailes/197547)

"… including the news that Ailes **tried** to gear Fox’s 2012 coverage to “elect the next president.”

Not a comment on BG, but on the quote.

Bolding and stuff mine. “tried”??? I’d go with “mission accomplished” along with, “brainwashed the whole lot of them to actually believe”.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12376 "2014-01-13T18:52:06Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> "… including the news that Ailes **tried** to gear Fox’s 2012 coverage to “elect the next president.”
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> Not a comment on BG, but on the quote.
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> Bolding and stuff mine. “tried”??? I’d go with “mission accomplished” along with, “brainwashed the whole lot of them to actually believe”.

Well, yes, he did succeed in electing the next president . . . but not, I think the one he wanted . . .

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12377 "2014-01-13T18:55:53Z")

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[Genius plan in Missouri to stop Obamacare!](http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/political-fix/new-attack-on-obamacare-filed-in-missouri-legislature/article_be8817f9-41d0-5eb2-8db9-d09422b7d28d.html) The answer? make it illegal for insurance companies to accept the subsidies!

Genius!

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12378 "2014-01-13T23:55:44Z")

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Welp.

I know I can’t ask for campaign donations on the board, but I think I may run for state legislature and say, “You don’t have to agree with me, because I’m not going to caucus with anybody or get anything done in this kooky state, and I’ll still be a better legislator than these screwballs.”

Seriously? How much wasted effort goes into spiting Obamacare? Who buys this?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12379 "2014-01-14T06:54:16Z")

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Desperation. And it only seems like stupid desperation, it is more likely calculated desperation, the fear and terror of men who have made very comfortable investments, men who were looking forward to years of solid returns.

What’s right about Obamacare is how much it resembles single-payer plans, whats wrong with it is where it doesn’t. And the implementation of Obamacare is what will make that more obvious. Sooner or later, we are going to start asking ourselves why we legislate a profit for health insurance companies, when it is all nothing more than an actuarial calculation. Obamacare blocks the more heinous means by which a health insurance company can squeeze some extra money, so how will HealthPartners outgrow Blue Cross?

Plan A is health insurance that is risk balanced by coverage, the premium reflects the risk, the amount of coverage for that risk, plus the profit. Plan B is risk balanced by coverage, the premium reflects the risk, the amount of coverage for that risk. Period. You don’t need to do the math, your kid can do the arithmetic. Don’t have any kids, a goldfish.

We’re a mite slow, but we will catch on. We don’t need them, we assure them a profit only because they have the political power to demand it, and make it stick. And to keep that from happening, they will grasp any reed however slender that might have even the possibility to make that nightmare go away.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/12380 "2014-01-14T14:34:07Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Desperation. And it only seems like stupid desperation, it is more likely calculated desperation, the fear and terror of men who have made very comfortable investments, men who were looking forward to years of solid returns.
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> What’s right about Obamacare is how much it resembles single-payer plans, whats wrong with it is where it doesn’t. And the implementation of Obamacare is what will make that more obvious. Sooner or later, we are going to start asking ourselves why we legislate a profit for health insurance companies, when it is all nothing more than an actuarial calculation. Obamacare blocks the more heinous means by which a health insurance company can squeeze some extra money, so how will HealthPartners outgrow Blue Cross?
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> Plan A is health insurance that is risk balanced by coverage, the premium reflects the risk, the amount of coverage for that risk, plus the profit. Plan B is risk balanced by coverage, the premium reflects the risk, the amount of coverage for that risk. Period. You don’t need to do the math, your kid can do the arithmetic. Don’t have any kids, a goldfish.
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> We’re a mite slow, but we will catch on. We don’t need them, we assure them a profit only because they have the political power to demand it, and make it stick. And to keep that from happening, they will grasp any reed however slender that might have even the possibility to make that nightmare go away.

True Geometry fact:  
If you place desperation, money and stupidity as points on a plane and then draw lines from them to their common center, the point where they all intersect will be the Republican Party and also the DNC.

This was the real triangulation Bill Clingon was doing during his Presidency. It explains why he signed the repeal of Glass-Stegall into law. You can’t argue with it, it’s rocket math!

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