# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13141 "2014-02-28T22:25:39Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I would love to see one duly constituted religious authority come forward and claim that it’s a sin to serve a cheeseburger to a gay person.

OTOH, it would not be hard to find one to say it’s a sin to eat a cheeseburger.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13142 "2014-02-28T23:23:32Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> I’d really like to know what they would do if it actually got repealed. Would they kick off the 4 million plus people who have already signed on for it?

In a heartbeat. Any respectable Republican voter wouldn’t be caught dead signing up for Obamacare; it’s named after Obama ferchrissakes!

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13143 "2014-02-28T23:48:27Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> I’d really like to know what they would do if it actually got repealed. Would they kick off the 4 million plus people who have already signed on for it?

That’s what I’d like to know.

it’s kind of like that dog who likes to chase cars. What’s that dog gonna do if he ever catches one?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13144 "2014-03-01T00:32:29Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> OTOH, it would not be hard to find one to say it’s a sin to eat a cheeseburger.

Obviously. Deuteronomy 14:21, no mixing meat and dairy !

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13145 "2014-03-01T00:36:21Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> I’d really like to know what they would do if it actually got repealed. Would they kick off the 4 million plus people who have already signed on for it?

Is there any doubt? Those 4 million aren’t millionaires, fetuses, or big businesses. The GOP wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13146 "2014-03-01T03:50:32Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> I’d really like to know what they would do if it actually got repealed. Would they kick off the 4 million plus people who have already signed on for it?

Funny you should ask. I was only listening to Maddow with one ear tonight, but I think I have the essentials right (ETA: I couldn’t resist a few editorial comments of my own, though).

1. A federal law, passed during the Reagan Admin, requires hospital emergency rooms to at least stabilize patients who have bona fide medical emergencies, regardless of their ability to pay. Once they get the baby delivered, or the heart restarted, or the bone set, then they can refuse further treatment. Note that the care is not free — the patients are billed for whatever treatment they receive, although they may not be able to pay the bill. The law mandates that lack of proof of ability to pay does not constitute grounds for refusal of emergency care, but it does not prevent the hospitals from pursuing payment afterward.

2. Several hospitals in rural Georgia are going out of business, blaming the cost of indigent emergency treatment for at least part of their problems. This leaves several counties without adequate facilities, even for those who can pay.

3. Part of the ACA offers to put the indigent on Medicaid, with the Federal government picking up 100% of the cost for the first three years, and 90% after that. So the poor can get preventive and office care that should cut way down on the need for emergency room treatment, and the government will pay for it.

4. Georgia’s governor has turned that offer down, like most deeply red states that think saying no to anything associated with Obama is more important than helping their constituents.

5. BUT, those hippie commie Democrats are WRONG when they say that Republicans offer no alternative. Georgia’s governor DOES have a plan to help those hospitals: repeal the law that requires hospitals to treat medical emergencies. Let the fuckers die.

So the answer is yes, they absolutely would kick those people off.

How the fuck can these people sleep at night?

I also seem to recall that “free” emergency room treatment was Mitt Romney’s solution to health care for the 47%. I guess we missed that boat.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13147 "2014-03-01T03:58:43Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> I’d really like to know what they would do if it actually got repealed. Would they kick off the 4 million plus people who have already signed on for it?

Of course they would. They’re Republicans.

Ah, ninja’d by Tony Sinclair, and the truth. I live in Georgia, I am on Obamacare, and if Nathan Deal, our Governor had any say in the matter, I’d be without health care. But just you wait, he’ll be re-elected. My fellow Georgians are dumb as rocks.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13148 "2014-03-01T04:00:07Z")

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The Republicans have come up with their alternative to the ACA. But it would require a “full time employee” to be one who works 40 hours a week, vs the current 30 hours a week. That means that 1 million people would lose their employer-provided medical insurance. It would also raise the federal budget by $74 million in order to cover those who currently have employer insurance and who will no longer have it.

[http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/02/25/3331421/awkward-gops-health-care-lead-1-milliton-lose-employer-sponsored-insurance/](http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/02/25/3331421/awkward-gops-health-care-lead-1-milliton-lose-employer-sponsored-insurance/)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13149 "2014-03-01T04:59:02Z")

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Perhaps they can avoid that $75 million problem by following the innovative example of that rising star in the Party, Nathan Deal. That’s what the Pubbies need, bold new ideas, thinking outside the coffin.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13150 "2014-03-01T05:46:22Z")

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The Cooch is back, although at least not in elected office. Does it still count?

He and three other 'murrcans have started a law firm that, [for a monthly subscription](http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/cuccinelli-3-others-start-virginia-self-defense-law-firm-defending-gun-rights/2014/02/27/fdce2b8e-9fbd-11e3-b8d8-94577ff66b28_story.html), will defend your Second Amendment rights if you’re facing charges from using a firearm to defend yourself or just feel like packing some heat today.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13151 "2014-03-01T16:03:11Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> Of course they would. They’re Republicans.

That’s what the Republicans would do.

That’s not what the insurance companies would do. What they would do is continue to take premiums from the 4 million people, but rewrite the policies to provide shitty coverage. They don’t leave money on the table.

Instead of gold and silver plans they would offer mud and sand plans.

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13152 "2014-03-02T01:03:34Z")

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Has anyone posted this one yet?

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> If a woman has the right to an abortion, why shouldn’t a man be free to use his superior strength to force himself on a woman? At least the rapist’s pursuit of sexual freedom doesn’t (in most cases) result in anyone’s death.

— State Rep. Lawrence Lockman (R-ME)

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13153 "2014-03-02T01:38:09Z")

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What the hell is it with Republicans and rape? Is this the tea party or the rape party?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13154 "2014-03-02T01:38:22Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Obviously. Deuteronomy 14:21, no mixing meat and dairy !

NED FLANDERS [sitting in front of his destroyed house]: Why me, O Lord?! I did everything I was supposed to do . . . I even kept kosher just to be on the safe side . . .

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13155 "2014-03-02T01:42:46Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> What the hell is it with Republicans and rape? Is this the tea party or the rape party?

They need to declare a general party-wide moratorium on even mentioning the “r” word until after the midterm election. But would they have the self-discipline to observe it?

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13156 "2014-03-02T01:53:48Z")

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> [@Gagundathar](#):
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> Has anyone posted this one yet?
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> — State Rep. Lawrence Lockman (R-ME)

He did say that in 1995, and now says he regrets saying it. I can definitely see why.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13157 "2014-03-02T01:58:16Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> They need to declare a general party-wide moratorium on even mentioning the “r” word until after the midterm election. But would they have the self-discipline to observe it?

To be fair to the unfair, 🙂 that quote of his came from the 90’s but his quote became an issue when a Bangor Daily News writer, Mike Tipping compiled a list of remarks Lockman made over the last three decades just a few days ago.

The past just caught with him, what I wonder is why that was not an issue early.

[http://www.salon.com/chromeo/article/republican\_lawmaker\_very\_sorry\_he\_said\_men\_should\_be\_able\_to\_rape\_women\_if\_abortion\_is\_legal/](http://www.salon.com/chromeo/article/republican_lawmaker_very_sorry_he_said_men_should_be_able_to_rape_women_if_abortion_is_legal/)  
Edit: ninjaed by the \*\*slumtrimpet \*\*but at least I gave the cite.

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13158 "2014-03-02T03:10:50Z")

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Thanks for the enhanced information about this. I didn’t know it was a 20 year old quote.

Yeah, this is truly weird. As y’all know I am a moderate liberal (I suppose) and I never really ‘hated’ the right until the Bush years. Now, it just seems as if the GOP is a “wretched hive of scum and villainy”. What the heck is going on in these men’s minds? Rape is never acceptable. Ever. How can any ideology accept rape as a normal activity? It baffles me.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13159 "2014-03-02T03:40:50Z")

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> [@slumtrimpet](#):
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> He did say that in 1995, and now says he regrets saying it. I can definitely see why.

> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> … that quote of his came from the 90’s …

> [@Gagundathar](#):
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> I didn’t know it was a 20 year old quote.

And I don’t care.

The 1990s wasn’t some ancient time, full of cavemen and other sexist things. We had these little things called basic human rights all the way back then.

Hell, most of the people on this board had mortgages and were contributing to an IRA by 1995.

It was never acceptable to compare a woman’s right to her own body to a man’s ‘right’ to assault it.

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13160 "2014-03-02T12:59:41Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> And I don’t care.
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> The 1990s wasn’t some ancient time, full of cavemen and other sexist things. We had these little things called basic human rights all the way back then.
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> Hell, most of the people on this board had mortgages and were contributing to an IRA by 1995.
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> It was never acceptable to compare a woman’s right to her own body to a man’s ‘right’ to assault it.

Completely agree. Is why I can understand his regret (sucks to be outed). The man’s an asshat, then and still. It seems he’s all about being “focused on ensuring freedom and economic prosperity for all Mainers.” nowadays. The remarks he made about Gays back then are choice too.  
[TPN link](focused on ensuring freedom and economic prosperity for all Mainers.")

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