# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13221 "2014-03-05T06:30:27Z")

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Yet again the Republicans don’t get that Hitler actually repealed the stiff gun control laws implemented by Weimar.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13222 "2014-03-05T06:38:12Z")

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Dude, they put _Gandhi_ in with the pro-guns. You might have heard of him, tiny bald brown guy, wore a towel, lobbied for non-violence and passivity in the face of aggression his entire life ? I think it’s safe to say historical trivia isn’t the forte of whoever made that image.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13223 "2014-03-05T06:59:10Z")

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Just the other night saw Gandhi tell Elizabeth I that he is sending ten armored divisions and he’s gonna rip her tits off.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13224 "2014-03-05T07:20:02Z")

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[http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/03/04/gay-marriage-opponents-dont-know-theyre-on-the-wrong-side-of-public-opinion/](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/03/04/gay-marriage-opponents-dont-know-theyre-on-the-wrong-side-of-public-opinion/)

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> According to a new survey by the Public Religion Research Institute, only 41 percent of Americans oppose allowing same-sex couples to marry. But that same 41 percent has a highly skewed perception of where the rest of the country stands: nearly two-thirds of same-sex marriage opponents erroneously think most Americans agree with them. And only two in 10 same-sex marriage opponents realize that the majority of Americans support marriage equality…

Offered without comment.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13225 "2014-03-05T11:27:29Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Just the other night saw Gandhi tell Elizabeth I that he is sending ten armored divisions and he’s gonna rip her tits off.

Wow, I knew that Gandhi could be an aggressive asshole, but it sounds like they really kicked it up a notch in Civ V.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13226 "2014-03-05T13:14:09Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> Wow, I knew that Gandhi could be an aggressive asshole

[You’re not kidding.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfvLcozLwtE&feature=kp)

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13227 "2014-03-05T14:43:23Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Actual tweet from a Republican candidate for governor of California:
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> “History lesson: figures who have stood in favor of gun rights vs. gun control. Which side would you choose? [https://twitter.com/electdonnelly/status/440871558920568832/photo/1](http://pic.twitter.com/bAxe0sZVQ4)”
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> The picture shows Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Gandhi, and MLK being in favor of gun rights.
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> The rogue’s gallery of villains in favor of gun control comprises Hitler, Stalin, Mao, King George III (!), Kim Jong Il, and Obama.

I assume a MMA/cage match sort of format. I think I’d take Washington’s team. Gandhi would be useless, of course, but Lincoln was wicked strong.

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**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13228 "2014-03-05T14:53:47Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> [Pssst](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17151125&postcount=13132). 😉

Scooped!

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13229 "2014-03-05T15:32:45Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> I assume a MMA/cage match sort of format. I think I’d take Washington’s team. Gandhi would be useless, of course, but Lincoln was wicked strong.

I think I saw that [Red Dwarf episode.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meltdown_%28Red_Dwarf%29). Poor Winnie the Pooh got shot. Which \* completely\* refutes the Republican argument on gun control. I think.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13230 "2014-03-05T16:01:41Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> I assume a MMA/cage match sort of format. I think I’d take Washington’s team. Gandhi would be useless, of course, but Lincoln was wicked strong.

I’ll go with Kahless, Genghis Khan, Colonel Green and Zora.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13231 "2014-03-05T19:04:32Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Dude, they put _Gandhi_ in with the pro-guns. You might have heard of him, tiny bald brown guy, wore a towel, lobbied for non-violence and passivity in the face of aggression his entire life ? I think it’s safe to say historical trivia isn’t the forte of whoever made that image.

[Here](http://wagingnonviolence.org/feature/what-gandhi-really-thought-about-guns/http://) is a discussion of what the gun rights people are taking out of context. Basically, Gandhi was saying that if the ban on Indians using guns could be lifted, than they could join with the British in fighting in WWI, which might help to convince the British that they were worthy of being considered as equal partners in the Empire.

That Gandhi would support the individual gun ownership in order to fight off the oppressor is of course ludicrous.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13232 "2014-03-05T19:10:19Z")

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Er, um, maybe Gandhi favored non-violence because his side didn’t have guns, and so they couldn’t effectively defend themselves against an army?

Yeah, that’s the ticket!

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13233 "2014-03-05T19:13:29Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Er, um, maybe Gandhi favored non-violence because his side didn’t have guns, and so they couldn’t effectively defend themselves against an army?
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> Yeah, that’s the ticket!

The problem for the gun rights people is that Ghandi won.

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**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13234 "2014-03-05T19:27:55Z")

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It would appear that the new talking points from the Oil and Gas Industry are out…Both [John Boehner](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/boehner-obama-putin-natural-gas) and [Paul Ryan](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/05/paul-ryan-stuns-cnn-host-keystone-pipeline-will-solve-russias-ukraine-invasion/), in totally unrelated interviews, have said that Oil and Gas exports and starting work on the Keystone Pipeline are the key to ending the crisis in The Ukraine.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13235 "2014-03-05T19:38:50Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> [Here](http://wagingnonviolence.org/feature/what-gandhi-really-thought-about-guns/http://) is a discussion of what the gun rights people are taking out of context. Basically, Gandhi was saying that if the ban on Indians using guns could be lifted, than they could join with the British in fighting in WWI, which might help to convince the British that they were worthy of being considered as equal partners in the Empire.

And yet he himself refused any active (that is to say, people-killy) role in the war.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13236 "2014-03-05T19:50:57Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> The problem for the gun rights people is that Ghandi won.

If winning includes being assassinated by a man with a gun, then sure!. Lincoln and MLK were winners by the same standards. 😉

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13237 "2014-03-05T19:51:51Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> And yet he himself refused any active (that is to say, people-killy) role in the war.

But he did serve as a stretcher-bearer, IIRC. Act of mercy, perfectly nonviolent and Gandhian, never mind that you’re aiding and abetting a war effort . . .

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13238 "2014-03-05T19:52:32Z")

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John McCain has come out today with the idea that an essay Obama wrote when he was a senior at Columbia is the basis for the Ukraine crisis.

> **[McCain Attacks Obama Over What He Wrote About Russia In College](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-mccain-ukraine_n_4899085?ir=Politics)**
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> McCain Attacks Obama Over What He Wrote About Russia In College

Congressman Steve King doesn’t believe there are really any gays - [Steve King: The Problem Is Homosexuality Is 'Self-Professed,' Can't Be 'Independently Verified' | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/03/steve-king-arizona-anti-gay-bill_n_4892343.html)

Stephen Colbert wants gays to send Congressman King videos of them having gay sex to prove to him that there really are gay people.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13239 "2014-03-05T19:55:52Z")

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> [@yanceylebeef](#):
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> It would appear that the new talking points from the Oil and Gas Industry are out…Both [John Boehner](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/boehner-obama-putin-natural-gas) and [Paul Ryan](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/05/paul-ryan-stuns-cnn-host-keystone-pipeline-will-solve-russias-ukraine-invasion/), in totally unrelated interviews, have said that Oil and Gas exports and starting work on the Keystone Pipeline are the key to ending the crisis in The Ukraine.

I read an article in Bloomberg the other day about this. American natural gas producers are chomping at the bit to sell LNG to Europe & why not Ukraine? Even if they can’t do it right now, we’re still talking about American multinationals who’d love some juicy contracts in Ukraine helping bring their energy sector up to the 21st century. If Russia wants to play games and shut off the gas to Ukraine, as it has twice before, there are plenty of companies more than willing to step in and make Central and Eastern European gas and oil much more secure and reliable. We just have to get their economies to the point they can afford it.

Fracking isn’t popular in the EU, but it’s a potential in Ukraine.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13240 "2014-03-05T20:09:27Z")

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When will we get the proposal for a transAtlantic piipeline?

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