# Stupid Republican idea of the day

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13441 "2014-03-14T00:10:49Z")

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Does anyone know what HR 4138: EXECUTIVE NEEDS TO FAITHFULLY OBSERVE AND RE- SPECT CONGRESSIONAL ENACT- MENTS OF THE LAW ACT OF 2014, AND PROVIDING FOR CONSIDER- ATION OF H.R. 3973, FAITHFUL EXECUTION OF THE LAW ACT OF 2014

is about? I just can’t quite wrap my head around it?

[Text of 4138](http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20140310/CPRT-113-HPRT-RU00-HR4138.pdf)

[Text of 3973](http://beta.congress.gov/113/bills/hr3973/BILLS-113hr3973ih.pdf)

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13442 "2014-03-14T00:29:29Z")

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The first one lets Congress sue the President if he refuses to enforce some silly-ass unconstitutional law they passed to their liking. Nose to the grindstone, and we’ll sue your ass if you don’t do it quickly! Chop chop!

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13443 "2014-03-14T00:35:16Z")

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When in office, I’ve noticed that Republicans will either remove the progress made by Democrats by repealing things or de-funding things or giving tax cuts to everyone in sight, if they have the votes, or they will stall and spend time suing and investigating and holding doomed votes 50 times in a row.

When you elect people to government who believe there shouldn’t be a government, it’s not at all surprising that the only things they manage to do while in office are to tear it down, or stick their thumbs in their asses.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13444 "2014-03-14T00:56:26Z")

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Thanks, I thought that’s what it was about, but, though I read a lot of these, it just seemed to odd to be true …

Wait a minute. Why didn’t you two post these? This stuff is more important that news reports that either side will claim is just bias. If you follow the CR and you can grasp the political implications of various bills, you should be keeping us informed.

> [@silenus](#):
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> The first one lets Congress sue the President if he refuses to enforce some silly-ass unconstitutional law they passed to their liking. Nose to the grindstone, and we’ll sue your ass if you don’t do it quickly! Chop chop!

> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> When in office, I’ve noticed that Republicans will either remove the progress made by Democrats by repealing things or de-funding things or giving tax cuts to everyone in sight, if they have the votes, or they will stall and spend time suing and investigating and holding doomed votes 50 times in a row.
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> When you elect people to government who believe there shouldn’t be a government, it’s not at all surprising that the only things they manage to do while in office are to tear it down, or stick their thumbs in their asses.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13445 "2014-03-14T01:03:25Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Pat Robertson says God shut off the power in Washington DC to punish the Democrats over their debate on global warming. [http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/13/pat-robertson-god-shut-off-d-c-power-as-a-fun-way-to-punish-dems-for-climate-lies/](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/13/pat-robertson-god-shut-off-d-c-power-as-a-fun-way-to-punish-dems-for-climate-lies/) I guess no Republicans were punished.

Not conclusively stupid. The Bible is full of examples of God punishing the innocent along with, or sometimes even instead of, the guilty.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13446 "2014-03-14T01:09:19Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> The first one lets Congress sue the President if he refuses to enforce some silly-ass unconstitutional law they passed to their liking. Nose to the grindstone, and we’ll sue your ass if you don’t do it quickly! Chop chop!

I’m not sure I see the point or how that situation would come up in the first place. Either Congress passes a law, the President agrees with it and enforces it ; or he vetoes it. Or is 4138 supposed to be a “constitution schmonstitution, veto schmeto” type thing ? A stand against executive orders, what ?

Regardless, lawmakers who come up with “meaningful”, tortured acronyms to name their bills oughta be shot.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13447 "2014-03-14T01:26:50Z")

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It’s a stand against Executive Orders, budget allocations, enforcement priorities, and a wholesale power-grab by Congress, or at least the nutball wing thereof.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13448 "2014-03-14T01:32:40Z")

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@j666

I am usually on the web to relax. I’ll comment on stuff but I’m not industrious enough (generally) to actively seek out examples.

I do appreciate those who bring the links. We wouldn’t have as much to discuss without them, and we would all be less entertained.

Kudos guys.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13449 "2014-03-14T01:33:58Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Tennessee state legislature is planning on preventing all state Universities from paying for any outside speakers to come to the campuses to speak. Because of “Sex Week” at U of T, which did not pay anybody to come to speak.
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> [Tennessee Lawmakers Aim To Punish University For 'Sex Week' By Cutting Back Public Debate | HuffPost College](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/12/tennessee-lawmakers-sex-week_n_4944060.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013&ir=Politics)

Yes! Campfield! _/high-five/_ I knew it without looking. Fucking mouthbreather.

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13450 "2014-03-14T01:34:10Z")

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John McCain Unloads On Senate Republicans: ‘I Haven’t Been Embarrassed This Way’

> **[McCain Eviscerates Fellow GOPers: 'Don't Call Yourselves Reagan Republicans'](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-mccain-ukraine_n_4959741?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592)**
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> McCain Eviscerates Fellow GOPers: 'Don't Call Yourselves Reagan Republicans'

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13451 "2014-03-14T01:56:58Z")

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> [@johnpost](#):
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> John McCain Unloads On Senate Republicans: ‘I Haven’t Been Embarrassed This Way’
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> [John McCain Unloads On Senate Republicans: 'I Haven't Been Embarrassed This Way' | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/13/john-mccain-ukraine_n_4959741.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592)

I didn’t know McCain was still capable of feeling shame or embarrassment.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13452 "2014-03-14T02:01:45Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> @j666
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> I am usually on the web to relax. I’ll comment on stuff but I’m not industrious enough (generally) to actively seek out examples.

It’s part of my job to read this stuff, and identify bills that might effect my company (just in case the phalanx of lawyers we employ or retain miss something).

I am not a lawyer, politician, lobbyist, or, obviously, a law clerk or legislative staff, so if a bill isn’t directly related to my industry, I am useless for figuring out the political basis for it. So I really appreciate it when someone can re-assure me, “yes, that is nuts”.

Thank you, and let me know if you ever need the enforcement practices on medical products interpreted.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13453 "2014-03-14T02:03:18Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> If your public schools have means of production he’s got a point : you’re doing \*something \*wrong :).

Well, of course, public schools can always operate at a profit by hiring out their students as kiddie-whores and rent-a-slaves; and most school districts do.  
What do you mean, it was only mine?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13454 "2014-03-14T02:05:23Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Only in the context of a fabric woven with metallic threads. Any other use would be retarded.

Game, set, and match.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13455 "2014-03-14T02:06:52Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> Does anyone know what HR 4138: EXECUTIVE NEEDS TO FAITHFULLY OBSERVE AND RE- SPECT CONGRESSIONAL ENACT- MENTS OF THE LAW ACT OF 2014, AND PROVIDING FOR CONSIDER- ATION OF H.R. 3973, FAITHFUL EXECUTION OF THE LAW ACT OF 2014
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> is about? I just can’t quite wrap my head around it?
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> [Text of 4138](http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20140310/CPRT-113-HPRT-RU00-HR4138.pdf)
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> [Text of 3973](http://beta.congress.gov/113/bills/hr3973/BILLS-113hr3973ih.pdf)

You need to feed your head.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13456 "2014-03-14T02:34:49Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Well, of course, public schools can always operate at a profit by hiring out their students as kiddie-whores

That’s social ownership of the means of _re_production. Totally different thing.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13457 "2014-03-14T02:37:34Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> I’m not sure I see the point or how that situation would come up in the first place. Either Congress passes a law, the President agrees with it and enforces it ; or he vetoes it. Or is 4138 supposed to be a “constitution schmonstitution, veto schmeto” type thing ? A stand against executive orders, what ?

I suspect it has to do with the Obama administration’s refusing to direct the Office of the U.S. Solicitor General to defend the Defense of Marriage Act when it is challenged before federal courts.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13458 "2014-03-14T02:40:36Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I suspect it has to do with the Obama administration’s refusing to direct the Office of the U.S. Solicitor General to defend the Defense of Marriage Act when it is challenged before federal courts.

An amazing and just move which opens him up to legitimate criticism about not enforcing an existing law.

But that’s like not enforcing a law upholding slavery. There are some laws so poorly thought-out and indefensible that it is an act of justice to not uphold them.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13459 "2014-03-14T03:42:46Z")

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[What it is all about.](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/13/1284289/-House-GOP-and-Five-Democrats-Pass-Bill-that-Attacks-Exec-Orders-Threatens-DREAMers)

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/13460 "2014-03-14T05:10:35Z")

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One attempt down, another 49 to go to catch up with “Repeal Obamacare!!!”

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