# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 713
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14241 "2014-04-24T15:31:14Z")
Honestly, are you really surprised that a guy like that would hold those views? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14242 "2014-04-24T15:32:41Z")
> [@Clarisse\_McClellan](#): > > You have got to be fucking kidding me. Yep. I thought it was satire until I found it in the New York Times. Way to pick your role models, Tea Party! ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14243 "2014-04-24T15:32:41Z")
I literally do not believe that anyone today would say that. I can’t. I don’t want to. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14244 "2014-04-24T15:34:42Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > Cliven Bundy continues to enjoy [his 15 minutes](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us/politics/rancher-proudly-breaks-the-law-becoming-a-hero-in-the-west.html?_r=0): I saw a post here in the last few days pointing to stories that Bundy has been lying about how long he and his family has been on the land, but the Times is repeating his original claim without comment. I can’t find it now. Can anyone point me toward the claims that he’s relatively new to the land? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14245 "2014-04-24T15:36:03Z")
[Here’s one.](http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25302186/an-abbreviated-look-at-rancher-cliven-bundys-family-history) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14246 "2014-04-24T15:38:15Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > Cliven Bundy continues to enjoy [his 15 minutes](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us/politics/rancher-proudly-breaks-the-law-becoming-a-hero-in-the-west.html?_r=0): This part is good, too: > [@](#): > > Mr. Bundy disputes the legitimacy of both the bureau and the courts that have ruled against him. “I’ll be damned if I’m going to honor a federal court that has no jurisdiction or authority or arresting power over we the people,” he said. Betcha he looks for the gold fringe on the flag when he’s finally brought into court. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14247 "2014-04-24T15:40:05Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > Cliven Bundy continues to enjoy [his 15 minutes](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us/politics/rancher-proudly-breaks-the-law-becoming-a-hero-in-the-west.html?_r=0): Mr. Bundy is a true Job Creator. We look at a housing project and see poor people who have no other recourse. Mr. Bundy looks at a housing project and sees people he can kidnap and force to work for free in cotton fields. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14248 "2014-04-24T15:59:04Z")
> [@Calatin](#): > > Current “top story / headline” on the Drudge Report? > > **[U.S. President Bows to Japanese Robot](http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/04/24/Obama-Bows-to-Japanese-Robot).** > > I assume that’s meant to stir up some sort of outrage, but for the life of me, I can’t determine what / how. I for one welcome our new robotic overlords. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14249 "2014-04-24T16:28:21Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > Mr. Bundy is a true Job Creator. We look at a housing project and see poor people who have no other recourse. Mr. Bundy looks at a housing project and sees people he can kidnap and force to work for free in cotton fields. His federal land cotton fields. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14250 "2014-04-24T16:41:17Z")
That his family has been farming since 1623. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14251 "2014-04-24T16:49:34Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I literally do not believe that anyone today would say that. I can’t. I don’t want to. I can’t believe anyone speaks of “the Negro” any more! Didn’t think that usage survived the 1960s! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14252 "2014-04-24T16:51:03Z")
> [@Calatin](#): > > Current “top story / headline” on the Drudge Report? > > **[U.S. President Bows to Japanese Robot](http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/04/24/Obama-Bows-to-Japanese-Robot).** > > I assume that’s meant to stir up some sort of outrage, but for the life of me, I can’t determine what / how. It says he “exchanged bows” with the robot – common Japanese courtesy, when in Rome, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14253 "2014-04-24T17:16:46Z")
> [@Calatin](#): > > Current “top story / headline” on the Drudge Report? > > **[U.S. President Bows to Japanese Robot](http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/04/24/Obama-Bows-to-Japanese-Robot).** > > I assume that’s meant to stir up some sort of outrage, but for the life of me, I can’t determine what / how. It’s referring back to when they were criticizing Obama for bowing to foreign leaders. Of course, it was just one of the many thing that all or many presidents did before him that’s OK if you are not a democrat. Or white. Or whatever they think makes the difference. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14254 "2014-04-24T17:18:41Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I literally do not believe that anyone today would say that. I can’t. I don’t want to. You want something else to disbelieve? [Glenn Beck sounds like the voice of reason](http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/glenn-beck-cliven-bundy-unhinged-105991.html?hp=l1) when commenting on Bundy. I swear, the apocalypse must be just around the corner. I’m agreeing with Beck about something. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14255 "2014-04-24T17:32:13Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I can’t believe anyone speaks of “the Negro” any more! Didn’t think that usage survived the 1960s! To clarify, I do not mean the word “negro” (which there is no good reason to capitalize), I mean the phrase “the Negro,” as if there were only one of them or they were all the same, the way Hitler spoke of “the Jew.” I would not call it an inherently racist usage – MLK often said “the Negro” – but it does seem oddly archaic now. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14256 "2014-04-24T17:35:13Z")
[Conservatives now appear divided on Bundy.](http://www.salon.com/2014/04/24/conservatives_cant_decide_whether_to_disown_or_defend_cliven_bundy/) Some are condemning him, some are dodging/dismissing the racism question – and some are actually defending him: > [@](#): > > Radio host and the Blaze contributor Dana Loesch, for example, responded to Bundy’s comments with a shrug of her shoulders, writing, “I hope no one is surprised that an old man rancher isn’t media trained to express himself perfectly.” Loesch did grant that, “at face value,” Bundy’s comments on race were “odd and sound[ed] offensive” but she also claimed that Bundy was, essentially, correct. “He seems to be decrying what big government has done to the black family,” Loesch wrote, “which big government has negatively affected not just the black family, but all families regardless of ethnicity [.]“ Loesch then went on to argue that Bundy was a distraction and that the larger issue of government overreach was in no way made less legitimate just because its mascot turned out to be an unreconstructed bigot. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14257 "2014-04-24T17:37:19Z")
When someone begins a speech, “I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” you just know it’s going to be gold. > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I can’t believe anyone speaks of “the Negro” any more! Didn’t think that usage survived the 1960s! Some of my college-level history students still write and speak using the word. Admittedly, this is partially due to the fact that some of the primary sources we read also use the word “negro” to refer to blacks, but i make clear to the students that historians need to distinguish between terms that were commonplace in the past, and terms that are appropriate for modern use. And still some of them persist in talking about “negro rights” and other similar stuff in their papers, and in class discussion. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14258 "2014-04-24T17:39:42Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > To clarify, I do not mean the word “negro”. To be honest, i don’t think there’s any good reason for using the word “negro” these days to describe black people. I don’t think that using it is, by itself, any necessary indicator of racism or any other problematic worldview—more likely ignorance of changing usage—but it does sound archaic and inappropriate, to me at least. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14259 "2014-04-24T17:45:20Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > You want something else to disbelieve? > > [Glenn Beck sounds like the voice of reason](http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/glenn-beck-cliven-bundy-unhinged-105991.html?hp=l1) when commenting on Bundy. > > I swear, the apocalypse must be just around the corner. I’m agreeing with Beck about something. I feel lightheaded. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14260 "2014-04-24T17:45:31Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [Conservatives now appear divided on Bundy.](http://www.salon.com/2014/04/24/conservatives_cant_decide_whether_to_disown_or_defend_cliven_bundy/) Some are condemning him, some are dodging/dismissing the racism question – and some are actually defending him: - What overreach FFS \*? You mean collecting 20 years worth of back-owed fees ? Not letting private entities do whatever the fuck they please on land they do not own ? Expecting a guy to comply with a court verdict ? The Federal Gvt. having the temerity of insisting that it does, in fact, \*exist \*? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=712) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=714)