# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14541 "2014-05-08T19:12:24Z")

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So are the Democrats going to walk out of this sham the moment it gets ridiculous, for the cameras, or will they just boycott the thing and let the non-Fox coverage be about what grandstanding fools the Reps are?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14542 "2014-05-08T19:15:41Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> And just because McCain is still alive now doesn’t mean he wouldn’t have died if he was president, either from additional job stress or some other unpredictable “butterfly effect” change. We could have been in the second Palin administration right now!

Palin couldn’t even finish **one** administration.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14543 "2014-05-08T19:27:54Z")

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> [@yanceylebeef](#):
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> Ted Cruz releases his [“Legal Limit Report No. 4”](http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/07/ted-cruz-releases-definitive-list-of-76-lawless-obama-actions/) .
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> It’s a list of 76 lawless Obama actions.
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> Here is a taste of eight, if you just want to get a feel for the whole thing…
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> 1. “Government agencies are engaging in ‘Operation Choke Point,’ where the government asks banks to ‘choke off’ access to financial services for customers engaging in conduct the Administration does not like—such as ‘ammunition sales.’”

I’m with you on the first seven points, but Cruz is right about Operation Choke Point. Because the Obama administration is using it to go after, not just ammunition sales, [but porn](http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/28/doj-operation-chokepoint-and-porn-stars). Also[prostitutes](http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2014/05/06/choke-point/). He’s using pressure on financial institutions to accomplish what he could NOT accomplish illegally. I think this should be a nonpartisan: Operation Choke Point is an anathema, and Obama needs to be called out on it for his tyrannical actions. I join Ted Cruz on this one particular point. And so should you.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14544 "2014-05-08T19:50:07Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> I’m with you on the first seven points, but Cruz is right about Operation Choke Point. Because the Obama administration is using it to go after, not just ammunition sales, [but porn](http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/28/doj-operation-chokepoint-and-porn-stars). Also[prostitutes](http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2014/05/06/choke-point/). He’s using pressure on financial institutions to accomplish what he could NOT accomplish illegally. I think this should be a nonpartisan: Operation Choke Point is an anathema, and Obama needs to be called out on it for his tyrannical actions. I join Ted Cruz on this one particular point. And so should you.

[Not true](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/operation-chokepoint-banks-porn-stars), OCP is a program designed to take nefarious payday lenders to task. And I’m all for that.  
It’s also worth noting that this program has the support of Elizabeth Warren.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14545 "2014-05-08T19:51:33Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Palin couldn’t even finish **one** administration.

She might have got us nuked in the first.

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**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14546 "2014-05-08T19:53:58Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Tucker Carlson: [Women who pay for dinner for men are disgusting](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/06/fox-news-host-tucker-carlson-women-who-pay-for-mens-dinners-are-disgusting/)

Dang! My wife paid for my dinner just last night!

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**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14547 "2014-05-08T20:07:07Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> [Not true](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/operation-chokepoint-banks-porn-stars), OCP is a program designed to take nefarious payday lenders to task. And I’m all for that.

You’re down with OCP?

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14548 "2014-05-08T20:11:57Z")

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> [@Calatin](#):
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> You’re down with OCP?

Yeah, you know me.

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**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14549 "2014-05-08T20:20:17Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> Yeah, you know me.

Dallas represent. _fist pump_

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14550 "2014-05-08T20:29:46Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> Because the Obama administration is using it to go after, not just ammunition sales, [but porn](http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/28/doj-operation-chokepoint-and-porn-stars). Also[prostitutes](http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2014/05/06/choke-point/).

Cite for ammunition, anybody?

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> He’s using pressure on financial institutions to accomplish what he could NOT accomplish illegally.

I saw what you did there. 😃

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14551 "2014-05-08T20:34:07Z")

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> [@Gedd](#):
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> Dang! My wife paid for my dinner just last night!

Jesus, I’m trying to eat here. Take your gross stories elsewhere!

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**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14552 "2014-05-08T20:39:24Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> …Tucker Carlson: [Women who pay for dinner for men are disgusting](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/06/fox-news-host-tucker-carlson-women-who-pay-for-mens-dinners-are-disgusting/)…

The headline is misleading: Carlson isn’t saying the _women_ are disgusting, at least not specifically. He seems to be blaming the men for not doing a good job at upholding the traditional male role of paying for dinner. I mean, a tiny point, but…

They all seem to be defending the idea that we’re supposed to live by the gender roles of cavemen (and women) to a weird degree. At least they acknowledge cavemen. Did Adam hunt in the Garden of Eden, or did Adam and Eve just pick fruit off trees to eat?

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14553 "2014-05-08T21:10:39Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> And just because McCain is still alive now doesn’t mean he wouldn’t have died if he was president, either from additional job stress or some other unpredictable “butterfly effect” change. We could have been in the second Palin administration right now!

I’m not saying she would have had him killed…I’m just asking questions…like,

“How far would Sarah have gone to be the first female POTUS?”

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14554 "2014-05-08T21:22:17Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> [Not true](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/operation-chokepoint-banks-porn-stars), OCP is a program designed to take nefarious payday lenders to task. And I’m all for that.  
> It’s also worth noting that this program has the support of Elizabeth Warren.

Did you read that quote. Mother Jones is buying the Kool-Aid. They are buying JP Morgan Chase’s claims that the closure of varous pornstars’ accounts has NOTHING to do with the OCP and the Obama administration’s denials that they are calling on banks to attack pornstars EVEN THOUGH the porn industry is one of those admittedly targeted by the OCP.

[Here’s a techdirt article](http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140430/12191027079/chase-bank-slutshaming-might-only-be-them-dancing-to-dojs-twisted-puppet-strings.shtml) explaining why the OCP is a VERY VERY bad idea. Really, you have to be INCREDIBLY naive to buy that shit, and frankly, I’m really disappointed in Mother Jones and Elizabeth Warren for doing so. They’ve both lost some cred here, as far as I’m concerned.

Remember, this is the Obama administration that brought us NSA spying, witch hunts against whistleblowers, the death of Net Neutrality, and drone strikes. You (generic you) are a damned fool if you trust them.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14555 "2014-05-08T21:24:27Z")

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> [@Calatin](#):
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> You’re down with OCP?

OK, that was fuckin’ funny! 😃

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14556 "2014-05-08T21:35:56Z")

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> [@River\_Hippie](#):
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> I’m not saying she would have had him killed…I’m just asking questions…like,
> 
> “How far would Sarah have gone to be the first female POTUS?”

Let us just say, her cross-hairs map probably would have looked slightly different …

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**Author:** ![Sweetums](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Sweetums](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweetums)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14557 "2014-05-08T22:32:39Z")

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> [@River\_Hippie](#):
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> I’m not saying she would have had him killed…I’m just asking questions…like,
> 
> “How far would Sarah have gone to be the first female POTUS?”

```
Not very far I would guess. If she can't handle being Governor of Alaska, she definitely wouldn't be able to handle being POTUS. She is much happier being a mean spirited Monday morning quarterback for the real politicians.

```

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14558 "2014-05-08T23:39:57Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> [Homophobic Men Most Aroused by Gay Male Porn](http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn)

> [@](#):
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> One video depicted straight sex, one depicted lesbian sex and one depicted gay male sex. While this was happening, a device was attached to each participant’s penis. This device has been found to be triggered by sexual arousal, but not other types of arousal (such as nervousness, or fear - arousal often has a very different meaning in psychology than in popular usage).

“Device?” Is that what the science kids are calling it? Mine is effective at indicating a broader range of emotions. It not only gets bigger when I am sexually aroused, but it also shrinks way down when I am nervous or frightened. Or cold.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14559 "2014-05-09T01:47:25Z")

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> [@a35362](#):
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> At least they acknowledge cavemen. Did Adam hunt in the Garden of Eden, or did Adam and Eve just pick fruit off trees to eat?

Well-connected sources indicate Eve did occasionally pick fruit.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/14560 "2014-05-09T02:08:34Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> D.
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> Remember, this is the Obama administration that brought us NSA spying, witch hunts against whistleblowers, the death of Net Neutrality, and drone strikes. You (generic you) are a damned fool if you trust them.

I was not aware that all those things began on January 21st, 2009.

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