# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17981 "2014-11-28T22:36:18Z")

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[Texas’s latest attempt at nullification of federal laws](http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/11/26/3596488/a-texas-lawmakers-bizarre-plan-to-secede-from-the-union-one-law-at-a-time/): a 14-member board, 8 of whom can declare a federal law null within the state and which would be approved (or not) at the next legislative session. Because that worked so well in the 19th century.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17982 "2014-11-28T22:39:38Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Texas’s latest attempt at nullification of federal laws](http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/11/26/3596488/a-texas-lawmakers-bizarre-plan-to-secede-from-the-union-one-law-at-a-time/): a 14-member board, 8 of whom can declare a federal law null within the state and which would be approved (or not) at the next legislative session. Because that worked so well in the 19th century.

It really seems sometimes that a lot of people have completely missed most of the 19th Century, actually. Not to mention a goodly portion of the 20th.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17983 "2014-11-28T23:58:14Z")

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[creating one’s own alternate reality]If they determine that it isn’t a law, then it would be unconstitutional for it to be a law, and therefore it is unconstitutional for it to be a law.[/creating one’s own alternate reality]

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2014, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17984 "2014-11-29T18:27:11Z")

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… circling back to the OP, almost eighteen thousand posts later,

[quote=“[Elizabeth Lauten, RNC (via RawStory)]  
([http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/republican-staffer-says-obama-daughters-are-disrespectful-and-dress-like-bar-sluts/](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/republican-staffer-says-obama-daughters-are-disrespectful-and-dress-like-bar-sluts/))”]Dear Sasha and Malia, I get that you’re both in those awful teen years, but you’re part of the First Family, try showing a little class. At least respect the part that you play. Then again your mother and father don’t respect their positions very much, or the nation for that matter, so I’m guessing you’re coming up a little short in the ‘good role model’ department.

Nevertheless, stretch yourself, rise to the occasion. Act like being in the White House matters to you. Dress like you deserve respect, not a spot at a bar. And certainly don’t make faces during televised, public events.  
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So, “Nanny State”, anyone?

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2014, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17985 "2014-11-29T18:47:20Z")

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…Wow. That’s fucking _low_.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17986 "2014-11-29T21:15:46Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> …Wow. That’s fucking _low_.

Not low, looks like about two hands above the knee; the same standard that was set back when I went to junior high. Not slutty, just regular young girl coverings.  
Praise the lord we’re not stuck with that frilly-sleeved mid-calf length crap that plagued us all during the Reagan years. Everyone looked like Melissa Sue Anderson in Little House on the Prairie for a while there, _shudder!_

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2014, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17987 "2014-11-29T21:46:15Z")

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Here’s the thing. Lauten’s post is very revealing. Of course, there’s the casual racism of it, but Lauten and Republicans like her REALLY WOULD like to return America to the 1950s if they could. THEY STILL LIVE THERE IN THEIR HEADS. That’s why they are so generally pissed off about everything. Everything that has happened during the 60s and afterward is an affront to their idea of how the US should be.

And of course, racism was MUCH more tolerated in the 1950s.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17988 "2014-11-29T22:19:26Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> Lauten and Republicans like her REALLY WOULD like to return America to the 1950s if they could.

Gotta love that [Teen pregnancy rate (15-19 year olds) back in the 50’s](http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db89.pdf).  
Girls must’ve been far randier before the sexual revolution ruined everything for everybody.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2014, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17989 "2014-11-29T22:33:30Z")

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That whole 50’s nostalgia thing amuses me. It’s TV 50’s. And the whole “old West” thing. Also TV. So many people nostalgic for TV, not reality.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2014, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17990 "2014-11-29T22:51:53Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Gotta love that [Teen pregnancy rate (15-19 year olds) back in the 50’s](http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db89.pdf).  
> Girls must’ve been far randier before the sexual revolution ruined everything for everybody.

I think it had more to do with you had to go to the counter, look that man right in the tie clasp and _ask_ for r-r-r-rubbers.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2014, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17991 "2014-11-29T23:03:26Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> …Wow. That’s fucking _low_.

I like how it say she took “many hours of prayer” to decide to apologize (and delete the comments).

Maybe instead of ‘many hours of prayer’ you should watch two seconds of the internet reacting to your crap?

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**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2014, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17992 "2014-11-29T23:50:44Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> I like how it say she took “many hours of prayer” to decide to apologize (and delete the comments).
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> Maybe instead of ‘many hours of prayer’ you should watch two seconds of the internet reacting to your crap?

Ms. Lauten: Dear God, am I a dick?

God: YES.

I suspect the fear of losing her job had a lot more to do with it than any “prayer.”

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**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2014, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17993 "2014-11-29T23:59:49Z")

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Has the entire W. presidency been excised from the minds of the right wing? Have the forgotten the [party twins?](http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20134687,00.html) Busted for underage drinking within the first six months of their father taking office.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17994 "2014-11-30T00:20:27Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> look that man right in the tie clasp and _ask_ for r-r-r-rubbers.

[Eddie Haskell](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Haskell) woulda done it.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17995 "2014-11-30T00:21:00Z")

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> [@Strassia](#):
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> Has the entire W. presidency been excised from the minds of the right wing? Have the forgotten the [party twins?](http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20134687,00.html) Busted for underage drinking within the first six months of their father taking office.

_pssssst…the entire W. Bush family is white. Just in case you’ve forgotten._

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17996 "2014-11-30T00:51:16Z")

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Republican (as usual with deniers) Anthony Watts **did go there** , godwin and the antisemitism is showing on top of the anti science and denialism that is coming from many Republicans.  
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Anthony Watts tries for one foot in the Hitler camp and one foot out \*\*

> **[Anthony Watts tries for one foot in the Hitler camp and one foot out](https://blog.hotwhopper.com/2014/11/anthony-watts-tries-for-one-foot-in.html)**
>
> Global warming & climate change. Eavesdropping on climate science deniers, their weird pseudo-science and crazy conspiracy theories.

> [@](#):
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> I’ve noticed a few people expressing shock and disbelief that Anthony Watts would put up the article that Tim Ball wrote the other day.
> 
> I don’t know why they picked out that particular one.
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> Yes, it was shocking. Yes, it was not only one of the dumbest articles you’ll ever read, it was horrible. Tim Ball was basically accusing climate scientists of being Hitlers. He quoted a passage from Hitler’s writings to prove that climate science was one big con. (Yeah - weird!) He was accusing climate scientists of massive deception on a centuries-long world-wide scale, which is something that Anthony encourages his readers to believe quite often. So that’s nothing new.  
> Thing is, Anthony Watts often posts articles by Tim Ball, some of which, to my reading, have been just as shocking as the one he posted the other day.
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> I won’t go into the detail of the article itself. I’ll just point out that it took quite some time for Anthony to finally hint that he knows this time he’s gone way too far. Well, he’s gone too far on many occasions. However, this time he’s decided he’d better try to distance himself from the article. He’s belatedly added a tiny little post-script:
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> > [@](#):
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> > ```
> > Disclaimer [added]: This post is entirely the opinion of Dr. Tim Ball, it does not neccessarily reflect the opinion of Anthony Watts or other authors who publish at WUWT. – Anthony Watts
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> > ```
> 
> Too little, too late. He doesn’t actually dissociate himself from the article, you’ll notice. He doesn’t say - this is most definitely NOT my opinion. All he says is that it doesn’t “necessarily” reflect his opinion. It might or might not. He’s not saying. Most certainly he doesn’t think it’s necessary to remove the article.

Eli Rabett does not pull punches on what is going regarding what is passing as “devate” among the deniers:

> **[Eli's Thanksgiving Gift to Sou](http://rabett.blogspot.com/2014/11/elis-thanksgiving-gift-to-sou.html)**
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> Well, ok, Eli is on occasion a trouble maker.  This all started when Willard Tony gave the keys to Tim Ball, the elder northern bunnies may...

> [@](#):
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> Well, ok, Eli is on occasion a trouble maker. This all started when Willard Tony gave the keys to Tim Ball, the elder northern bunnies may remember him. Well in the grand tradition of the Good Lord, Monckton (and anybunny following that link will understand why Eli calls him “Good Lord,” maybe with a comma in there) when you are on the grift you have to keep accelerating the crazy to move the crowd to the next level otherwise the well dries up.
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> So anyhow, Ball went full Godwin at WT’s not only that but Agenda 21 and Maurice Strong, international man of luggage made guest appearances. Eli understands that Stephan Lewandowsky has down loaded the post and comments and put them under armed guard. It was all there and more, maybe no moon landing but not much else was missing in the Thanksgiving melange.
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> Victor Venema brought this to the attention of Eli on ATTPs fairwell tour (how many times have the Rolling Stones milked that cow?):
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> > [@](#):
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> > Victor Venema says:November 23, 2014 at 11:12 pm[Mod: Agreed, thank you]Meanwhile in the real world, TIm Ball is citing from Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf to explain to his faithful how it was possible that all climate scientists would conspire against humanity and are trying to install a socialist world government via the UN.
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> > ```
> > Do also read the comments. Almost all WUWT-er are swallowing it hook line and sinker. One person links to his own post called “adolf-hitler-the-most-lied-about-man-in-history/”. I did not dare to click on it. Seems to be acceptable at WUWT. MCourtney is the local voice of some reason and ask people not to blame to “ethno-Bolsheviks”, but to honestly call them Jews. 
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> > Enjoy. The self-deconstruction of the mitigation sceptics. 
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> > Have asked Anthony Watts on twitter whether he read the post before publishing it. He did not respond yet. Would be nice to get a: I am Anthony Watts and I approve this message.
> > 
> > ```

I have seen also that the preferred targets of a group of the deniers are scientists who are jews, I really do wonder when this will finally make the responsible Republicans (or I’m being too optimistic here?) realize that a chunk of the ones that are pushing for anti science regarding climate science are doing it also for other more unsavory reasons.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17997 "2014-11-30T01:04:12Z")

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Forgot to add: when looking at who is funding those yahoos one has to wonder also how far they will be allowed to spew that kind of trash, and when their funding coming from the Heartland Institute and other right wing groups will end.

I mean, do they care **at all** about what groups like WUWT are doing with their money? Or do they like what they see??

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**Author:** ![Batfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Batfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batfish)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17998 "2014-11-30T01:21:23Z")

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What’s WUWT?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/17999 "2014-11-30T01:27:52Z")

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> [@Batfish](#):
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> What’s WUWT?

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Watts Up With That\*, the main blog for climate change deniers out there, or like they want to call themselves: “Skeptics” of the current consensus the scientists have regarding climate change, but many that look at what they do know that the correct term to use for them is [Fake Skeptics](http://tamino.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/how-fake-skeptics-fool-themselves-part-infinity-sea-ice-version/).

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18000 "2014-11-30T01:33:39Z")

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[And they are more of an astroturf organization rather than a grassroots one](http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/feb/15/leak-exposes-heartland-institute-climate).

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