# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18001 "2014-11-30T04:21:45Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> Here’s the thing. Lauten’s post is very revealing. Of course, there’s the casual racism of it, but Lauten and Republicans like her REALLY WOULD like to return America to the 1950s if they could. THEY STILL LIVE THERE IN THEIR HEADS. That’s why they are so generally pissed off about everything. Everything that has happened during the 60s and afterward is an affront to their idea of how the US should be.
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> And of course, racism was MUCH more tolerated in the 1950s.

They can’t want the return of the 50s. Taxes were much higher then, and the banking and investment industries were much more highly regulated.

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**Author:** ![SeldomSeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@SeldomSeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeldomSeen)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18002 "2014-11-30T05:00:42Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> I have seen also that the preferred targets of a group of the deniers are scientists who are jews, I really do wonder when this will finally make the responsible Republicans (or I’m being too optimistic here?) realize that a chunk of the ones that are pushing for anti science regarding climate science are doing it also for other more unsavory reasons.

I suspect you are being too optimistic. Given that the christian right is so firmly ensconced in the Republican driver’s seat, and that these fundamentalist zealots have to constantly generate enmity to keep the faithful stirred up, I’ve speculated for some time that their next target of convenience will be Jews. Oh, not the Israelis, not the Zionists, the _real_ chosen people, but those librul agnostic reformed intellectual American and European Jews. Troublemakers. I’m already hearing stirrings of this from various sources out in fundy/evangel land, and fully expect to see this pernicious message take rootwithin the next few years.

In spite of all the rage rhetoric and general shit-slinging, the religionists have taken some serious hits recently. They’ve flat-out lost the SSM/gay rights issue, and their all-out efforts to quell reproductive rights met with only a few limited, mostly local successes before stalling. The war on science and the natural environment is steadily losing ground in the light of cold, hard fact. They have done considerable damage in their assault on public education and civil rights, but even there, they are encountering a great deal of push back. The fact is, the right wing is in serious need of a new _hate du jour_ and a sort of revised anti-semitism might be seen by some as meeting that need. Once that runs its course, one hopes the religious right will finally begin to feed on itself as it has historically done.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18003 "2014-11-30T17:53:57Z")

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Giuliani is [doubling down](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/giuliani-responsibility-black-community) on his blame-blacks-first strategy. What an asshole.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18004 "2014-11-30T20:40:28Z")

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> [@SeldomSeen](#):
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> I suspect you are being too optimistic. Given that the christian right is so firmly ensconced in the Republican driver’s seat, and that these fundamentalist zealots have to constantly generate enmity to keep the faithful stirred up, I’ve speculated for some time that their next target of convenience will be Jews. Oh, not the Israelis, not the Zionists, the _real_ chosen people, but those librul agnostic reformed intellectual American and European Jews. Troublemakers. I’m already hearing stirrings of this from various sources out in fundy/evangel land, and fully expect to see this pernicious message take rootwithin the next few years.
> 
> In spite of all the rage rhetoric and general shit-slinging, the religionists have taken some serious hits recently. They’ve flat-out lost the SSM/gay rights issue, and their all-out efforts to quell reproductive rights met with only a few limited, mostly local successes before stalling. The war on science and the natural environment is steadily losing ground in the light of cold, hard fact. They have done considerable damage in their assault on public education and civil rights, but even there, they are encountering a great deal of push back. The fact is, the right wing is in serious need of a new _hate du jour_ and a sort of revised anti-semitism might be seen by some as meeting that need. Once that runs its course, one hopes the religious right will finally begin to feed on itself as it has historically done.

There’s a hitch, though: the RR _need_ the Jews — at least the Jews in Israel — to rebuild the Temple so that the Second Coming can take place. After that, of course, they’re fair game unless they Accept Jesus Christ As Their Personal Lord And Saviour.

Before they get to the Jews, I would expect the RR to double or triple down on the Muslims. After all, even though the Jews are definitely second-class citizens, they are, like Christians, descended from Abraham; Muslims, on the other hand, are 100% non-Abrahamic heathens. (That whooshing noise you hear comes to you courtesy of some of my fundie relations.)

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18005 "2014-11-30T21:11:45Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> There’s a hitch, though: the RR _need_ the Jews — at least the Jews in Israel — to rebuild the Temple so that the Second Coming can take place. After that, of course, they’re fair game unless they Accept Jesus Christ As Their Personal Lord And Saviour.
> 
> Before they get to the Jews, I would expect the RR to double or triple down on the Muslims. After all, even though the Jews are definitely second-class citizens, they are, like Christians, descended from Abraham; Muslims, on the other hand, are 100% non-Abrahamic heathens. (That whooshing noise you hear comes to you courtesy of some of my fundie relations.)

Yeah, Muslims seem like a good choice. You get blacks and middle-easterners for the price of one, plus any radical white counter-culture types who convert are a bonus. After that I’d expect to see more screaming about the Mexican Menace literally at our doorstep as well as attempts to divide the whole Latino demographic.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18006 "2014-11-30T21:40:58Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> They can’t want the return of the 50s. Taxes were much higher then, and the banking and investment industries were much more highly regulated.

It was a typo. He meant the _other_ '50s.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18007 "2014-11-30T22:06:10Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> They can’t want the return of the 50s. Taxes were much higher then, and the banking and investment industries were much more highly regulated.

Taxes didn’t exist in the '50s. You never saw Ward Cleaver or Ozzie Nelson filling out his taxes.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18008 "2014-11-30T22:09:49Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> It was a typo. He meant the _other_ '50s.

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Taxes didn’t exist in the '50s. You never saw Ward Cleaver or Ozzie Nelson filling out his taxes.

\<hangs head\> My mistake. \</hh\>

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18009 "2014-11-30T22:32:12Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> I like how it say she took “many hours of prayer” to decide to apologize (and delete the comments).
> 
> Maybe instead of ‘many hours of prayer’ you should watch two seconds of the internet reacting to your crap?

“Many hours of prayer” is Republispeak for “I stuck my dick out a little too far and my boss is fucking furious with me for saying what every other Republican is thinking, and said my ass would be streamlined if I didn’t apologize, however lame it might be, but I’m really not sorry at all, bitches.”

Prayer, my ass; if she was actually a “christian”, she wouldn’t have said it in the first place.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18010 "2014-11-30T22:43:54Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> They can’t want the return of the 50s. Taxes were much higher then, and the banking and investment industries were much more highly regulated.

Yeah, I need a Republican to explain to me why our current 39% top tax rate is way too high, when the economy was booming under Eisenhower’s 90+% top tax rate.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18011 "2014-12-01T15:01:37Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> The clinically retarded don’t post here. Just dishonest, sociopathic dirtbags who are willing to lie about anything to further their own political goals.

. . . How does posting on a messageboard further a political goal?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18012 "2014-12-01T15:23:27Z")

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The political goal is to get a person or party elected. This requires public support. Public support is contingent upon public opinion. Social media presents opportunity to sway public opinion through posts and discussions. The SDMB is a social media. I’ll leave it to you to connect the dots.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18013 "2014-12-01T16:41:09Z")

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> [@SaharaTea](#):
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> Ms. Lauten: Dear God, am I a dick?
> 
> God: YES.
> 
> I suspect the fear of losing her job had a lot more to do with it than any “prayer.”

And [she’s gone](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12/01/gop-aide-resigns-after-online-digs-at-obama-daughters/). Another GOP unperson.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18014 "2014-12-01T17:48:46Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> They can’t want the return of the 50s. Taxes were much higher then, and the banking and investment industries were much more highly regulated.

Well good point. They want a return to the 1950s in terms of culture. Economically, these are the glory days, the new Gilded Age, now with more money.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18015 "2014-12-01T17:54:37Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> And [she’s gone](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12/01/gop-aide-resigns-after-online-digs-at-obama-daughters/). Another GOP unperson.

Oh, they’ll find a cozy, well-paid spot for her on some right wing think tank’s staff. Like the Mafia, the Republicans take care of their own even when the authorities catch them committing a crime for them.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18016 "2014-12-01T18:58:09Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> And [she’s gone](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12/01/gop-aide-resigns-after-online-digs-at-obama-daughters/). Another GOP unperson.

Now [the RNC communications director is blaming the MSM for letting the story go viral.](http://www.salon.com/2014/12/01/rnc_staffer_blames_mainstream_media_for_publicizing_obama_daughters_slut_shaming/)

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18017 "2014-12-01T19:33:11Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Taxes didn’t exist in the '50s. You never saw Ward Cleaver or Ozzie Nelson filling out his taxes.

Ozzie had troubles on March 15.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18018 "2014-12-01T20:20:54Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Now [the RNC communications director is blaming the MSM for letting the story go viral.](http://www.salon.com/2014/12/01/rnc_staffer_blames_mainstream_media_for_publicizing_obama_daughters_slut_shaming/)

“It’s your fault for paying attention to the shit we say!”

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18019 "2014-12-01T21:03:47Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> The clinically retarded don’t post here. Just dishonest, sociopathic dirtbags who are willing to lie about anything to further their own political goals.

> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> . . . How does posting on a messageboard further a political goal?

Indirectly. By getting practice at it, they become adept at figuring out how to phrase their nonsense in such a way that their heads don’t explode from trying to hold in the laughter. Then they can go out and spew it into the real world.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18020 "2014-12-01T22:14:08Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> And [she’s gone](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12/01/gop-aide-resigns-after-online-digs-at-obama-daughters/). Another GOP unperson.

And just to top off the whole thing, this woman who lost her job for criticizing the behavior of a pair of teenaged girls turns out to have been [arrested for shoplifting when she was 17](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/Elizabeth-Lauten-arrest-786543).

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