# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18081 "2014-12-08T20:18:50Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Well, it was until [some German TV station blew their cover](http://trekmovie.com/2011/05/06/geman-tv-fail-star-treks-maquis-not-involved-in-bin-laden-mission/)…

Wow, I so want to see an image of bin Laden about to be taken down by two Seals using batlefs.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18082 "2014-12-09T22:18:41Z")

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FOX News: “[CIA torture report was released today to drown out the news reports of Jonathan Gruber testifying before Congress](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/09/fox-news-torture-report-outnumbered-cia-obama_n_6296196.html?ir=Politics&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013).”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18083 "2014-12-10T18:02:01Z")

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[Rick Perry: Poverty is inevitable because the Bible says so.](http://www.salon.com/2014/12/10/rick_perry_the_bible_proves_that_poverty_is_inevitable/)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18084 "2014-12-10T18:05:29Z")

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[Peter King: The CIA’s interrogation techniques were “really very mild” – and the torture report was released to distract attention from Obamacare.](http://www.salon.com/2014/12/10/peter_kings_shameless_torture_defense_congressman_says_cia_techniques_were_very_mild/)

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18086 "2014-12-10T20:02:57Z")

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18087 "2014-12-10T21:07:57Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Rick Perry: Poverty is inevitable because the Bible says so.](http://www.salon.com/2014/12/10/rick_perry_the_bible_proves_that_poverty_is_inevitable/)

So now they can’t blame the poor cause God made them that way. 😃

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18088 "2014-12-10T21:23:09Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> So now they can’t blame the poor cause God made them that way. 😃

Well, you know, there’s Calvinism: Just because God made you to be damned and unsaveable doesn’t mean you don’t deserve damnation.

(Don’t know whether they teach that in Perry’s church.)

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18089 "2014-12-10T21:27:39Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Rick Perry: Poverty is inevitable because the Bible says so.](http://www.salon.com/2014/12/10/rick_perry_the_bible_proves_that_poverty_is_inevitable/)

I thought capitalism and wealth-building required poor?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18090 "2014-12-10T21:34:49Z")

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And sent his only begotten son, his beloved, to get nailed to a tree to save the souls God already knew were going to Hell. What a dick.

Or perhaps a heartless and merciless God was the only thing the Calvinists _could_ worship.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18091 "2014-12-11T00:06:17Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> And sent his only begotten son, his beloved, to get nailed to a tree to save the souls God already knew were going to Hell. What a dick.
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> Or perhaps a heartless and merciless God was the only thing the Calvinists _could_ worship.

Well, if you like being a prick to people, it’s only convenient to imagine a god who does the same.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18092 "2014-12-11T00:31:40Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> > [@elucidator](#):
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> > And sent his only begotten son, his beloved, to get nailed to a tree to save the souls God already knew were going to Hell. What a dick.
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> > Or perhaps a heartless and merciless God was the only thing the Calvinists _could_ worship.
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> Well, if you like being a prick to people, it’s only convenient to imagine a god who does the same.

Otherwise known as creating God in your own image and likeness.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18093 "2014-12-11T18:18:35Z")

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[Bush official: CIA interrogation tactics weren’t torture, but IRS investigations are.](http://www.salon.com/2014/12/11/bush_official_cia_interrogation_tactics_werent_torture_but_irs_investigations_are/)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18094 "2014-12-11T19:29:28Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Bush official: CIA interrogation tactics weren’t torture, but IRS investigations are.](http://www.salon.com/2014/12/11/bush_official_cia_interrogation_tactics_werent_torture_but_irs_investigations_are/)

The end of the article is the best part:

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> Lamentably, Burguiere did not follow up by verifying that Boykin would indeed prefer to be rectally fed hummus than to have the non-profit status of his political group scrutinized.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18095 "2014-12-11T21:27:54Z")

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I can’t eat Middle Eastern food, it makes me feel awful.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18096 "2014-12-11T23:23:53Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I can’t eat Middle Eastern food, it makes me feel awful.

You’re obviously not doing it right.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18097 "2014-12-11T23:28:17Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I can’t eat Middle Eastern food, it makes me feel awful.

That’s nothing. When we were kids, we had to shove it all up our rectums.

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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18098 "2014-12-12T00:00:58Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Rick Perry: Poverty is inevitable because the Bible says so.](http://www.salon.com/2014/12/10/rick_perry_the_bible_proves_that_poverty_is_inevitable/)

Rick Perry and the Bible sound-bite. Good for him and his Bible believing constituents.

Except for one little pesky footnote

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> Matthew 26–11 The poor you will always have with you,[a] but you will not always have me.
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> Footnote : [a] Matthew 26:11-- See Deuteronomy 15:11
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> (From the NIV)

Let’s see…

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> Deuteronomy Chapter 15 – 7 If anyone is poor among your fellow Israelites in any of the towns of the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward them. 8 Rather, be openhanded and freely lend them whatever they need. 9 Be careful not to harbor this wicked thought: “The seventh year, the year for canceling debts, is near,” so that you do not show ill will toward the needy among your fellow Israelites and give them nothing. They may then appeal to the Lord against you, and you will be found guilty of sin. 10 Give generously to them and do so without a grudging heart; then because of this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in everything you put your hand to. 11 \*\*There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your fellow Israelites who are poor and needy in your land. \*\*(NIV)

[Homer Simpson]Stoopid context.[/Homer Simpson]

Oops. I guess Rick forgot about the generosity part, but hey, the poor, you know, that’s just the way it is and there’s nothing you can do about it. Besides “_command you_” is open to interpretation as in the singular sense, that you help your neighbor with charity; as opposed to the plural sense, which some would take to mean _the_ government, and obviously, that’s what’s not commanded here because America is awesome!

But let’s back up to the beginning of Chapter 15

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> Deuteronomy Chapter 15 – 1 At the end of every seven years you must cancel debts. 2 This is how it is to be done: Every creditor shall cancel any loan they have made to a fellow Israelite. They shall not require payment from anyone among their own people, because the Lord’s time for canceling debts has been proclaimed. 3 You may require payment from a foreigner, but you must cancel any debt your fellow Israelite owes you. **4 However, there need be no poor people among you, for in the land the Lord your God is giving you to possess as your inheritance, he will richly bless you, 5 if only you fully obey the Lord your God and are careful to follow all these commands I am giving you today.** 6 For the Lord your God will bless you as he has promised, and you will lend to many nations but will borrow from none. You will rule over many nations but none will rule over you.

Moses. Who the hell does he think he is?

If Perry wants to take the Bible “literally,” then it’s fair game to ask why is Texas in the top 10 for poorest states in the US? Wouldn’t the governor be fearful of angering G-d and ensuring he did everything possible to reduce poverty?

Or, do we need to install more Ten Commandments displays in the government buildings? Would that alleviate the poverty?

It’s so hard to be a Bible believing Texas governor.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18099 "2014-12-12T00:14:54Z")

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> [@user\_hostile](#):
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> Moses. Who the hell does he think he is?

Well, of course. The **New** Testament obviously supersedes the Old Testament. They just left in that obsolete stuff so that we could easily see how much better the new stuff is. I mean, really, a whole book dedicated to copulation? _ick_

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18100 "2014-12-12T00:36:22Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> That’s nothing. When we were kids, we had to shove it all up our rectums.

'Ere now, you had rectums? All we had were corks, and glad to have them! _Damned_ glad, you have no idea…

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18101 "2014-12-12T07:17:30Z")

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I bring you: [Rick Perry: Presidential Campaign's 'Not an IQ Test'](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/rick-perry-presidential-campaigns-not-iq-test-n266031)  
“Running for the presidency’s not an IQ test. It is a test of an individual’s resolve. It’s a test of an individual’s philosophy. It’s a test of an individual’s life’s experiences,” Perry said in an interview at the Governor’s Mansion, which he’s leaving as his term ends. “And I think Americans are really ready for a leader that will give them a great hope about the future.”

What about the hope you gave Texas. BIG EMPLOYMENT GAINS in minimum wage jobs. NO INCOME TAX but middle income Texans pay more total taxes than Californians… EDUCATIONAL REFORM - massive cuts and Christian influence in history books.

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