# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18202 "2014-12-31T21:34:30Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Why don’t they want a black James Bond? Three words-White Bond Girls.

I have to admit that strikes me as the biggest likely hurdle to a black James Bond’s box office success.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18203 "2015-01-01T04:32:40Z")

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So…Halle Berry as Bond girl again?

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18204 "2015-01-01T06:06:28Z")

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Porn on the internet has been awash (if that’s the right word) for years with images and videos of black men fucking white women. Often, black men with giant cocks fucking tiny white women. All of whom appear to be having a very good time. So … would anyone really care other than the hardcore bigots? (Who are probably big customers of said porn, in secret of course.)

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18205 "2015-01-01T06:36:42Z")

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I’m sure some would, yes.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18206 "2015-01-01T15:41:25Z")

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Bloomberg banned cannoli? How does that work?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18207 "2015-01-01T16:19:32Z")

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_Take the gun. Leave the cannoli._

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18208 "2015-01-01T17:32:30Z")

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[http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/01/01/3607416/4-things-2015-obama-reelected/](http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/01/01/3607416/4-things-2015-obama-reelected/)

**1. Gas was supposed to cost $5.45 per gallon.**

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> In March 2012, on the floor of the United States Senate, Mike Lee (R-UT) predicted that if Obama was reelected gas would cost $5.45 per gallon by the start 2015. Lee said that gas prices would rise 5 cents for every month Obama was in office, ultimately reaching $6.60 per gallon.
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> Lee was not alone. Newt Gingrich, running for the GOP nomination, predicted that if Obama was reelected he would push gas to “$10 a gallon.”

**2. Unemployment was supposed to be stuck at over 8%**

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> In September 2012, Mitt Romney predicted that if Obama is reelected “you’re going to see chronic high unemployment continue four years or longer.” At the time, the unemployment rate was 8.1% and had been between 8.1% and 8.3% for the entire year.

**3. The stock market was supposed to crash**

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> On Bloomberg TV, investor Marc Faber predicted that, because of Obama’s reelection, the stock market would drop at least 20%. According to Faber, “Republicans understand the problem of excessive debt better than Mr. Obama who basically doesn’t care about piling up debt.” Faber joked that investors seeking to protect their assets should “buy themselves a machine gun.”

**4. The entire U.S. economy was supposed to collapse**

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> Rush Limbaugh predicted that “the country’s economy is going to collapse if Obama is re-elected.” Limbaugh was confident in his prediction: “There’s no if about this. And it’s gonna be ugly. It’s gonna be gut wrenching, but it will happen.”
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> The economic freefall would begin, according to Limbaugh, because “California is going to declare bankruptcy” and Obama would force states like Texas to “bail them out.” California currently has a $4 billion budget surplus.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18209 "2015-01-01T18:14:34Z")

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You do understand, don’t you, that all these “gains” are complete fabrications and the result of the government cooking the books, don’t you? Come _on_, sheeple!

Just channeling the Usual Suspects who leap to the barricades whenever the local birdcage-liner publishes anything even remotely resembling good economic news.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18210 "2015-01-01T18:42:06Z")

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Nonsense, that would be stupid! They will, of course, point out the obvious truth that the economic recovery is a direct result of recent mid-term elections and reflects the renewed confidence of the American people in the Republican Party and its leadership.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18211 "2015-01-01T19:35:31Z")

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[quote=“Fear\_Itself, post:18208, topic:490897”]

[http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/01/01/3607416/4-things-2015-obama-reelected/](http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/01/01/3607416/4-things-2015-obama-reelected/)

**1. Gas was supposed to cost $5.45 per gallon.**

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Gas prices are my favorite example of the Fox News types deliberately misleading people, while technically telling the truth. They have all kinds of charts that show how gas prices dramatically increased after Obama took office in 2009.

What they don’t show is that due to the economic collapse of 2008, gas prices collapsed as well, falling from $4.10/gal in July 2008 to $1.59/gal in December 2008, the first time they had been below $2 since February 2005, and the first time since June 2007 they had been below $3 for more than a few weeks. So although starting the graph from when Obama took office seems logical, it obscures the fact that prices were just returning to normal, not suddenly reaching new highs. In fact, prices under Obama have never been as high as they were in July 2008.

The [graph of gas prices](http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx) around the 2008 election has to be seen to be believed — it’s such a deep, sharp valley that it’s hard not to believe that, economic collapse aside, the oil companies were doing everything they could to help McCain win, and then raised prices to recoup their losses immediately after Obama won.

It’s also a fact that all through the Clinton administration (except for another suspicious spike right around the 2000 election), oil prices averaged around $30/bbl, and were as low as $16. But when Bush invaded Iraq (and one of the reasons given was to insure a supply of cheap oil) the prices took off, and never looked back, to the point where today people are giddy over $50 oil, and are used to it being over $100.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18212 "2015-01-01T22:37:26Z")

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[Sovereign citizen dies after refusing to present ID at an animal shelter when turning in a stray animal.](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/police-fatally-shoot-sovereign-citizen-after-he-refuses-to-show-id-when-turning-over-stray-animal/#.VKW-ooYo07M.facebook)

Was it worth it?

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18213 "2015-01-01T23:14:59Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Sovereign citizen dies after refusing to present ID at an animal shelter when turning in a stray animal.](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/police-fatally-shoot-sovereign-citizen-after-he-refuses-to-show-id-when-turning-over-stray-animal/#.VKW-ooYo07M.facebook)
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> Was it worth it?

If that guy were black he’d be dead. What?

I don’t think this guy was a Republican.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2015, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18214 "2015-01-02T00:07:22Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Sovereign citizen dies after refusing to present ID at an animal shelter when turning in a stray animal.](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/police-fatally-shoot-sovereign-citizen-after-he-refuses-to-show-id-when-turning-over-stray-animal/#.VKW-ooYo07M.facebook)
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> Was it worth it?

1. Not a Republican.
2. He was in the right.
3. Right up until he started struggling with the police.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18215 "2015-01-02T00:14:30Z")

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Seems like a tasing and maybe a few whacks with a nightstick would have sufficed.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18216 "2015-01-02T00:19:54Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> 1. Not a Republican.
> 2. He was in the right.
> 3. Right up until he started struggling with the police.

In what was was he in the right?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18217 "2015-01-02T00:41:44Z")

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Not showing his ID. “Show me your papers!” isn’t quite here in Murka yet. Close, but not quite. He should have just walked away.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2015, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18218 "2015-01-02T00:45:47Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Not showing his ID. “Show me your papers!” isn’t quite here in Murka yet. Close, but not quite. He should have just walked away.

If he took his dog with him, I’m sure they would have no problem with that. I suspect anonymous abandoning of pets is the issue here.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18219 "2015-01-02T01:01:51Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> 1. He was in the right.

Really? He had paperwork stating that, as a citizen, he was subject to no law at any level. One wonders: which authority issues such paperwork and what colour crayon was used?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18220 "2015-01-02T01:15:26Z")

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Again, not defending the nutball for being a nutball. But there is no law that says you have to produce ID upon demand. When the clerk at the shelter demanded ID, he should have just walked away, taking the stray dog with him if necessary.

**Fear Itself** probably has it right. The shelter likely requires ID to prevent all sorts of possible abuses by people against animals.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18221 "2015-01-02T02:05:42Z")

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The guy seems like a bozo, but this probably belongs in the controversial encounters between police and civilians thread. How does that incident get so out of hand that the cops wind up killing him?

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