# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 927
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18522 "2015-01-19T18:51:21Z")
Florida state Senator Alan Hays, of some party or another, has introduced SB96, which would [make Dinesh D’Souza’s mockumentary _America: Imagine a World without Her_ required viewing for students](http://www.christianpost.com/news/florida-senator-wants-bill-making-dinesh-dsouzas-america-movie-required-viewing-for-teens-in-state-123886/) in public Schools. Next up, schools will mandate students apply fact-repellant hairspray before class. ---
**Author:** ![random6x7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8baadc/32.png) [@random6x7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/random6x7)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18523 "2015-01-19T19:59:53Z")
I’m a little late to this party, but fuck it. **adaher** , do you even _know_ what the federal regulations are regarding construction? I’m guessing not. I work in cultural resource management, where we are hired to help developers follow the archaeological/cultural regulations of the state and federal governments. Most of the laypeople I’ve come across have no clue what the regulations are, assume they are much stricter than they actually are, and have no idea that they work to help _them_ as well. I’ve had coworkers _shot at_ by people thinking the government is coming to take their land away. Keystone XL is, by the way, a great example of how the regulations are supposed to work. Part of the law is that the opinions of interested parties (everyone potentially affected by the project) have to be considered, or at least heard. Keystone is a huge project potentially affecting millions of people. You may not like that requirement right now, but, believe me, if the pipeline is approved and if for some reason it’s routed through your back yard, you’d want your say. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18524 "2015-01-19T20:05:15Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Yep. That’s why Greg Abbott won 41% of the Latino vote in the TX gubernatorial race. Creative vote counting? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18525 "2015-01-19T20:23:51Z")
Rand Paul doesn’t think most people on disability should get it. “[So they have a bad back. Most people over 40 have a bad back](http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/01/14/3611776/rand-paul-disability/).” Asshat. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18526 "2015-01-19T20:29:30Z")
[Bobby Jindal is planning on making a speech _in London_ attacking the non-existant no-go zones in the UK.](http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/jindal-condemns-imaginary-no-go-zones) ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18527 "2015-01-19T20:33:08Z")
> [@DeptfordX](#): > > . Possibly a tabloid might get ahold of the story in the aftermath and be uncomplimentary, but he’s probably going to get away with it. Just been on CNN and [MSNBC](http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bobby-jindal-talks-no-go-zones-demands-immigrants-assimilate) > [@](#): > > “I’m all for legal immigration where people want to strengthen America, learn our values, learn our language, work hard, get an education and improve themselves and improve our economy,” he said. “[But] in many ways, you’re looking at folks that want to come and, in some ways, they want to overturn our culture they want to come in and almost colonize our countries.” I guess he’s going to start his purge by talking out those pesky Cajun subversives ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18528 "2015-01-19T20:40:45Z")
Following a speech he gave in London Monday that referenced the discredited claims of “no-go zones” for non-Muslims in Britain, Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA) continued to defend his point to a CNN reporter who pressed him for evidence. In his remarks, Jindal said, “It is startling to think that any country would allow, even unofficially, for a so called ‘no-go zone.’ The idea that a free country would allow for specific areas of its country to operate in an autonomous way that is not free and is in direct opposition to its laws is hard to fathom.” But later, he was confronted by CNN’s Max Foster to back up these claims. “Look, I’ve heard from folks here that there are neighborhoods where women don’t feel comfortable going in without veils,” Jindal said. “That’s wrong. We all know that there are neighborhoods where police are less likely to go into.” “ **But you need to have proper, sort of, facts to back that up** ,” Foster replied, saying he, **as a British man, has never heard of “no-go zones** ” for non-Muslims. > **[Bobby Jindal Grilled on Muslim No-Go Zones CNN Reporter](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-reporter-confronts-jindal-for-exaggerating-muslim-no-go-zones/)** > > Following a speech he gave in London Monday that referenced the discredited claims of "no-go zones" for non-Muslims in Britain, Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA) continued to defend his point to a CNN reporter who pressed him for evidence. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18529 "2015-01-19T20:43:29Z")
Apparently, Mr. Jindal has forgotten that BNP members cannot vote in US elections… ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18530 "2015-01-19T21:57:02Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Apparently, Mr. Jindal has forgotten that BNP members cannot vote in US elections… He’s also apparently forgotten that British\* reporters have a reputation for aggressive questioning. He’s used to the softballs that the American press throws. \*This is probably also true of other countries, but I’m thinking British because that’s where he is, and that’s where George W. Bush was unhappy to find out that the reporter wanted him to provide some facts to back up his statements. (Unless that was Ireland, but the aggressiveness is the same.) ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18531 "2015-01-19T23:30:22Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Rand Paul doesn’t think most people on disability should get it. “[So they have a bad back. Most people over 40 have a bad back](http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/01/14/3611776/rand-paul-disability/).” > > Asshat. He’s simply making the point that a lot of people on disability are not disabled, and thus many are taking advantage of the system. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18532 "2015-01-19T23:36:49Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > He’s simply making the point that a lot of people on disability are not disabled, and thus many are taking advantage of the system. Uh, no, he isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18533 "2015-01-19T23:41:53Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > He’s simply making the point that a lot of people on disability are not disabled, and thus many are taking advantage of the system. I’ll bet there are almost as many disability fraudsters as there are fraudulent voters. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18534 "2015-01-19T23:49:54Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > He’s simply making the point that a lot of people on disability are not disabled, and thus many are taking advantage of the system. No, or at least, not just that. He really doesn’t understand what it’s like to be poor. It’s like when Ann Romney talked about her breast cancer, and said something about how everybody’s equal in a situation like that. Well no, they’re not. If you’re poor and don’t have health insurance, you likely won’t get it diagnosed early enough to do much good, and even if you do, you might have to choose between buying medicine and buying food each month. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18535 "2015-01-19T23:54:14Z")
> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > I’ll bet there are almost as many disability fraudsters as there are fraudulent voters. To be fair, disability fraud is a real problem, unlike voter fraud. But the difference between left and right wingers is that while both agree that a perfect system is impossible, left wingers would rather let some people defraud the system than have any truly needy people go without help, while the right wingers would rather have some needy people go without help than allow anyone to defraud the system. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18536 "2015-01-19T23:55:14Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > No, or at least, not just that. He really doesn’t understand what it’s like to be poor. > > It’s like when Ann Romney talked about her breast cancer, and said something about how everybody’s equal in a situation like that. > > Well no, they’re not. If you’re poor and don’t have health insurance, you likely won’t get it diagnosed early enough to do much good, and even if you do, you might have to choose between buying medicine and buying food each month. I’ve a friend who died from breast cancer because she couldn’t afford health insurance and couldn’t afford health care without it. The only time she got treated was when things got so bad she had to go to the emergency room, when she’d be admitted and stabilized and then discharged. No follow-up care. They actually found it early enough that if she \*could \*have afforded the treatment, she might still be alive. So yeah, fuck the Romneys. They know not what they say. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18537 "2015-01-20T00:00:22Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > To be fair, disability fraud is a real problem, unlike voter fraud. To be fair, fuck you, you ignorant asshat. [Less than 1% of claims are fraudulent](http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/15/politics/rand-paul-factchecked/). Unless you have a better source that the Social Security Administration, please go back to masturbating over Bill O’Reilly. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18538 "2015-01-20T00:21:05Z")
> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > To be fair, fuck you, you ignorant asshat. > > [Less than 1% of claims are fraudulent](http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/15/politics/rand-paul-factchecked/). > > Unless you have a better source that the Social Security Administration, please go back to masturbating over Bill O’Reilly. Geez, take a Tums. Your link says there were thousands of confirmed fraudulent disability claims in 2012, and gives no indication that it was an atypical year. Confirmed voter fraud cases, by contrast, are often not even in the double digits. And each fraudulent disability claim costs the taxpayers real money, while AFAIK there haven’t been any recent examples of voter fraud changing the outcome of an election. I’m well aware that “AFAIK” isn’t very far, though. That said, I hadn’t read the link before my previous post, so I didn’t realize RP was talking only about SS. I thought he was talking about all kinds of civil service jobs, and I had in mind a fairly notorious case in my city a few years ago where cops who were drawing 100% disability were photographed tossing around cement bags in their construction business. I regret the error. ETA: and I guess the post you were responding to didn’t make it clear that I’m a left-winger, although the post right before it should have. In other words, I vehemently disagree with Rand Paul. ETAA: and if I were going to masturbate over a Fox News host, it would be Megyn Kelly. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18539 "2015-01-20T00:27:13Z")
[Moderating] **Tapioca** , saying “fuck you” to other posters is a violation of the Pit’s language rules. Please avoid doing this in the future. No warning issued. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18540 "2015-01-20T00:51:20Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > He’s simply making the point that a lot of people on disability are not disabled, and thus many are taking advantage of the system. It may surprise you to know that a lot of them are military retirees. I knew a lot of perfectly healthy guys who went out with 20-50% disability and laughed about it. I was told that I should claim disability for my back problems (which are minor). I don’t know how anybody can do that in good conscience. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18541 "2015-01-20T01:31:01Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > It may surprise you to know that a lot of them are military retirees. I knew a lot of perfectly healthy guys who went out with 20-50% disability and laughed about it. I was told that I should claim disability for my back problems (which are minor). I don’t know how anybody can do that in good conscience. And again, unless I’m mistaken, military disabilities would not show up in Social Security stats. So I will clarify the statement that generated a “fuck you” by saying that military, civil service, and SS disability fraud combined are a much, much larger problem than voter fraud. But I still don’t want to see any “reforms” that make it difficult for genuinely disabled people to get help. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=926) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=928)