# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18702 "2015-01-25T16:16:58Z")

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Too late, _[World News Daily](http://www.wnd.com/)_ beat you to it.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18703 "2015-01-25T17:11:46Z")

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Ah, glorious _[schadenfreude](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/25/us/politics/republican-governors-buck-party-line-on-raising-taxes.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0)_. The slash taxes and cut spending crowd are now realizing that all those bills that the state has can’t be paid without revenue, and that when you cut spending without any thought being put into it, you can’t pay for necessary services. Existing pensions and other essential operating costs have to be funded. These people campaigned on cut-state-income-tax platforms, then got a glimpse of the yawning chasm at their feet and rapidly back-pedaled. Even the dipshit from Kansas is having to rethink his idiotic policies.

Grover Norquist, that hero of fucktards everywhere, is condemning them, as are the Tea Baggers in Congress who don’t have to be bothered by dwindling quality of life in their far-flung empires.

In other news, I heartily endorse the blackballing of **adaher** in this thread (which I think I proposed a page or two back). He’s a fucking troll of the worst kind, whose mission in life here is to disrupt, derail, and spread ignorance with a trowel.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18704 "2015-01-25T18:04:42Z")

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> [@user\_hostile](#):
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> Too late, _[World News Daily](http://www.wnd.com/)_ beat you to it.

No, just stop that. You are going to confuse people. wnd\*\*.\*\*com is World **Net** Daily. There is no “World News Daily”, though there appears to be an alliumesqe

> [@"\[World](#):
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> ([http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/star-wars-episode-vii-disney-to-cut-all-sexually-implicit-scenes-between-chewbacca-and-c3p0/](http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/star-wars-episode-vii-disney-to-cut-all-sexually-implicit-scenes-between-chewbacca-and-c3p0/))"]After weeks of controversy, movie director J.J. Abrams and the Disney studios have published a statement announcing that they were going to cut the various scenes involving the characters of C3P0 and Chewbacca and described as sexually implicit, from the final version Stars Wars Episode VII.  
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> “This was not clumsy, this was outraging!” says reverend James O’Neal, St. Thomas Baptist Church. ”Nobody wants to see a giant ape flirt with a gay robot. This kind of blasphemy can certainly corrupt the minds of America’s youth and we have to stop it! Disney movies are supposed to be made for children, for God’s sake!”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18705 "2015-01-25T18:21:49Z")

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“alliumesqe?” Da fuq?

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18706 "2015-01-25T18:22:28Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Ah, glorious _[schadenfreude](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/25/us/politics/republican-governors-buck-party-line-on-raising-taxes.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0)_. The slash taxes and cut spending crowd are now realizing that all those bills that the state has can’t be paid without revenue, and that when you cut spending without any thought being put into it, you can’t pay for necessary services. Existing pensions and other essential operating costs have to be funded. These people campaigned on cut-state-income-tax platforms, then got a glimpse of the yawning chasm at their feet and rapidly back-pedaled. Even the dipshit from Kansas is having to rethink his idiotic policies.
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> Grover Norquist, that hero of fucktards everywhere, is condemning them, as are the Tea Baggers in Congress who don’t have to be bothered by dwindling quality of life in their far-flung empires. . . .

The problem is that the tax hikes proposed are mainly regressive. Sales taxes and sin taxes being the two biggest. No doubt they’ll also promote more gambling.

All those things bother the Kochs not one iota.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18707 "2015-01-25T18:32:43Z")

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> [@Mince](#):
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> That a senator doesn’t understand, or who purposely ignores, the concept of supersedence, is pretty frightening. Even more so that his lawyer does the same. Then there’s the fundamental flaw of believing you have such privilege that you can engage in dangerous activity without accountability. Even if he somehow won this case, there is no way he sees another term.

I think you underestimate the stupidity of gap tooth voters. In Tennessee the anti-abortion, holier than thou guy who forced two of his mistresses to have abortions got re-elected easily.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18708 "2015-01-25T18:33:37Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> That would be your side. Not that Republicans don’t do it, but geez, have some self-awareness. The entire purpose of the progressive movement has been to diagnose what’s wrong with society morally and fix it while patting yourselves on the back for your superior morality.

I believe the thread you are looking for is “Stupid Liberal ideas of the day”. They’d love to have you; been rather a dearth of contributions so far.

Down the hall, second door on the left (of course).

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18709 "2015-01-25T18:41:45Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> The problem is that the tax hikes proposed are mainly regressive. Sales taxes and sin taxes being the two biggest. No doubt they’ll also promote more gambling.
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> All those things bother the Kochs not one iota.

Of course. They know that raising (or instituting, in the case of Alaska) an income tax would never make it into law, and would terminate their careers in short order. Governing on the right is mostly about protecting one’s own paycheck first and foremost.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18710 "2015-01-25T19:04:41Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> No, just stop that. You are going to confuse people. wnd\*\*.\*\*com is World **Net** Daily. There is no “World News Daily”, though there appears to be an alliumesqe

Correction: It is really [World Nut Daily](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/WND) 🙂

And that article from RationalWiki is one of the few times I totally approve of the snark directed to the subject.

WND does deserve to be laughed at:  
(Photo of the White House press secretary bending down for the laughter)

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> White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs laughs at a “serious” question from a WorldNetDaily reporter asking about Obama’s birth certificate.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18711 "2015-01-25T19:23:06Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> “alliumesqe?” Da fuq?

[Da _Allium cepa._](http://www.theonion.com/)

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18712 "2015-01-25T20:34:55Z")

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> [@Mann\_Slaughter](#):
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> [Kentucky Republican says 1891 law lets him drive drunk while he’s in office](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/kentucky-republican-says-1891-law-lets-him-drive-drunk-while-hes-in-office/)
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> Technically, he’s arguing that a nearly 125-year old law (which was written before automobiles became all the rage) allows him to drive drunk and speed if he’s going to or returning from a House session.
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> Let’s hope the judge isn’t buying what this guy’s selling.

Well it’s not so much a law as it is a provision of the KY Constitution. I don’t think the age of it should factor in here as we legal arguments are made constantly on Constituional amendments almost twice as old, having to do with technology the founding fathers couldn’t have possibly imagined at the time of its writing.

And who knows? On its face, it may be be a reasonable argument, with two caveats.

1. is, or could, drunk driving in KY be a felony? If so, this argument is inapplicable.

2. by making this argument, his lawyer is admitting that this guy was consuming alcohol and over the legal limit during a time when he was supposed to be on duty serving the public. To me, that can’t play well. But what do I know? I’m not a Kentucky voter.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18713 "2015-01-26T07:37:26Z")

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This seems the most logical place to ask…

What’s this I hear about Benjamin Netanyahu being invited to address congress and Obama not knowing about it?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18714 "2015-01-26T07:41:03Z")

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As far as I’m concerned, if the President is going to take the attitude that he can go around Congress to make changes to law he doesn’t like, Congress can conduct foreign policy without involving the President.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18715 "2015-01-26T08:22:29Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> As far as I’m concerned, if the President is going to take the attitude that he can go around Congress to make changes to law he doesn’t like, Congress can conduct foreign policy without involving the President.

Jew lover.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18716 "2015-01-26T08:23:27Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> As far as I’m concerned, if the President is going to take the attitude that he can go around Congress to make changes to law he doesn’t like, Congress can conduct foreign policy without involving the President.

Remember how the Republicans in Congress wanted to preface every action they took with a citation from the Constitution granting them the authority to do what they were doing?

Yeah, neither do they.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18717 "2015-01-26T11:43:07Z")

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Actually, they can have whoever they want speak before Congress. Unlike many of the President’s actions, there is no question at all about the legality of what they are doing. And Congress’ foreign policy powers, should they choose to exercise them, are every bit as expansive as their commerce powers. Congress has just historically chosen to defer to the executive(especially since there’s no money in foreign policy for their constituents). But if the President is going to go around Congress when Congress won’t enact his domestic policy desires, they can just go around the President when he’s not conducting foreign policy as they desire.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18718 "2015-01-26T11:47:16Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Jew lover.

Hey, don’t confuse Netanyahu fandom with Jew-loving.

Have we established yet whether “Netanyahu” is a Hebrew name or a Houyhnhnm one? Because the meaning of -yahu is _very_ different in those two languages. 😛

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18719 "2015-01-26T11:54:22Z")

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> [@bengangmo](#):
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> This seems the most logical place to ask…
> 
> What’s this I hear about Benjamin Netanyahu being invited to address congress and Obama not knowing about it?

[Here.](http://www.vox.com/2015/1/21/7866089/netanyahu-boehner-congress)  
Even some of Fox News commentators are taking [Obama’s side.](http://www.vox.com/2015/1/24/7884311/netanyahu-boehner-fox-news)

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18720 "2015-01-26T11:58:13Z")

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In a vacuum, I’d agree with Fox. I was angry when Eric Cantor went to Israel to conduct some freelance foreign policy that was at odds with the President’s.

However, this is the whole Congress, not just individual Congressmen, and I’d bet a LOT of Democrats support this move. Secondly, Congress and the Presidency are co-equal. If the President seeks to expand his power to include the ability to alter legislation as he sees fit, then Congress has every right to test the limits of its foreign policy powers. The President abandoned proper separation of powers first. Let’s see how he likes being undermined the same way he has undermined the laws Congress has duly passed, in bipartisan fashion.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18721 "2015-01-26T12:26:17Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> In a vacuum, I’d agree with Fox. I was angry when Eric Cantor went to Israel to conduct some freelance foreign policy that was at odds with the President’s.
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> However, this is the whole Congress, not just individual Congressmen, and I’d bet a LOT of Democrats support this move. Secondly, Congress and the Presidency are co-equal. If the President seeks to expand his power to include the ability to alter legislation as he sees fit, then Congress has every right to test the limits of its foreign policy powers. The President abandoned proper separation of powers first. Let’s see how he likes being undermined the same way he has undermined the laws Congress has duly passed, in bipartisan fashion.

This isn’t about legal criticism – it’s just a stupid move. It makes it look like the Republicans are trying to help Netanyahu win his election, and Netanyahu is trying to hurt Obama politically (probably because this is actually what’s going on!). Former Israeli ambassador Michael Oren (who was actually nominated by Netanyahu!) is heavily criticizing the move, and he’s not the only one by far.

The speech is 6 weeks away – I think there’s a good chance Netanyahu cancels or “reschedules”. Good analysis [here](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-step-too-far--2).

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