# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18942 "2015-02-03T19:00:35Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Between this story and the above-noted anti-vaxxer statements, it would seem that “GOP” stands for “Guardians Of Pestilence”:

I love how the guys solution to getting rid of burdensome regulations such as employees having to wash their hands is to have another regulation requiring posting a warning that they don’t do this. "i believe their should be regulation, they just should be stupid ones that don’t handle the problem’

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18943 "2015-02-03T19:28:30Z")

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Pat Boone claims that [Obama is planning on releasing all murderers from prison so that they can help the illegal aliens to take over the country and make it Socialist, or Communist.](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/pat-boone-thinks-obama-will-release-all-murderers)

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18944 "2015-02-03T19:41:32Z")

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I didn’t realize criminals all shared the same political viewpoint.

I guess if a good ole boy from the deep south murders someone just to watch them die, they are actually in support of a centralized controlled economy with egalitarian aims.

Makes total sense, you know, if you’ve been hit repeatedly in the head with a fucking hammer.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18945 "2015-02-03T19:43:37Z")

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And another one joins the Pro-Pestilence Caucus:

[GOP rep: Vaccinating children should be parents’ choice](http://www.msnbc.com/jose-diaz-balart/gop-rep-vaccinating-children-should-be-parents-choice)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18946 "2015-02-03T19:46:12Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Pat Boone claims that [Obama is planning on releasing all murderers from prison so that they can help the illegal aliens to take over the country and make it Socialist, or Communist.](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/pat-boone-thinks-obama-will-release-all-murderers)

Some years back, he put out an album of “metal” music. Heard some. Didn’t much like metal before that, but then…

But, to be fair, his cover of “Tutti Fruitti” marked a major advance in White Culture.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18947 "2015-02-03T19:57:36Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> And another one joins the Pro-Pestilence Caucus:
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> [GOP rep: Vaccinating children should be parents’ choice](http://www.msnbc.com/jose-diaz-balart/gop-rep-vaccinating-children-should-be-parents-choice)

So this guy says, it should be the parents’ choice, but it’s OK if school districts bar enrollment of unvaccinated kids. Which is…the status quo. No one is forced to have their kids vaccinated today. Some schools/states say you have to be vaccinated to enroll. So, he’s coming out in favor of what we’re already doing, but still throwing a bone to the anti-vax crowd. Jesus.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18948 "2015-02-03T20:11:32Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Pat Boone claims that [Obama is planning on releasing all murderers from prison so that they can help the illegal aliens to take over the country and make it Socialist, or Communist.](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/pat-boone-thinks-obama-will-release-all-murderers)

> [@](#):
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> This is the 50th anniversary of the film “Doctor Strangelove.” Ironic, if not prescient.

Indeed it is, Pat, indeed it is. Because the plot involves people overreacting to a threat that was made up to dupe them.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18949 "2015-02-03T20:21:44Z")

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[From Georgia, another textbook fight.](http://www.salon.com/2015/02/03/the_rights_textbook_freakout_what_the_fight_over_new_a_p_history_standards_is_really_about/) This one’s about AP U.S. History.

> [@](#):
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> Before get ahead ourselves, though, let’s turn back to Georgia, and the substance of Sen. Ligon’s complaints. Echoing the rhetoric that’s come the new APUSH standard’s critics, Ligon charges that the updated framework is unacceptable because, the Gainesville Times reports, it “minimizes discussion of America’s Founding Fathers, the principles of the Declaration of Independence, [and] the religious influences on our nation’s history.” The resolution also slams the new APUSH for presenting a “biased and inaccurate view” of the role played by settlers in the country’s first century, as well as the role played by the U.S. government during the Cold War and the Great Depression. The College Board, to its credit, has previously responded strongly to claims such as these, arguing that the framework’s opponents have displayed “a blatant disregard for the facts.”
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> With all the talk of historical accuracy and facts (and “our nation’s historical integrity,” as Georgia’s superintendent Richard Woods incoherently put it), you’d figure the issue could be settled with relative ease. If it’s all empirical, after all, then you could simply rely on objective truth to resolve the dispute. But the fight here isn’t really about something as prosaic and technocratic as making sure Georgia’s AP students know when so-and-so was born, or when this or that war was ended. As former history teacher Larry Krieger, one of the leading organizers against the new APUSH framework, revealed in an October interview with TPM, it’s how kids are socialized — not how they’re educated — that’s in question.
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> Krieger is savvy enough in his conversation with TPM reporter Caitlin MacNeal to avoid placing his cause in a conservative frame. (He’s not persuasive on this point; but at least he tries.) Yet when he explains why the framework worries him so much, he reveals quite immediately that he’s got bigger things on his mind than simple historical truth. “[T]he concept of American exceptionalism has been deliberately scrubbed out of this document,” Krieger tells TPM. Arguing that the U.S. deploys troops around the world because they are “the defenders of liberty and freedom,” Krieger says if the College Board were to “scrub” American exceptionalism from APUSH, it would be “a real egregious injustice.”

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18950 "2015-02-03T20:31:54Z")

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Why is nationalism and jingoism considered virtuous?

I’m loyal to the United States, but I don’t suck on its cock, knowing full well it just banged a disease-ridden hooker. Worship and praise for the country under all circumstances and spreading the lie that it is number one in every category just strikes me as being a dumbass. That kind of blind zeal is how you get the nonsense that so and so can’t be president because they’re not wearing a flag pin. (But your guy didn’t start wearing a flag pin until this week) …shut up, commie!

Why are we trying to re-write history to make sure that no one inside the United States knows its history? Aren’t our kids just going to look like fucktards when they interact with people outside of our country who haven’t been indoctrinated North Korean-style?

Is that it? We’re too intelligent to simply nuke North Korea, so we’ll become just like them in order to beat them at their own insane game?

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18951 "2015-02-03T20:39:17Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> I’m loyal to the United States, but I don’t suck on its cock

…which would be Florida?

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18952 "2015-02-03T20:41:52Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> …which would be Florida?

Correct.

I live in Florida, and I’ve seen the sores on America’s cock firsthand.

That’s why I am aware that you should not suck on it.

I mean, strange cock is a risk, strange cock with visible signs of rampant STD is an entirely different category.

Also, the whole cock-sucking thing. What’s wrong with a polite and friendly wave from across the room?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18953 "2015-02-03T20:49:03Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> …which would be Florida?

Don’t mess with Florida. Don’t even **touch** Florida.

No, I told you . . .

:eek: Watch out, Bermuda!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18954 "2015-02-03T20:50:13Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> Why is nationalism and jingoism considered virtuous?

Because:

> [@](#):
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> The inclusion of troops into the argument is odd, maybe even a non-sequitur. But as Krieger continues, his reference to the Armed Forces begins to make sense. “People who call themselves liberals haven’t really understood what … American exceptionalism means,” he explains to TPM, “and why it is so extremely important that it be taught to our kids.” By Krieger’s reckoning, American exceptionalism isn’t important just because the U.S. is dope and students should learn dope things; it’s important because it is “what unites [Americans] as a people.” In contrast to our “ethnic differences” and “religious differences,” Krieger says, Americans are brought together by a shared belief in their nation’s superiority — or, as he puts it, “our core values.”
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> Keep in mind: Most of the complaints about the new APUSH framework concern the elevation of non-white, non-male perspectives. That would not be a charitable way to describe the activists’ worries, obviously — but it also would not be unfair. By teaching a version of U.S. history that emphasizes the views of those who suffered (or at least did not benefit) from the decisions of the powerful, APUSH, in the minds of people like Krieger, threatens the social fabric. What scares him and his supporters today is what scared the residents of Kanawha County in the ‘70s: that their children will ask them to defend beliefs once taken for granted, and will ask them questions for which there are no easy answers.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18955 "2015-02-03T20:58:20Z")

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Our Core Value shouldn’t be “Our troops are the best”.

That was Hitler’s core value. (sorry Godwin) It’s North Korea’s core value.

Our Core Value should be “We treat our citizens like human beings with dignity. We treat our prisoners like human beings with dignity. We treat guests in our country and in our homes like human beings with dignity. But if you crash planes into our buildings, we’ll fuck you up.”

That’s a core value I can get behind.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18956 "2015-02-03T20:58:41Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I can do links now - I just can’t figure out how to link when I’m using my mobile devices.
> 
> [http://morningafter.gawker.com/why-you-should-watch-the-straight-married-gays-of-my-hu-1678557796](http://morningafter.gawker.com/why-you-should-watch-the-straight-married-gays-of-my-hu-1678557796)
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> _There’s a scene in which the four guys play basketball and two of them ogle a guy on the opposing team. On the sidelines, they discuss the “danger scale,” which allows them to numerically designate how triggered they are by their attraction to another man (1 is “you notice, you look,” while 4 is “you’re requiring restraint”). When Jeff places the object of his lust at 2.5, Pret tells him, “I’d go higher than that.” “That’s some danger,” Jeff responds. “That’s why basketball’s been fun,” replies Pret._
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> \*The show is peppered with winking moments that reveal the underlying absurdity of their situation (“I don’t feel like I fit the mold of guys that are attracted to other men by other then my deep and abiding love for Broadway show tunes and my attraction to other males. Those are the things that are kind of gay about me,” says the single guy, Tom). \*

[Turn it off!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTgQYWv0xi8&t=2m29s)

😃

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18957 "2015-02-03T21:03:24Z")

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[GOP gubernatorial candidate in Missouri: Liberals’ “sexual permissiveness” is to blame for child porn.](http://www.salon.com/2015/02/03/gop_gubernatorial_candidate_liberals_sexual_permissiveness_to_blame_for_child_porn/)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18958 "2015-02-03T21:06:39Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> Also, the whole cock-sucking thing. What’s wrong with a polite and friendly wave from across the room?

_sigh_ No, there’s nothing **wrong** with it, but . . . . this is how the standards of common courtesy in America continue their inevitable decline . . . people just don’t care any more about making that extra effort. ☹

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18959 "2015-02-03T21:08:31Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> I wonder if there are any conservatives who are pro-choice, but not because they don’t think an embryo is a person, but because they think “It’s my kid, I own it. So I should be allowed to kill it!”

Abortion probably reduces crime, so there’s that.😃

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18960 "2015-02-03T21:30:18Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> Correct.
> 
> I live in Florida, and I’ve seen the sores on America’s cock firsthand.
> 
> That’s why I am aware that you should not suck on it.
> 
> I mean, strange cock is a risk, strange cock with visible signs of rampant STD is an entirely different category.
> 
> Also, the whole cock-sucking thing. What’s wrong with a polite and friendly wave from across the room?

It certainly beats shaking hands with Thom Tillis.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18961 "2015-02-03T21:50:57Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Because:

Yes, I’m sure “a shared belief in their nation’s superiority” is uniquely American, an exceptional sentiment even ! :rolleyes: As for American troops overseas as the defenders of Justice and Freedom, well, once upon a time one such trooper [wrote a little ditty about it](http://www.flagrancy.net/salvage/smedley.html).

> [@](#):
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> Thus I, helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers 1909-12. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras “right” for American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. I was rewarded with honors, medals, promotion. Looking back on it, I feel I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three city districts. We Marines operated on three _continents_.

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