# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18962 "2015-02-03T22:10:25Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> I wonder if there are any conservatives who are pro-choice, but not because they don’t think an embryo is a person, but because they think “It’s my kid, I own it. So I should be allowed to kill it!”

I’ve never met those, but I have met a few who hold that a woman has property rights to her own body, in a conservative/libertarian model, and can thus “evict” an “unwanted tenant.”

I’ve also met liberals who are pro-life, given that every individual should have the chance to fulfill his or her human potential. (The “what if you aborted Beethoven” model.)

There is not one single square millimeter of the great map of ideology that some liberal and some conservative don’t find themselves agreeing on!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18963 "2015-02-03T22:55:47Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> I’ve never met those, but I have met a few who hold that a woman has property rights to her own body, in a conservative/libertarian model, and can thus “evict” an “unwanted tenant.”
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> I’ve also met liberals who are pro-life, given that every individual should have the chance to fulfill his or her human potential. (The “what if you aborted Beethoven” model.)
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> There is not one single square millimeter of the great map of ideology that some liberal and some conservative don’t find themselves agreeing on!

But the picture changes as soon as you examine **why** they agree.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18964 "2015-02-03T23:43:42Z")

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On abortion, there isn’t much daylight between liberal pro-choicers and conservative pro-choicers, or liberal pro-lifers and conservative pro-lifers.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18965 "2015-02-03T23:56:25Z")

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A conservative might support policies for income equality if he thinks that otherwise, the proletariat’s gonna get all aggravated and radical. (Serfs up!). A liberal supports such policies to advance justice. _Ad hoc_ alliances are, at most, tenuous.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18966 "2015-02-04T01:53:35Z")

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> Freshman GOP Senator: I’m Okay With Not Forcing Restaurant Workers to Wash Up

[Because free market!](https://www.districtsentinel.com/freshman-gop-senator-im-okay-not-forcing-restaurant-workers-wash/)

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> Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) said Monday that he’s okay with the idea of service industry workers returning to work without washing their hands after touching their unmentionables, as long as customers are made aware of the situation.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18967 "2015-02-04T02:02:22Z")

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Well, he does sorta kinda clarify his point, in the manner of dumbfucks everywhere, he says that the restaurants which are less hygienic will quickly fall into line because people won’t go. Like he believes that free market solutions just naturally make people smarter. Maybe, in a Darwinian sort of way. a crude form of eugenics…

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**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18968 "2015-02-04T02:05:41Z")

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Good job, North Carolina!

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18969 "2015-02-04T02:57:39Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, he does sorta kinda clarify his point, in the manner of dumbfucks everywhere, he says that the restaurants which are less hygienic will quickly fall into line because people won’t go. Like he believes that free market solutions just naturally make people smarter. Maybe, in a Darwinian sort of way. a crude form of eugenics…

And how does he expect customers to work out that employees aren’t washing their hands? Perhaps when the local health department shuts the restaurant down after multiple cases of food poisoning?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18970 "2015-02-04T03:01:33Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> And how does he expect customers to work out that employees aren’t washing their hands? Perhaps when the local health department shuts the restaurant down after multiple cases of food poisoning?

One suspects health departments might be next in his sights.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18971 "2015-02-04T03:22:36Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> But the picture changes as soon as you examine **why** they agree.

True. In practice, there is a fairly strong correlation between one’s life/choice viewpoint and a lot of other ideological baggage. There are very rough “platforms” that the majority adheres to. (The most wonderfully paradoxical is, of course, pro-life & pro-death-penalty.) The Venn Diagrams, so to speak, come with some large overlaps.

> [@adaher](#):
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> On abortion, there isn’t much daylight between liberal pro-choicers and conservative pro-choicers, or liberal pro-lifers and conservative pro-lifers.

Although there is that small but significant group who are opposed to abortion, but still “pro-choice” out of essentially libertarian concerns. They think it’s wrong, but don’t support the government’s power to stop it. I find this group to be admirable, for having to reconcile directly conflicting viewpoints (as opposed to pro-life, pro-death-penalty, where the viewpoints don’t actually conflict – damn few fetuses have been sentenced to death by a capital jury!)

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18972 "2015-02-04T03:34:30Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, he does sorta kinda clarify his point, in the manner of dumbfucks everywhere, he says that the restaurants which are less hygienic will quickly fall into line because people won’t go. Like he believes that free market solutions just naturally make people smarter. Maybe, in a Darwinian sort of way. a crude form of eugenics…

Somehoe it ends up sounding [just like this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh1CqCAc2fE).

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18973 "2015-02-04T03:42:10Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, he does sorta kinda clarify his point, in the manner of dumbfucks everywhere, he says that the restaurants which are less hygienic will quickly fall into line because people won’t go. Like he believes that free market solutions just naturally make people smarter. Maybe, in a Darwinian sort of way. a crude form of eugenics…

Well, in practice that’s already how it works sometimes. Some of my drivers when I worked in pizza delivered for other places and reported to me some pretty massive health violations at some of these places. In the end, they weren’t shut down by health inspectors, they were shut down by lack of business.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18974 "2015-02-04T03:44:12Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Although there is that small but significant group who are opposed to abortion, but still “pro-choice” out of essentially libertarian concerns. They think it’s wrong, but don’t support the government’s power to stop it. I find this group to be admirable, for having to reconcile directly conflicting viewpoints (as opposed to pro-life, pro-death-penalty, where the viewpoints don’t actually conflict – damn few fetuses have been sentenced to death by a capital jury!)

That’s my view, but I think it’s actually the majority view. Mario Cuomo had that view. Michael Dukakis as well. There’s really no conflicting viewpoint though. There are a lot of things that are morally wrong but which the government shouldn’t be passing laws against because it does more harm than good. Promiscuity is wrong, and it could even be debated that it’s a public health issue, but we don’t let the government interfere in that.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18975 "2015-02-04T04:07:07Z")

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We’re gonna need a cite that promiscuity is wrong. How many or how much is promiscuity. Two, four, seventy five? If you’re not getting enough, perhaps a different forum would be appropriate.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18976 "2015-02-04T04:30:54Z")

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This “enough” of which you speak…

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18977 "2015-02-04T04:57:50Z")

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Not so much a stupid idea, but a shitty one…

> **[GOP senator: Don't make employees wash their hands after going to the...](https://www.salon.com/2015/02/03/gop_senator_dont_make_employees_wash_their_hands_after_going_to_the_bathroom_because_freedom/)**
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> Down with tyrannical hygienic regulations!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18978 "2015-02-04T05:13:04Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> This “enough” of which you speak…

“enough variety” (the spice of life)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18979 "2015-02-04T06:08:26Z")

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Perhaps, but true satisfaction is best realized in the maturity and stability of a committed relationship. As Zsa Zsa Gabor pointed out, until a man is married, he is incomplete. Once he gets married, then he is finished.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18980 "2015-02-04T06:19:51Z")

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GOP former senator wants more folks at CNN and MSNBC beheaded:

> **[Former Republican Congressman Wants Islamists To Behead The "Cowards" At CNN...](https://www.politicususa.com/2015/01/14/republican-congressman-islamists-behead-cowards-cnn-msnbc.html)**
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> Former one-term Republican Congressman Joe Walsh sent out a series of tweets Wednesday calling for Islamists to target the "appeasing cowards" at CNN and MSNBC first if the United States was to suffer another terrorist attack.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18981 "2015-02-04T06:30:06Z")

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“_… and we don’t need the lady crying cause the story’s sad …_”

Why does it seem like that line was written for that guy? And why does the guy who wrote that line not come by and beat the crap out of him? This slackitude must be stopped!

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