# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19362 "2015-02-19T14:09:49Z")

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Rudy Giuliani [doesn’t feel the love](http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/rudy-giuliani-president-obama-doesnt-love-america-115309.html) from President Obama:

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> "I do not believe that the president loves America,” Giuliani said during the dinner at the 21 Club, a former Prohibition-era speakeasy in midtown Manhattan. “He doesn’t love you. And he doesn’t love me. He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up through love of this country.”

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19363 "2015-02-19T14:40:14Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> So Moore isn’t the only bigoted booger-eating cretin down there. Well, I suppose it was too much to expect that he wasn’t.

That’s a bit strong. The judge is saying that _the legislature_ may be a bunch of booger-eating cretins, not describing his personal views (which may of course still be those of a booger-eating cretin.)

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19364 "2015-02-19T15:22:41Z")

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> booger-eating cretins

It is amusing that Republican cretins are often rabid [Christians, as implied by the etymology of “cretin”](http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=cretin), but perhaps the term should be avoided, as offensive both to other cretins and to good-spirited theists.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19365 "2015-02-19T15:35:21Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> In fairness to Walker, whom I loathe, the state will “only” borrow $200 million towards the new Bucks arena.

Given the historical record of sports-welfare-queens, accepting this figure without multiplying by a factor of at least two is on a par with Charlie Brown thinking he’ll actually get to kick the football this time.

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> The $300 million taken away from the university (over two years) will not go directly to the arena.

A meaningless distinction, given that money is fungible.

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19366 "2015-02-19T15:48:59Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Rudy Giuliani [doesn’t feel the love](http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/rudy-giuliani-president-obama-doesnt-love-america-115309.html) from President Obama:

We do know from [whom](http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/trump-hair.jpg) [Julie Annie](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tWIATyGp1Eo/SL8suRFs-WI/AAAAAAAAADM/w7_4Lb3BXrM/s400/giulianiInDrag.jpg) does feel the love…

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**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19367 "2015-02-19T15:51:47Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> A meaningless distinction, given that money is fungible.

John Oliver explained it wonderfully when he likened earmarking specific funds for specific expenditures to “trying to keep your piss in one corner of the swimming pool”

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19368 "2015-02-19T17:21:17Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Alabama Supreme Court Justice Warns He May Abolish Marriage Entirely If Same-Sex Weddings Are Allowed.](http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/02/18/3623884/state-supreme-court-justice-warns-may-abolish-marriage-entirely-sex-weddings-allowed/)

Well, what do you know. Acceptance of gay marriage actually _does_ threaten traditional marriages. The conservatives were right all along!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19369 "2015-02-19T18:04:05Z")

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[Giuliani blows the dog whistle](http://wonkette.com/576816/rudy-giuliani-hey-did-you-ever-notice-obamas-not-one-of-us-if-you-know-what-i-mean) a little too loudly:

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> “I do not believe, and I know this is a horrible thing to say, but I do not believe that the president loves America,” Giuliani said during the dinner at the 21 Club, a former Prohibition-era speakeasy in midtown Manhattan. “He doesn’t love you. And he doesn’t love me.\*\* He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up\*\* through love of this country.”

“If you know what I mean, and I think you do.”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19370 "2015-02-19T18:15:17Z")

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[Ted Yoho: U.S. will lose to ISIS if we keep “taking God out of this country”.](http://www.salon.com/2015/02/19/gop_congressman_u_s_will_lose_to_isis_unless_if_we_keep_taking_god_out_of_this_country/)

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19371 "2015-02-19T18:48:41Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> I don’t have to worry about that scenario, since I wouldn’t piss on George W if he were on fire.

[Quote=ElvisL1ves]  
I would.  
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But would you piss on the part that was on fire? 😃

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19372 "2015-02-19T19:39:41Z")

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Now, there is some trickle-down economic theory I can appreciate!

Clearly, the first thing to do is fetch some beer, to ensure a steady stream. Next, we need to establish a committee to make recommendations on the best approach to study the issue. To insure a swift resolution: Me, **Elvish** , **Red Shirt** , **Bricker** and **adaher**. Of course, a unanimous non-partisan resolution is essential. Plus, more beer…

It may be necessary to postpone the application of the golden shower of compassionate conservatism until the outpouring is tested for drugs.

And, of course, a more fundamental question: is it really necessary that he actually be on fire? Would not a course of preventative urination be prudent? And if we send for beer but only Coors is available…

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19373 "2015-02-19T19:48:34Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> … And if we send for beer but only Coors is available…

Og forbid. Coors is so close to piss that people may mistakenly pour it directly on him rather than … er, process it in advance.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19374 "2015-02-19T19:55:04Z")

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Good point! After the initial exploratory committee has reached its tentative conclusion, we should convene an Appropriations Committee to select the most efficacious urinary source. I suggest it should be comprised of mods, who know more about being pissy than anyone else.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19375 "2015-02-19T20:51:29Z")

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I think the assessment of what “on fire” means is most important here. If there is charred wreckage that still has glowy ember bits, that is still more or less “on fire”. Pissing into raging flames simply presents too much of a safety hazard to the micturator/micturatrix. I believe there is an OSHA document that addresses this issue.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19376 "2015-02-19T21:16:27Z")

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[Great idea, Walker](http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-02-18/wisconsin-to-skip-debt-payments-to-make-up-for-walker-s-tax-cuts?cmpid=yhoo) (\*for the ghost who walks):

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> Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, facing a $283 million deficit that needs to be closed by the end of June, will skip more than $100 million in debt payments to balance the books thrown into disarray by his tax cuts.
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> The move comes as Walker, 47, mounts a 2016 bid for the Republican presidential nomination, and while his state is under stress from a projected shortfall that could exceed $2 billion in the two-year budget beginning in July.

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19377 "2015-02-19T21:38:12Z")

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> Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, facing a $283 million deficit that needs to be closed by the end of June, will skip more than $100 million in debt payments to balance the books thrown into disarray by his tax cuts.
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> The move comes as Walker, 47, mounts a 2016 bid for the Republican presidential nomination, and while his state is under stress from a projected shortfall that could exceed $2 billion in the two-year budget beginning in July.

Well, at least we’ll hear the Republicans give him the same shit about Wisconsin as they do Obama about Detroit.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19378 "2015-02-19T22:21:45Z")

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Missouri Lt. Governor Peter Kinder is asking the Legislature for a per diem allowance, saying he has experienced “gradual impoverishment” during his time in office.

> [@St. Louis Post Dispatch](#):
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> Missouri Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder is asking lawmakers to give him a daily expense allowance for working at the state Capitol.
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> Kinder, a Republican, lives in Cape Girardeau and maintains a second home in Jefferson City.
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> **He receives an annual salary of about $86,000. But Kinder said he’s experienced “gradual impoverishment” during his decade in office** , because he’s had to use personal funds to pay for housing and meals when working in Jefferson City

[Cite](http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/missouri-s-no-pol-says-he-s-had-gradual-impoverishment/article_b069d8ba-a250-54da-8ac0-ee6ecbb61c57.html). My bold.

The median household income in Missouri was a little less than $59K in 2013, the last year available on [census.gov](http://census.gov). So, the Lt. Governor is doing a bit better than most MO families.

To be fair, I have not yet found the full quote that the “gradual impoverishment” claim came from. So, maybe it sounds better in context. I doubt it, but maybe.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19379 "2015-02-19T22:24:17Z")

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[**J** ohn **E** llis **B** ush](http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/jeb-bush-flubs-his-speech/2015/02/18/ff9ba502-b7ba-11e4-9423-f3d0a1ec335c_story.html)

Not much more need be said. That is one desperately fuck-ed-up family that does not realize that they cannot understand words.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19380 "2015-02-19T22:34:28Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Missouri Lt. Governor Peter Kinder is asking the Legislature for a per diem allowance, saying he has experienced “gradual impoverishment” during his time in office.

I’m sure Republicans in the legislature will tell him he needs to cut spending and live within his means.

Right?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19381 "2015-02-19T23:47:02Z")

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Depends. Is he white?

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