# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19422 "2015-02-22T01:11:41Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Don’t all monotheists worship the same God, just calling him something different?

I welcome you to try to explain that to your average Tea-Godder. That argument’s old news. It’s been circulating since 9/11 and that circulation hasn’t done much to end the “Mooslims worship a different god. Or SATAN!” belief.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19423 "2015-02-22T01:25:18Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Don’t all monotheists worship the same God, just calling him something different?

Doesn’t matter, does it? All that matters is my interpretation is the right one. Having the wrong beliefs about the same god, isn’t going to keep your head on your shoulders.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19424 "2015-02-22T02:55:14Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> … This is wrong, and worse than wrong, it is stupid.

Aye, Republican, it is!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19425 "2015-02-22T03:42:04Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Don’t all monotheists worship the same God, just calling him something different?

[Weeellllll . . .](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19426 "2015-02-22T04:17:12Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Weeellllll . . .](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp)

that was hilarious, thanks

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19427 "2015-02-22T05:35:58Z")

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Saw this, and had to share:

[George Bush, Dark Prince of Love](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/321971.George_Bush__Dark_Prince_of_Love)

It’s actually a humorous political piece, but worthy of attention, I believe, if only for the cover art (found on a Goodreads thread for “Worst Romance Covers”).

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19428 "2015-02-22T06:12:28Z")

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Harvard scientist who is a leading climate denier caught taking bribes.

[OOPS!](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19429 "2015-02-22T06:53:11Z")

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> …Robert J. Strangeway, the editor of a journal that published three of Dr. Soon’s papers, said that editors relied on authors to be candid about any conflicts of interest. “We assume that when people put stuff in a paper, or anywhere else, they’re basically being honest,” said Dr. Strangeway, editor of the Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics…

Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics? Dr. _Strangeway_? You can’t make shit like this up! I mean, if the five most sarcastic Dopers were to brainstorm for hours, we couldn’t make up a better name for a bogus publication of extravagant scientific pretensions! Proceedings of the Institute for Homeopathic Medicine? Not even close! Journal of Applied Phrenology? Fuhgeddabout it! Christian Science Monitor? Well, yeah, kinda, but that’s different…

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19430 "2015-02-22T08:01:41Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> Saw this, and had to share:
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> [George Bush, Dark Prince of Love](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/321971.George_Bush__Dark_Prince_of_Love)
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> It’s actually a humorous political piece, but worthy of attention, I believe, if only for the cover art (found on a Goodreads thread for “Worst Romance Covers”).

Jack Chick wrote _that_ ? 😃

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19431 "2015-02-22T10:43:15Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> Harvard scientist who is a leading climate denier caught taking bribes.
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> [OOPS!](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html)

Anyone surprised by this?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19432 "2015-02-22T10:45:00Z")

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Not me. I thought it was standard operating procedure.

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**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19433 "2015-02-22T17:21:03Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> Harvard scientist who is a leading climate denier caught taking bribes.
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> [OOPS!](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html)

Not defending this guy, but he’s guilty of taking bribes from industry in the same way I’m guilty of talking bribes from the National Institutes of Health. They funded his research. Yes, he shod have disclosed it in his publications, and yes, I doubt the quality of his work, but research needs funding. I guarantee Harvard and the Smithsonian didn’t give a shit about where the $$ came from until this hit the media.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19434 "2015-02-22T17:40:40Z")

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> [@mozchron](#):
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> Not defending this guy, but he’s guilty of taking bribes from industry in the same way I’m guilty of talking bribes from the National Institutes of Health. They funded his research. Yes, he shod have disclosed it in his publications, and yes, I doubt the quality of his work, but research needs funding. I guarantee Harvard and the Smithsonian didn’t give a shit about where the $$ came from until this hit the media.

The point is that no climatologist **not** funded by the fossil-fuel industry appears to be a denier, and that ought to tell us something about AGW denialism.

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**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19435 "2015-02-22T17:52:15Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> The point is that no climatologist **not** funded by the fossil-fuel industry appears to be a denier, and that ought to tell us something about AGW denialism.

Oh, no argument there. But the word used was “Bribe”. It’s not a bribe.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19436 "2015-02-22T17:55:17Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Weeellllll . . .](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp)

I like how in panel 21, the kid’s just smugly drinking his soda. And I welcome Jack Chick to go try this in the middle east for real if he thinks it’ll work

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19437 "2015-02-22T18:28:39Z")

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> [@mozchron](#):
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> Oh, no argument there. But the word used was “Bribe”. It’s not a bribe.

I can’t answer this because I’ve never written research papers, but how common is it, when corresponding with sponsors, to call the papers coming out of your research “deliverables”? I can’t recall ever hearing the term used as anything other than delivering a product under the terms of a contract.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19438 "2015-02-22T19:04:14Z")

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> [@mozchron](#):
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> Oh, no argument there. But the word used was “Bribe”. It’s not a bribe.

Like so many bribes, it’s not a bribe in the LEGAL sense, just in the pragmatic sense.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19439 "2015-02-22T19:19:34Z")

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> [@mozchron](#):
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> Not defending this guy, but he’s guilty of taking bribes from industry in the same way I’m guilty of talking bribes from the National Institutes of Health. They funded his research. Yes, he shod have disclosed it in his publications, and yes, I doubt the quality of his work, but research needs funding. I guarantee Harvard and the Smithsonian didn’t give a shit about where the $$ came from until this hit the media.

Do you characterize your papers as “deliverables” that you complete in exchange for their money? Because that’s what he does.

Do you violate journals’ terms of disclosure for your funding? Because that’s what he does.

Do you specifically tailor your work so that it gives the exact results that the National Institute of Health wants? Because that’s what he does.

The source of funding is important in this case, because the oil industry WANTS certain results, because certain results will give them more profits. You can’t say this about the NIH. You’re comparing apples and oranges.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19440 "2015-02-22T19:30:03Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I can’t answer this because I’ve never written research papers, but how common is it, when corresponding with sponsors, to call the papers coming out of your research “deliverables”? I can’t recall ever hearing the term used as anything other than delivering a product under the terms of a contract.

In my work, we do research, have sponsors, and have deliverables. The deliverables are the written product that results form the research.

But they are paying for us to do the work, create the product, and acknowledge our funding source.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19441 "2015-02-22T19:39:11Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> You’re comparing apples and oranges.

For the right amount of money, I’ll do that for you. How many pages do you want and what do you want the results to be?

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