# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19702 "2015-03-05T19:20:01Z")

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Rabble-rousing twaddle by a bunch of damned rebels, all of it. The benevolent rule of the Crown is the only legitimate power in the Colonies. At least since all those damned redskins and their peace pipes had the good grace to get smallpox and go away.

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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19703 "2015-03-05T19:48:39Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) thinks there are [too many empty beds at Guantanamo](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tom-cotton-guantanamo-bay-empty-beds):

Remember, this is the guy who wanted to [NORK](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/tom-cotton-corruption-of-blood_n_3322251.html) the Constitution.

Before becoming a Senator from Alabama, he joined the US Army in 2005 and as part of the induction process, was required to recite following oath:

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> “I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”
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> [5 U.S. Code § 3331 - Oath of office](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/3331)

During Oliver North’s run for Senator in Virginia in '94, I knew a an old Texan conservative by the name of John who was a retired Navy pilot. North lost the election to Robb (who wasn’t exactly popular either–rumors of blow and babes). Wednesday evening, at the end of work, I run into John and asked him what he thought of the results. Naturally, North’s election came up and John talked about how much he liked North’s politics.

“So you voted for him?”

“No, I did not.”

“What–why not?”

“I can never vote for person who violated his oath of office, **user\_hostile.** ”

Rendered speechless by that response, he smiled and walked away–into the sunset, IIRC 😉

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19704 "2015-03-05T21:34:46Z")

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Kris Kobach: [Obama Wants To Protect Black Criminals From Prosecution](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kris-kobach-obama-prosecute-blacks)

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19705 "2015-03-05T22:38:38Z")

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Republicans’ “Internet Freedom Act” would wipe out net neutrality

> **[Republicans’ “Internet Freedom Act” would wipe out net neutrality](https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/republicans-internet-freedom-act-would-wipe-out-net-neutrality/)**
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> Internet providers need the freedom to block and throttle Internet traffic.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19706 "2015-03-05T23:02:25Z")

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[Oklahoma State Sen. Joseph Silk: Gay people “don’t have a right to be served in every single store.”](http://www.salon.com/2015/03/05/gop_lawmaker_gay_people_don%e2%80%99t_have_a_right_to_be_served_in_every_single_store/)

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19707 "2015-03-05T23:19:09Z")

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> [@user\_hostile](#):
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> Remember, this is the guy who wanted to [NORK](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/tom-cotton-corruption-of-blood_n_3322251.html) the Constitution.

To be fair to the Party as a [whole](http://abovethelaw.com/2013/05/corruption-of-blood-amendment-withdrawn-after-house-supporter-is-reminded-what-century-it-is/)

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> Cotton eventually withdrew his amendment when even fellow Republicans started making the “cuckoo” gesture and rolled their eyes. So I guess Benedict Arnold’s descendants can sleep well for another day.

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**Author:** ![buddy431](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6a8cbe/32.png) [@buddy431](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddy431)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19708 "2015-03-05T23:23:37Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Kris Kobach: [Obama Wants To Protect Black Criminals From Prosecution](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kris-kobach-obama-prosecute-blacks)

OK, to be fair it was the guy who called in who suggested it.

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> Word is going to come down that there just won’t be any prosecutions of black criminals and I can see it happening. I don’t think I’m nuts for envisioning it.

There are lots of crazies who call into radio stations all the time. If we held everyone accountable for what their listeners said… How did Kobach respond to this?

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> Well, it’s already happening, more or less, in the case of civil rights laws. So I guess it’s not a huge jump. I think it’s unlikely but, you know, I’ve learned to say with this president never say never.

Yeah, you’re not helping yourself out there buddy.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19709 "2015-03-05T23:25:45Z")

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> [@johnpost](#):
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> Republicans’ “Internet Freedom Act” would wipe out net neutrality
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> [Republicans’ “Internet Freedom Act” would wipe out net neutrality - Ars Technica](http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/03/republicans-internet-freedom-act-would-wipe-out-net-neutrality/)

I have been a supporter of net neutrality efforts, but i think that there are actually some pretty good arguments to be made for allowing ISPs to prioritize certain types of traffic, especially given the fact that some types of traffic are far more “urgent,” in terms of things like latency, than others.

I also think that one of the biggest problems with internet service is not the issue of neutrality or prioritizing packets, but the total fucking lack of competition in most ISP markets, largely facilitated by mergers and by governments (federal, state, and local) that actively discourage, and in some cases actually prohibit, the emergence of competition.

But while governments of all types DO continue to make it hard for competition to work, i’m going to support the net neutrality rules, at least partly as a “fuck you” to massive companies like Comcast and Verizon, which do everything possible to have their cake and eat it too. They make every effort to keep the internet closed to competition, but they then scream “free markets” when anyone tries to rein in their monopolistic selfishness.

One hilarious aspect of the congresswoman’s argument is in this quote:

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> “Once the federal government establishes a foothold into managing how Internet service providers run their networks they will essentially be deciding which content goes first, second, third, or not at all," Blackburn said in an announcement yesterday.

No, you fucking moron, net neutrality is precisely _not_ the government deciding which content goes first, second, and third. While it does involve government oversight and regulation, it involves the government telling ISPs that \*they \*don’t get to decide which content goes first, second, or third.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19710 "2015-03-06T02:39:13Z")

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> [@buddy431](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > Well, it’s already happening, more or less, in the case of civil rights laws. So I guess it’s not a huge jump. I think it’s unlikely but, you know, I’ve learned to say with this president never say never.
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> Yeah, you’re not helping yourself out there buddy.

On the contrary, he’s probably just given himself another layer of armor against being primaried.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2015, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19711 "2015-03-06T02:43:59Z")

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[The NRA mocks Gabby Giffords for getting shot.](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/03/05/the-nra-mocks-gabby-giffords-getting-shot-really/)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19712 "2015-03-06T03:08:36Z")

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To ruthlessly fair, the mockery directed at being shot was the product of the comments. Not _quite_ cricket to infer that the organization itself mocks Ms Gifford’s misfortune, rather than her political stance. They still ensucken dead donkey balls, mind you…

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19713 "2015-03-06T03:10:34Z")

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Ensucken ? Is that cromulent ?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19714 "2015-03-06T03:24:56Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> To ruthlessly fair, the mockery directed at being shot was the product of the comments. Not _quite_ cricket to infer that the organization itself mocks Ms Gifford’s misfortune, rather than her political stance. They still ensucken dead donkey balls, mind you…

This is not mocking?:

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> Gabby Giffords: Everyone Should Have to Pass Background Check My Attacker Passed

That’s from the official NRA Twitter account.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2015, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19715 "2015-03-06T03:44:27Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> This is not mocking?:
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> That’s from the official NRA Twitter account.

It looks like mocking her idea, which they think would not have protected her. I don’t see the NRA’s comment as mocking her being shot.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2015, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19716 "2015-03-06T10:55:28Z")

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Rather than start its own very short lived thread, I present

**Smart Republican idea of the day**

> **[GOP Politicians Call for Supreme Court to OK Gay Marriage](https://time.com/3734626/gay-marriage-supreme-court-republicans/)**
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> More than 300 Republican lawmakers, operatives and consultants signed a brief.

Now I’ll read the plaque I’m dedicating to this day and these people.

“Here men and women from the Republican Party made some kind of effort to be not entirely worthless. On March 5, 2015, they made a small fraction of an effort not to go down in history as opposing everything that is just and right in this world, and finally stood against bigotry and injustice, for one fleeting moment, before going back to their usual worship of Mammon, sacrificing all other opportunity for progress on the altar of greed, the small wisp of power being used for good soon drowning under the desire for selfishness and consumption for its own sake. But here, they made one small step in the right direction, against a marathon of steps in the wrong direction. The faintest glimmer of hope soon swallowed by madness, a reminder of what the Republican Party could be, swiftly forgotten.”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19717 "2015-03-06T14:56:20Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Ensucken ? Is that cromulent ?

Infratrastically!

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19718 "2015-03-06T17:05:53Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> Rather than start its own very short lived thread, I present
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> **Smart Republican idea of the day**
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> [300 Republicans Call on Supreme Court to Recognize Gay Marriage | TIME](http://time.com/3734626/gay-marriage-supreme-court-republicans/)
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> Now I’ll read the plaque I’m dedicating to this day and these people.
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> “Here men and women from the Republican Party made some kind of effort to be not entirely worthless. On March 5, 2015, they made a small fraction of an effort not to go down in history as opposing everything that is just and right in this world, and finally stood against bigotry and injustice, for one fleeting moment, before going back to their usual worship of Mammon, sacrificing all other opportunity for progress on the altar of greed, the small wisp of power being used for good soon drowning under the desire for selfishness and consumption for its own sake. But here, they made one small step in the right direction, against a marathon of steps in the wrong direction. The faintest glimmer of hope soon swallowed by madness, a reminder of what the Republican Party could be, swiftly forgotten.”

Yeah, right. It’s kinda like, “Shit! We have ZERO gay votes, fellow bible thumpers! Let’s, uh… let’s beg the Supreme Court for some gay backing instead of gay bashing!” And I’m sure the SCOTUS will oblige.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2015, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19719 "2015-03-06T17:28:35Z")

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[Conservative columnist can’t mourn Nimoy because…Obama loves Spock.](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/conservative-columnist-cant-mourn-nimoys-death-because-spock-reminds-him-of-obama/)

You can’t make this shit up. Obama has to, HAS TO, come out in favor of breathing. That will rid us of some of these Republican nutjobs.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19720 "2015-03-06T18:41:45Z")

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Boehner may be immune to Tea Party efforts to topple him because… [Democrats might actually vote for Boehner as speaker](http://thehill.com/homenews/house/234766-dems-would-back-boehner-in-coup-attempt)!

That part isn’t really a “stupid Republican idea”, but I think it goes in this thread because of the general stupidity of the Republican party this year (and how delicious it would be to further outrage the nuts if it’s Democrats who save Boehner’s bacon!).

And read the comments. Even more delectation. 🙂

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/19721 "2015-03-06T18:52:59Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> And read the comments. Even more delectation. 🙂

Gaaah! Why did I listen to you? Never read the comments! Not if you want to retain any optimism about the human condition.

Anyone who thinks racism is a thing of the past… just go to a news story on Ferguson and click on the comments.

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