# Stupid Russian idea of the day

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 24, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309 "2023-02-24T17:06:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/1 "2023-02-24T17:06:04Z")

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With so much stupidity coming out of Russia, mostly from their equivalents of Tucker Carlson, but also other Putin allies and their equivalents of Empty Greene, I thought I’d start a thread. First up…

> **[Russia's Medvedev floats idea of pushing back Poland's borders](https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-medvedev-floats-idea-pushing-091433077.html)**
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> Former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev said on Friday that the only way for Moscow to ensure a lasting peace with Ukraine was to push back the borders of hostile states as far as possible, even if that meant the frontiers of NATO member Poland. ...

Yeah, right. Directly attack NATO. That’ll turn out well.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/2 "2023-02-24T17:33:09Z")

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> **[Russia state TV discusses nuclear strike on Yellowstone volcano](https://www.newsweek.com/russia-state-tv-discusses-nuclear-strike-yellowstone-volcano-1783485)**
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> A retired Russian naval officer spoke on TV about the theoretical effectiveness of a possible nuclear strike on a U.S. volcano.

Blowing up a volcano sounds like something an Evil Villain from a spy movie would do.

Though the link is a current article, Konstantin Sivkov has been floating the idea [since at least 2015](https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-analyst-says-to-nuke-yellowstone-2015-4). (Interesting that that article was published on April 1st.)

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/3 "2023-02-24T17:46:23Z")

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I’m sure USSTRATCOM would clearly discern this as an attack at a huge natural feature, and not an attack on the substantial and strategically important nuclear missile fields a short distance away. Or care about the distinction.

I’m amazed people can be ao stupid that they’d publicly advocate for their own extinction.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/4 "2023-02-24T17:49:38Z")

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That is often the case with death cults, sadly.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/5 "2023-02-24T18:11:40Z")

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This would hardly be just an attack on the USA. But an attack on the world. The Yellowstone caldera is much more than a ‘volcano’.

IF (a big if I think) that that was released, the world would retreat to pre-industrial society. The USA would of course get hit hardest. The Northern hemisphere would suffer for decades.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/6 "2023-02-24T19:35:58Z")

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Getting into serious hijack territory, but … could a direct nuke strike actually trigger an eruption of the caldera?

IANAG, but it seems just as likely that it would disperse the pressure and make it less threatening, and most likely of all that it would do pretty much nothing.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/7 "2023-02-24T19:55:07Z")

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It’s not one of your rank and file “volcanoes”. It is a super volcano whose last three eruptions were over one thousand times more powerful than Mount St. Helens. It would cause huge problems nation wide.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/8 "2023-02-24T19:59:17Z")

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Well yes – if it erupted. My question is, could a nuke trigger an eruption?

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/9 "2023-02-24T20:02:00Z")

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[**According to this very detailed article, NO.**](https://www.usgs.gov/observatories/yvo/news/can-nuclear-blast-trigger-yellowstone-eruption-no-how-about-earthquake-also)

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/10 "2023-02-24T20:09:45Z")

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That’s what I figured. Whoever came up with this brainstorm has probably watched _2012_ too many times.

Thanks for the research!

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/11 "2023-02-24T20:12:03Z")

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I wonder if anyone in Hollywood (or the Russian equivalent) is looking at this for the plot of a disaster film.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/12 "2023-02-24T20:16:01Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> That’s what I figured. Whoever came up with this brainstorm

That’s why it’s in the **Stupid** Russian idea of the day. 😉

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/13 "2023-02-24T20:18:48Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> Whoever came up with this brainstorm has probably watched _2012_ too many times.

Or [Van Helsing](https://vanhelsing-syfy.fandom.com/wiki/The_Rising).

Maybe Russia figures that it’s high time for the US to be the one overrun by vampires for once.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/14 "2023-02-24T20:20:02Z")

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Then part of Poland will be Russian, and they will want to push those borders back.  
Does a demilitarized zone do anything for you in the 21st century?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/15 "2023-02-24T22:37:35Z")

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A DMZ slows down the enemy’s army.

And as to part of Poland becoming Russian - not really. The idea is to have sacrificial land and population there that Russia controls, but doesn’t care about the welfare of. They’re just captive cannon fodder to sponge up a bunch of the invader’s time, munitions, and attention before said enemy can reach the Motherland.

c.f. Warsaw Pact. All those countries were simply a large version of a hostage taker’s human shields.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/16 "2023-02-24T22:58:54Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Blowing up a volcano sounds like something an Evil Villain from a spy movie would do.
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> Though the link is a current article, Konstantin Sivkov has been floating the idea [since at least 2015](https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-analyst-says-to-nuke-yellowstone-2015-4)

Konstantin Sivkov sounds like the name of an evil villain from a spy movie.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/17 "2023-02-24T23:10:34Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> [https://www.newsweek.com/russia-state-tv-discusses-nuclear-strike-yellowstone-volcano-1783485](https://www.newsweek.com/russia-state-tv-discusses-nuclear-strike-yellowstone-volcano-1783485)
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> Blowing up a volcano sounds like something an Evil Villain from a spy movie would do.
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> Though the link is a current article, Konstantin Sivkov has been floating the idea [since at least 2015](https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-analyst-says-to-nuke-yellowstone-2015-4). (Interesting that that article was published on April 1st.)

Wait, was that why Captain Ramius wanted to see Wyoming?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/18 "2023-02-24T23:47:33Z")

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I think it was Vasili who wanted to see Montana.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-russian-idea-of-the-day/980309/19 "2023-02-25T00:09:56Z")

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As long as we keep Ensign Chekov away from the nucular wessels we’ll be fine.
