# Stupid Santorumisms **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 20, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417 "2012-02-20T14:10:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/201 "2012-02-28T04:29:20Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Or half a mortgage payment if you got a mortgage between 10 and 5 years ago. Fair point. I’m seeing about $1600 median as of 2007. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/202 "2012-02-28T04:34:15Z")
> [@Askance](#): > > This assumes that this family is utterly uncognizant of fiscal reality or theory, and uses exactly as much gas regardless of its price. Of course Chicago economic theory (as espoused by the right) demands that they are perfectly informed and rational consumers and so would moderate their consumption in ratio of the price increase Well, gas is short-term inelastic, so even the Chicago school would expect demand to lag price. Which means . . . wait for it . . . > [@](#): > > IT’S ALL OBAMA’s SOCIALIST FAULT! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/203 "2012-02-29T20:37:31Z")
More entertainment from [History with Rick](http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/santorum-focuses-on-reaching-out-to-women-adviser-says-they-are-a-macgyver-campaign/): > [@](#): > > He spent most of his speech repeating the themes he does on the stump, including his mention of the Declaration of Independence, but this evening there was a twist on that, too. > > “The men and women who signed that declaration wrote the final phrase, ‘We pledge to each other our lives, our fortune, and our sacred honor,” Santorum said. > > There were no women who signed the Declaration of Independence. Perhaps it was the wigs that confused him. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/204 "2012-02-29T20:55:01Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > More entertainment from [History with Rick](http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/santorum-focuses-on-reaching-out-to-women-adviser-says-they-are-a-macgyver-campaign/):Perhaps it was the wigs that confused him. I’m just glad it wasn’t Sarah Palin who said that. She’d be on Sean Hannity today arguing that John Adams had ovaries and Ben Franklin’s name was signed by the cleaning lady. While Hannity looked on and nodded unquestioningly. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/205 "2012-02-29T21:05:05Z")
Shhh… Don’t say that name! You’ll raise the demon! (I’m mortally afraid of her wrangling a nomination, from the floor of the convention, and with all the polarization the contender/douchebags are creating, she takes it. I know, it seems far fetched. But there is nothing left to surprise me in US politics, I think.) ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/206 "2012-02-29T21:37:23Z")
Eh, I’d give him a pass on that one. The man is mighty dumb, but he probably said “men and women” just out of habit. I imagine a politician on the stump has to say that a lot, just to be sure to not leave women out. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/207 "2012-02-29T22:17:51Z")
Sounds like he’d be a good candidate to narrate a “Drunk History” video, but without the need to get drunk first. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/208 "2012-02-29T23:03:13Z")
Sounds like he’s a liberal, PC, gender-includer! ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/209 "2012-02-29T23:20:17Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Shhh… > > Don’t say that name! You’ll raise the demon! > > (I’m mortally afraid of her wrangling a nomination, from the floor of the convention, and with all the polarization the contender/douchebags are creating, she takes it. I know, it seems far fetched. But there is nothing left to surprise me in US politics, I think.) Why on earth would you be _afraid_ of that? A Palin nomination is possibly the only thing I’d enjoy more than a Santorum nomination. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/210 "2012-03-01T06:33:32Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > More entertainment from [History with Rick](http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/santorum-focuses-on-reaching-out-to-women-adviser-says-they-are-a-macgyver-campaign/):Perhaps it was the wigs that confused him. I saw that speech live, and from context it was very clear what was going on. Rick’s handlers noted that he lost Michigan and Arizona in part because he was doing so poorly with women. Hence, a mid-campaign correction to try to appeal to female voters. That whole speech was filled with insincere sops to how much he respects and admires women. What I especially liked was how he managed to praise his family members for their education and in the same speech continue to jab at Obama as an intellectual snob because he said that all Americans should aspire to attend college. Anyway, the “men and women” signers reminded me of one of my favorite demonstrations of PC excess - the [“little men (AND WOMEN)” in the jungle.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxEpz-YR4mk) (You only have to listen to the first 25 seconds.) Rick sounds just about as natural and believable, which is to say … not very. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/211 "2012-03-01T08:35:55Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Actually, he has a point here without realizing it. > > Just pissing out numbers, but if average per capita gasoline use is around 400 gallons (rough guess from hitting a couple summary sites), then a household of four would crank through 1600 gallons a year. A one-dollar rise in prices gives us an extra $1600 annually, which is really not chump change. > > Another handwave suggests that’s between one and two mortgage payments. Certainly enough to theoretically cause a default in a household that’s already balanced on the edge. > > \*And they were balanced on the fucking edge because of deregulated mortgage and financial markets, artificially cheap credit, and unrestricted predatory lending. \* > > Not to mention a culture of entitlement and a national obsession with the automobile. If our hypothetical family lived closer to where they work instead of the fucking burbs they wouldn’t be burning so fucking much gasoline. :smack: It’s really two things affected by a common cause. If their salaries had kept pace with inflation, they could have shored up demand, and still bought gas. Instead, their productivity was siphoned off to private equity and Wall Street. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/212 "2012-03-01T14:05:31Z")
Can we just change the thread title to **Santorumisms**? You’re wasting the internets and I’m afraid that all of the tubes will fill up. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/213 "2012-03-01T15:25:03Z")
This was a good one… In the nation’s past, he said, “Most presidents homeschooled their children in the White House.… Parents educated their children because it was their responsibility.” “Yes, the government can help,” he continued, “but the idea that the federal government should be running schools, frankly much less that the state government should be running schools, is anachronistic.” He said it is an artifact of the Industrial Revolution, “when people came off the farms where they did homeschool or had a little neighborhood school, and into these big factories … called public schools.” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/214 "2012-03-01T15:32:31Z")
And he thinks going back to the agrarian model would be LESS anachronistic? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/215 "2012-03-01T15:32:59Z")
There’s just soooooo many good ones "The reason Social Security is in big trouble is we don’t have enough workers to support the retirees. Well, a third of all the young people in America are not in America today because of abortion.” –Rick Santorum, during a Republican presidential debate (May 2011) ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/216 "2012-03-01T15:38:16Z")
Apparently, he’s a “lover”. Get a load of this little lovefest. “You can say I’m a hater. But I would argue I’m a lover. I’m a lover of traditional families and of the right of children to have a mother and father… I would argue that the future of America hangs in the balance, because the future of the family hangs in the balance. Isn’t that the ultimate homeland security, standing up and defending marriage?” –Rick Santorum, quoted in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (July 2004) ---
**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/217 "2012-03-01T17:26:51Z")
…Homeland security? I think I just threw up in my mouth a little realizing what he’s (likely in his little fantasy mind) ‘secretly’ proposing there… ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/218 "2012-03-01T17:42:21Z")
Do you know who ELSE fought to preserve traditional gender roles in the name of defending the homeland? No, seriously, our industrial capacity in WW2 was greatly increased by making full use of women in the workforce vis a vis Germany. One can make a similar argument, although not as life-changing, that it’s good for the economy to allow same-sex marriage so that people do not make inefficient economic decisions based upon that fact (for instance, moving to a bad job in a state that allows SSM, or spending needless labor-hours on and with an attorney arranging marriage-like contracts.) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/219 "2012-03-01T22:50:51Z")
[QUOTE=Ann Hedonia] "Well, a third of all the young people in America are not in America today because of abortion.” –Rick Santorum, during a Republican presidential debate (May 2011) [/QUOTE] Where did the abortions go to grow up? Are they like that army that’s trapped in the mountain in _Return of the Tower Rings Fellowship Lord_ who will be activated once Rick goes and says “Get to work’!” > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > In the nation’s past, he said, “Most presidents homeschooled their children in the White House.… Parents educated their children because it was their responsibility.” And the poor don’t need to learn how to read. What do they need to read anyway? How to be poor? They already know. > [@](#): > > “Yes, the government can help,” he continued, “but the idea that the federal government should be running schools, frankly much less that the state government should be running schools, is anachronistic.”[/ Wait… people used to homeschool, now the government does, so the way it is now is an anachr… I do not believe that word means what you think it means. The scariest part to me about Savanarola II is that I really think he believes the shit he says. Even if he has no idea when he opens his mouth what he’s about to say, I think he still thinks whatever it is, it’ll be true. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/220 "2012-03-02T01:18:20Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Wait… people used to homeschool, now the government does, so the way it is now is an anachr… I do not believe that word means what you think it means. That’s just because you aren’t sufficiently committed to living in the eighteenth century. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417.md?page=12)