# Stupid Santorumisms

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 20, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417 "2012-02-20T14:10:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 12

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/221 "2012-03-02T03:17:05Z")

</div>

I didn’t see it mentioned here, and I’m surprised:

[Access to birth control leads to children being born out of wedlock](http://www.theroot.com/blogs/iran-nuclear-ambitions/top-5-moments-arizona-gop-debate)

_facepalm_

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/222 "2012-03-03T03:03:38Z")

</div>

[In 1992 nobody knew about cell phones and then God gave us the right to them.](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/02/santorum-people-20-years-ago-couldnt-conceive-of-a-cell-phone/) Or something.

I dunno, I give up.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/223 "2012-03-03T03:19:10Z")

</div>

> [@Biggirl](#):
>
> [In 1992 nobody knew about cell phones and then God gave us the right to them.](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/02/santorum-people-20-years-ago-couldnt-conceive-of-a-cell-phone/) Or something.
> 
> I dunno, I give up.

Golly molly, **Biggirl**. There’s an even bigger, er, nugget in that article you linked to:

> [@](#):
>
> Speaking to supporters in Chillicothe, Ohio on Friday, the former Pennsylvania senator explained that the U.S. had “transformed the world” with the a new form of government.
> 
> “In the previous 2,000 years, life did not change,” he said. “And then America came around and said, ‘No, no more dictators, no more kings, no more classes, no more nobility.’"

Ooookay. So, the Roman Republic, the Greek democracies, all the myriad political structures evolving worldwide from Hellenistic times to the Enlightenment—all that can be summed up as “life did not change”.

Imagine that.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/224 "2012-03-03T03:20:35Z")

</div>

For someone who has been spouting off (wrongly) about the French Revolution, he seems to have forgotten that as well.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/225 "2012-03-03T04:27:58Z")

</div>

> [@silenus](#):
>
> For someone who has been spouting off (wrongly) about the French Revolution, he seems to have forgotten that as well.

Fair’s fair - we had it a decade or so after your independance. It’s only natural to assume the latter was the sole cause of the former. After all, what other reason could there have been ? Life just didn’t change back then, or so I’m told.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/226 "2012-03-03T04:31:57Z")

</div>

Buncha copycats is all you are.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/227 "2012-03-03T04:41:45Z")

</div>

> [@Biggirl](#):
>
> [In 1992 nobody knew about cell phones and then God gave us the right to them.](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/02/santorum-people-20-years-ago-couldnt-conceive-of-a-cell-phone/) Or something.
> 
> I dunno, I give up.

Oh great, another fanboy who thinks Steve Jobs is God. 😛

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/228 "2012-03-05T21:15:25Z")

</div>

> **[Santorum: Ohio on Super Tuesday a 'huge deal' for his campaign](https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-xpm-2012-mar-05-sns-la-pn-santorum-ohio-on-super-tuesday-a-huge-deal-for-his-campaign-20120305-story.html)**
>
> Santorum: Ohio on Super Tuesday a 'huge deal' for his campaign

Santorum would be the winner if he had as much money as Mitt Romney. But he doesn’t! His family is spending down its savings! He won’t be able to put his kids through college! They’ll be destitute soon! But dammit, a FUTILE GRAB FOR POLITICAL POWER IS WORTH IT!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/229 "2012-03-05T21:32:20Z")

</div>

> [@Sattua](#):
>
> He won’t be able to put his kids through college!

What a snob!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/230 "2012-03-05T23:14:57Z")

</div>

Forget the anti-abortion, anti-contraception, anti-separation of church and state stances. Forget all the conservative talking points that make liberals cringe.

The man is incompetent. His campaign can’t even get the paperwork right.  
[

> [@](#):
>
> Rick Santorum was already known as starting from a deficit, delegate-wise, in Ohio. He failed to qualify for any district delegates in three Ohio congressional districts because he didn’t turn in delegate names there.  
> But his delegate troubles go deeper. According to the Ohio Republican Party tonight, the former Pennsylvania U.S. senator filed incomplete delegate slates in six additional Ohio districts.

]([Rick Santorum faces bigger Ohio problem than previously known (updated) - cleveland.com](http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2012/03/rick_santorum_faces_bigger_ohi.html))  
Romney’s campaign has started to hammer on this point:

> [@](#):
>
> “Rick Santorum has failed to get on the ballot in Virginia, has failed to file full delegate slates in Tennessee, New Hampshire and Illinois, and has failed to submit enough delegates in several Ohio congressional districts,” said Romney spokesman Ryan Williams. “The fact that he cannot execute the simple tasks that are required to win the Republican nomination proves that Rick Santorum is incapable of taking on President Obama’s formidable political machine.”

Incapable of taking on Obama as an opponent? His politics offend me but if he were as liberal as your average Democrat I’d still consider him unfit for office. How the hell is he supposed to run a country if he can’t run a campaign?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/231 "2012-03-06T00:25:18Z")

</div>

He didn’t think he was going to, like Newt. Nobody, but nobody, had a clue as to how this spinning clusterfuck would play out, we are all gob-smacked. Say what you will about democracy, it ain’t dull!

(In a lonely cabin south of Lake Woebegon, Tim Pawlenty quietly weeps…)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/232 "2012-03-06T02:17:02Z")

</div>

> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
>
> Apparently, he’s a “lover”. Get a load of this little lovefest.
> 
> “You can say I’m a hater. But I would argue I’m a lover. I’m a lover of traditional families and of the right of children to have a mother and father… I would argue that the future of America hangs in the balance, because the future of the family hangs in the balance. Isn’t that the ultimate homeland security, standing up and defending marriage?” –Rick Santorum, quoted in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (July 2004)

> [@ArrMatey](#):
>
> …Homeland security? I think I just threw up in my mouth a little realizing what he’s (likely in his little fantasy mind) ‘secretly’ proposing there…

He wants to be President of Camazotz!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/233 "2012-03-06T03:50:59Z")

</div>

Today he says the reason he can’t give more than 1.76 percent of his income to charity is because he has a special needs daughter and even with an income in the high six/low seven figures [private insurance is insufficient](http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/03/04/437240/santorum-concedes-need-for-obamacare/) for her needs.

> [@](#):
>
> SANTORUM: Well, we always need to do better. I was in a situation where we have seven children and one disabled child who we take care of, and she’s very, very expensive. We love her and we cherish the opportunity to take care of her, but it’s an additional expense. We have to have around-the-clock care for her, and our insurance company doesn’t cover it so I have to cover it.

Lots and lots of pittable things here but I’ll stick to just this:

He’s had years where he made over $1 million and, by his own words, _he and his wife with a 1% income_ can’t afford healthcare without belt tightening, but somebody who makes a tenth of their income- still not a bad income- is somehow supposed to have no problem paying for this, or at least not enough to warrant anything like a national health insurance.

Meanwhile, a married couple who are both in school, earn $15,000 plus student loans between them, want children someday and will have comfortable incomes some day but currently could not afford even a healthy child on their income (and every ten dollars makes a difference in their lifestyle) should not receive any kind of subsidized contraception. Preferably they shouldn’t use contraception at all, but if she did get pregnant and it was a special needs child… I guess there are special workhouses for them?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/234 "2012-03-06T03:52:43Z")

</div>

> [@Sampiro](#):
>
> I guess there are special workhouses for them?

Yep. Special needs workhouses, picking special needs oakum.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/235 "2012-03-06T05:58:10Z")

</div>

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
>
> He wants to be President of Camazotz!

IT sometimes calls ITself the Happiest Santorum.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/236 "2012-03-06T15:44:54Z")

</div>

From an interview with George Stephanopoulos…here’s his explanation for why kids shouldn’t go to college

You talk to most kids who go to college who are conservatives, and you are singled out, you are ridiculed, you are — I can tell you personally," Santorum said. “I went through a process where I was docked for my conservative views. This is sort of a regular routine. You know the statistic … that 62 percent of kids who enter college with some sort of faith commitment leave without it. This is not a neutral setting.”

HMMMM…don’t want them to know about evolution, huh

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/237 "2012-03-06T16:48:20Z")

</div>

Stupid Santorumisms are invading my dreams!

Last night I dreamed that I was trying to get my kids up for school. They calmly explained that there was no school because of the anachronistic snow. No matter how hard I tried to get them to go to school, they wouldn’t. They kept elaborating on the snow and how it wasn’t there yesterday and now it is, so there was no school. Because of the anachronistic snow. It was a pretty frustrating dream.

At least the dream didn’t involve any actual santorum.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/238 "2012-03-06T17:42:54Z")

</div>

> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
>
> From an interview with George Stephanopoulos…here’s his explanation for why kids shouldn’t go to college
> 
> You talk to most kids who go to college who are conservatives, and you are singled out, you are ridiculed, you are — I can tell you personally," Santorum said. “I went through a process where I was docked for my conservative views. […]”

😕 “Docked”? I originally assumed that that was just a typesetter’s error for “mocked”, but [apparently Santorum did indeed claim that his college grades were “docked” by professors](http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/140811273.html) because he was a conservative.

He hasn’t provided any evidence to substantiate that claim, but I’m sure it will play well with his base. Damn librul professor types. :rolleyes:

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/239 "2012-03-06T18:04:49Z")

</div>

> [@Kimstu](#):
>
> 😕 “Docked”? I originally assumed that that was just a typesetter’s error for “mocked”, but [apparently Santorum did indeed claim that his college grades were “docked” by professors](http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/140811273.html) because he was a conservative.
> 
> He hasn’t provided any evidence to substantiate that claim, but I’m sure it will play well with his base. Damn librul professor types. :rolleyes:

Perhaps that accounts for why conservatives are perceived as[less intelligent than liberals](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=639152&highlight=states+blue); their grades are lower because lamestream education elites don’t like them.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/240 "2012-03-06T18:06:11Z")

</div>

Some conservatives may feel that they have been docked grades for their opinions or their political affiliation, when in fact they were docked grades because they did not understand the material, or they delivered answers that were factually incorrect.

For example, if you are taking a class in Geology, and insist the earth is only 6,000 years old, you will be docked marks because you are wrong, not because you are a conservative.

If you are taking a class in Biology, and you answer a question with “because God did it”, you will be marked incorrect because you are wrong, not because you are a conservative.

If you are taking a class in sociology, and you answer a question with “The Lamestream Liberal controlled media is brainwashing the public with their socialist lies”… You will be marked incorrect because you are wrong.

If you are taking a class in Comparative Religion, and you produce an essay that is a diatribe about how Christianity is the only true religion, but do not produce any citations or quotes or evidence of thoughtful analysis… you will receive a poor grade not because you are a conservative or a Christian, but because you are a poor scholar.

Etc.

But many Christian conservatives do have quite the martyr complex, so they will continue to think that they are specifically being picked on by the mean liberals.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417.md?page=11)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417.md?page=13)
