# Stupid Santorumisms

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 20, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417 "2012-02-20T14:10:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/21 "2012-02-20T19:10:28Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> 1. Obama then controls your life. (Really? Your whole life? Wow!)

Yep. That’s why the Obamacare bill was rushed in a hush hush fashion. Mandatory abortions.

Whereas Santorum stands for the freedom to choose life and does not want to control you.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/22 "2012-02-20T19:11:33Z")

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Only if you don’t want one. Otherwise, you can’t have one.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/23 "2012-02-20T19:17:40Z")

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Moved Elections --\> the Pit.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/24 "2012-02-20T19:45:23Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I wonder what Santorum’s view is on Catholic universities like Notre Dame or Villanova. He does know that they exist, right?

First, a common mistake about ND: their True God is football.

Second, he probably thinks they’re godless hotbeds of liberal thought, differing from him (at least) on evolution, immigration, the environment, social welfare, etc.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/25 "2012-02-20T19:45:33Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> [Santorum Says:](http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Santorum-Global-warming-is-politics-not-science-3344022.php)
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> He said this in the context of climate change research, which he denies is actually science:
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> So I guess all of those researchers who are working on Climate Science are all just massive frauds. Santorum has spoken.  
> I don’t even understand how the logic works here:
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> 1. Obama frightens people about new technologies for oil exploration
> 2. Obama and allies get your dollars (how does this step work?)
> 3. Obama and allies turn your dollars over to politicians to win elections (how does this money magically get funneled to politicians?
> 4. Obama then controls your life. (Really? Your whole life? Wow!)

Well hey, at least he’s apparently willing to admit that money does heavily influence election results! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/26 "2012-02-20T19:49:50Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Not in private Christian schools, where indoctrination is forbidden.

I know this is just a joke, but strangely enough, Santorum mostly attended public school, except for one year in a Roman Catholic high school. One freaking year. Where you’d think he’d have learned that Catholicism isn’t anti-science. (Evolution, environmentalism, etc)

He also went to PennState. (Make your own Sandusky joke there)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/27 "2012-02-20T19:56:00Z")

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Mmmm, no, that would be crude and disgusting. \*\* Vinn\*\*y can have that one.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/28 "2012-02-20T20:47:44Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Speaking of context (and assuming someone didn’t whoosh XaMcO), what \*is \*his justification for the Crusades–what justification that doesn’t begin with or include a substantial measure of aggression on ‘our’ part?

My \*guess \*- it’s pure speculation - is that he sees the Crusades as a reaction to Islam conquering regions by force. Islamic forces took Spain by force, and did battle with Charles “the hammer” in France. Sort of Christianity’s home turf. So in an early ‘war on terror,’ crusaders took the fight to the terrorists.

It’s a comforting narrative if your ancestors were crusaders.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/29 "2012-02-20T21:14:27Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> My \*guess \*- it’s pure speculation - is that he sees the Crusades as a reaction to Islam conquering regions by force. Islamic forces took Spain by force, and did battle with Charles “the hammer” in France. Sort of Christianity’s home turf. So in an early ‘war on terror,’ crusaders took the fight to the terrorists.
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> It’s a comforting narrative if your ancestors were crusaders.

Except the first crusade came four centuries later. And on the opposite side of the world. That’s like saying Germany invading Alsace in WW1 was not, in fact, German aggression but striking back at Henri II.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/30 "2012-02-20T21:48:55Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Except the first crusade came four centuries later. And on the opposite side of the world. That’s like saying Germany invading Alsace in WW1 was not, in fact, German aggression but striking back at Henri II.

What’s a few hundred years in the Dark Ages?

Like I said, speculation. But I wouldn’t be at all surprised, if pressed, Santorum’s explanation for the Crusades was some flavor of “curbing Islamic aggression.”

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/31 "2012-02-20T22:08:27Z")

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On the Catholic priest [sex abuse scandals in Boston](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8567264/ns/politics/t/kennedy-raps-santorum-sex-abuse-remarks/):

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> “Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture,” Santorum wrote. “When the culture is sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for this scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm.”

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/32 "2012-02-20T22:08:34Z")

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Undoubtedly. Jerusalem was taken by Islamic forces and had to be taken back for Christendom. So, clearly, “they” started it. A quick glance at wiki will make it clear how many theories there are for why the First Crusade got off the ground - not a few of which cite Islamic aggression in the preceding years.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/33 "2012-02-20T22:14:45Z")

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Unsurprisingly, Santorum godwinizes his [anti-Obama rhetoric](http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57381143-503544/santorum-rhetoric-gets-sharper/):

> [@](#):
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> Santorum sees the situation as so dire that during a Lincoln Day Dinner in Mason, Ohio on Friday, he likened the election to World War II and urged voters in the state to model themselves after the Greatest Generation of the 1940s that fought the war. He extended that metaphor on Sunday in a speech to more than 2,000 supporters at a megachurch in Cumming, about an hour outside of Atlanta.
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> “Remember, the greatest generation for a year and a half, sat on the sidelines while Europe was under darkness,” Santorum said, going on to explain why Americans delayed entering the war. “We’re a hopeful people. We think, 'Well, you know, it’ll get better. Yeah, he’s a nice guy. I mean, it won’t be near as bad as what we think. This will be okay. I mean, yeah, maybe he’s not the best guy after a while, after a while you find out some things about this guy over in Europe who’s not so good of a guy after all … '”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/34 "2012-02-20T22:19:57Z")

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So, a little old Chinese man and a little old Jewish man are sitting at a park bench, the Chinese man is feeding pigeons, when the old Jewish man squints at him and then suddenly whacks him across the knees with his cane.

“Owww! Goddamit! What did you do that for?”

“_That_ was for Pearl Harbor!”

“You dumb ass! I’m Chinese, it was the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor!”

“Chinese, Japanese, Burmese, what difference does it make?”

The old Chinese picks up his cane, and whacks the old Jew across the knees and yells:

“That’s for sinking the Titanic!”

“You stupid _putz_! An iceberg sank the Titanic!”

“Iceberg, Weissberg, Goldberg…what difference does it make?”

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/35 "2012-02-20T22:24:16Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> On the Catholic priest [sex abuse scandals in Boston](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8567264/ns/politics/t/kennedy-raps-santorum-sex-abuse-remarks/):

> [@](#):
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> “Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture,” Santorum wrote. “When the culture is sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for this scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm.”

has anyone ever seen Santorum and **Starving Artist** in the same room together? I mean the similarities in reasoning are startling; blame the evil lib’rals for everything wrong in society.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/36 "2012-02-20T22:27:20Z")

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To be quite candid, I’m not comfortable with the use, in contemporary discourse (particularly contemporary _political_ discourse) of the word “Christendom” itself. It bears too many connotations of countries having “official” religions, and terms such as “blasphemy” having legal meaning in the civil and criminal codes.

It’s probably just my personal baggage.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/37 "2012-02-20T23:07:21Z")

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Santorum really should pump the breaks on all the Christian talk. It’s not going to take the evangelicals long before they realize he ain’t a real Christian, with all that Pope loving, Mary worshipping, and funny Latin talking them Catholics do.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/38 "2012-02-20T23:11:39Z")

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Rick: What IS this frothy mix of fecal matter and cum sliding out of your bunghole, sir?

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/39 "2012-02-20T23:12:56Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> [Santorum Says:](http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Santorum-Global-warming-is-politics-not-science-3344022.php)
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> He said this in the context of climate change research, which he denies is actually science:
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> So I guess all of those researchers who are working on Climate Science are all just massive frauds. Santorum has spoken.

Mr. Santorum Y U NO LIKE [POPE](http://ncronline.org/news/vatican/benedict-issues-forceful-environmental-message)?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/40 "2012-02-20T23:24:05Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> What’s a few hundred years in the Dark Ages?

About the same as a few hundred years in the modern age, give or take a year or two to adjust for inflation ;).

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