# Stupid Santorumisms

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 20, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417 "2012-02-20T14:10:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/101 "2012-02-22T04:28:57Z")

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> [@MacCat](#):
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> “They are taking faith and crushing it. Why? When you marginalize faith in America, when you remove the pillar of God-given rights then what’s left is the French Revolution. What’s left is a government that gives you rights. What’s left are no unalienable rights. What’s left is a government that will tell you who you are, what you’ll do and when you’ll do it. What’s left in France became the the guillotine.”
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> [http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/09/santorum-obama-leading-christians-to-the-guillotine/](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/09/santorum-obama-leading-christians-to-the-guillotine/)

It’s my expectation that’s probably an example of playing to people like the [24% of Republicans](http://www.livescience.com/8160-quarter-republicans-obama-anti-christ.html) who think Obama is the Antichrist. Apparently the Christian Apocalypse fans have a whole conspiracy theory going about how US military bases have guillotines all set up for the upcoming mass beheading of Christians by the Antichrist/New World Order. Google Christianity + guillotines and you’ll get quite the eyeful of lunacy.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/102 "2012-02-22T04:51:15Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> From **luci** ’s article: Was this uttered like he was acknowledging that sexual freedom leads to gayness, and he didn’t realize he was outing his unspoken urges? Is he another Republican repressed gay man?

That’s a good catch. It’s sort of like when people say being gay is a choice, they are pretty much outing themselves as bisexual or gay.

Speaking as an actual straight man, I realize I could not choose to be sexually attracted to men. Hell, I don’t even choose which women I’m attracted to, let alone the fact that it is women.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/103 "2012-02-22T04:58:07Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> That’s a good catch. It’s sort of like when people say being gay is a choice, they are pretty much outing themselves as bisexual or gay.
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> Speaking as an actual straight man, I realize I could not choose to be sexually attracted to men. Hell, I don’t even choose which women I’m attracted to, let alone the fact that it is women.

Or really, _anything_ that’s a matter of taste. I didn’t choose to like spaghetti and pepperoni pizza any more than I chose to find women attractive. Dieting would be a heck of a lot easier if people could just say “OK, from now on I like brussel sprouts and cabbage” and make it so.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/104 "2012-02-22T05:15:13Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> . . . Google Christianity + guillotines and you’ll get quite the eyeful of lunacy.

I thought you were exaggerating… Holy spit! Those people have foresworn human intellect and are thinking entirely out of their anuses!

(Sheesh! Even my anus can think more clearly than those guys!)

This stuff makes the Time Cube look rational in comparison!

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/105 "2012-02-22T05:27:52Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> If we do not do this, then we are no more than animals rutting in the mud. Filthy animals screwing for pure pleasure. Groaning and moaning with lust as they perform in a wide variety of positions and maybe even with many partners at the same time, and with pictures and everything and Oh my God!!!

Don’t forget Man On Dog…

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/106 "2012-02-22T05:30:04Z")

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The first time he meets the Pope, he’ll probably lecture the guy for not being Catholic enough.

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> It’s my expectation that’s probably an example of playing to people like the [24% of Republicans](http://www.livescience.com/8160-quarter-republicans-obama-anti-christ.html) who think Obama is the Antichrist. Apparently the Christian Apocalypse fans have a whole conspiracy theory going about how US military bases have guillotines all set up for the upcoming mass beheading of Christians by the Antichrist/New World Order. Google Christianity + guillotines and you’ll get quite the eyeful of lunacy.

Yeah, but Rick being a Catholic wouldn’t believe in the whole Apocalypse thing – that’s a Protestant belief.

Rick’s just fucking scary.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/107 "2012-02-22T05:51:07Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> The first time he meets the Pope, he’ll probably lecture the guy for not being Catholic enough.

He reminds me of the OLD Family Guy, where Peter hijacks the Pope (JPII, wow it’s old) to convince his dad to be nicer. His father then proceeds to harangue John Paul for not being strict enough.

Also, sometimes I think that the old adulterer Gingrich is a better Catholic than Santorum. The latter is pretty much a fundamentalist. You’re not required to believe in things like evolution (or contraception even, if you’re American…) if you’re a Catholic, but not believing puts you a bit outside the mainstream.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/108 "2012-02-22T06:01:31Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Google Christianity + guillotines and you’ll get quite the eyeful of lunacy.

Whoa, we have guillotines on our military bases? Cool.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/109 "2012-02-22T06:15:40Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> There are two problems with this plan.
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> [ol]  
> [li]Voters.[/li][ul]  
> [li]There are people out there who hate Obama so much they will vote for anyone to get him out of office.[/li][li]There are lots of hardcore Republicans out there who will vote Republican no matter who the nominee is.[/li][li]There are a lot of really, really stupid people out there who believe the drivel being spoon fed them by the likes of O’Reilly and Limbaugh.[/li][/ul]  
> [li]The Republican Party appears to have ceased to exist as anything but a vehicle for the most hardline conservatives. Should Santorum win the nomination but lose the election, I can almost guarantee you that the party response will not be, “Damn, maybe we went too far. How’s about we move a bit back more to the middle?” It will be, “Damnit, I knew we weren’t conservative enough! We gotta double-down on our hardline Christianity and tax cuts! Who’s next?”[/li][/ol]

There will always be the base, in America winning with 60% of the popular vote is a twice in a century landslide.

The FOX news spin crap is \*why \*Santorum is great, Romney will never be the GOP’s boy, if nominated FOX and friends will throw bile at Obama relentlessly and WHEN Romney loses that’ll be ok because conservatives really didn’t care for him anyway, but the hostility for Obama will remain, the divisiveness will continue to fester.

If Santorum is nominated the core of Republican values will be on display, uncompromised, for the moderates they’ll be polished and refined to trigger ancient animosities but from the mouth of Santorum they’ll come off as intransigent, xenophobic, and backward. And you naysayers will argue he’ll refine his image and polish his turds but I disagree, what Palin is to stupid he is to ‘family values’, and this election will change the meaning for Americans of those two words.

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**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/110 "2012-02-22T08:05:54Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Whoa, we have guillotines on our military bases? Cool.

A typical example of government inefficiency and waste. The private sector would come up with some kind of mass decapitation device from a helicopter rotor and Ginsu stake knives.

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**Author:** ![Mekhazzio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Mekhazzio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mekhazzio)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/111 "2012-02-22T08:11:47Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> It’s my expectation that’s probably an example of playing to people like the [24% of Republicans](http://www.livescience.com/8160-quarter-republicans-obama-anti-christ.html) who think Obama is the Antichrist. Apparently the Christian Apocalypse fans have a whole conspiracy theory going about how US military bases have guillotines all set up for the upcoming mass beheading of Christians by the Antichrist/New World Order. Google Christianity + guillotines and you’ll get quite the eyeful of lunacy.

Wow. Because the military needs guillotines to kill people quickly and efficiently? Or is this some sort of _Highlander_ thing, where the head must be removed to absorb their epic faith power?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/112 "2012-02-22T08:29:57Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Whoa, we have guillotines on our military bases? Cool.

I hear they’re stored in the brass ball at the top of the flag pole.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/113 "2012-02-22T13:44:29Z")

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> [@Mekhazzio](#):
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> Wow. Because the military needs guillotines to kill people quickly and efficiently? Or is this some sort of _Highlander_ thing, where the head must be removed to absorb their epic faith power?

It has to be decapitation to fulfill [a prophecy in Revelation](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+20:4&version=NIV). Still, I would think American ingenuity could improve on 18th century technology from the French Revolution for separating heads from necks. Maybe if we got Apple Computer working on it…

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/114 "2012-02-22T14:21:54Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> … Google Christianity + guillotines and you’ll get quite the eyeful of lunacy.

:eek: At least we can look forward to full employment for us tumbrel drivers!

> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#):
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> … Ginsu stake knives.

For the [Xian zombie vampyres](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6YascSpaEU), right? 😉

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Now, Universe, I know I haven’t been a very good pantheist, but if you arrange things so Ricky Retardo comes out against the musical _Hair_, I’d take it for a Sign…

What, ya think _Jesus Christ Superstar_ and/or _Godspell_\* would just be way too easy for the Universe to pull off?

😃  
CMC fnord!

- Being a Methodist, in the 1970’s, leads directly to knowing way too many songs from _Godspell_. I swear [Reverend Phil](http://www.nj.com/suburbannews/index.ssf/2010/03/oratorio_singers_of_westfield.html) (AKA the Minister of Music) never _looked_ like a hippie!

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/115 "2012-02-22T14:34:56Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> Oh blerg, now who looks stupid? 😛
> 
> Sorry, **Ann** I misread your post. That absolutely should be directed at the person who made that statement, in this case, Rick Santorum.

Well, I misread yours, I NEVER thought it was directed at me…so we are even and happy !!

I’m really suprised Ricky’s anti-evolution stance hasn’t become MORE of an issue…google Santorum Amendment.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/116 "2012-02-22T14:37:20Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Or really, _anything_ that’s a matter of taste. I didn’t choose to like spaghetti and pepperoni pizza any more than I chose to find women attractive. Dieting would be a heck of a lot easier if people could just say “OK, from now on I like brussel sprouts and cabbage” and make it so.

Naw, a guy like you, with no self-control would probably get as big as a house AND cause localized cabbage and brussels sprouts shortages.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/117 "2012-02-22T15:33:16Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Naw, a guy like you, with no self-control would probably get as big as a house AND cause localized cabbage and brussels sprouts shortages.

Not to mention _really_ adding to greenhouse gas emissions!

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**Author:** ![Aro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b3f665/32.png) [@Aro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aro)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/118 "2012-02-22T16:49:32Z")

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Does anyone else think there’s a possibility that Santorum is actually gay, knows he’s gay, and his total obsession with ensuring all things are ‘non-gay’ is his way of reflecting this and convincing himself otherwise? There’s just too much anger, smugness and superiority in his actions for him to be anything other than a repressed, guilt-ridden closeted man with what he sees as a huge gorilla on his back.

I think the same thing of Old Freddie Phelps too – huge amounts of guilt hidden by religious fervour, constantly berating others for their ‘sins’, having lots and lots of kids to ‘prove’ his heterosexual manlinessand deflect attention from his real cravings etc… Same story as the old guy in ‘American Beauty’too.

Methinks he doth protest too much. They all protest too much. MUCH too much.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/119 "2012-02-22T17:00:53Z")

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> [@XaMcQ](#):
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> Inspired by **gracer’s** reporting of Santorum claiming that 10% of all deaths in the Netherlands were from euthanasia, and that half of those were involuntary, I thought I’d start a thread to collect some of the idiotic things that this supposedly serious candidate has said.

Is everybody sitting down?  
[Apparently his statements about a ten percent euthanasia rate, and half of those involuntary - are untrue.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/euthanasia-in-the-netherlands-rick-santorums-bogus-statistics/2012/02/21/gIQAJaRbSR_blog.html?hpid=z2)

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/120 "2012-02-22T17:05:17Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Is everybody sitting down?

He’s becoming Rick Perry hilarious.

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