# Stupid Santorumisms **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 20, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417 "2012-02-20T14:10:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/121 "2012-02-22T18:47:20Z")
> [@Aro](#): > > Does anyone else think there’s a possibility that Santorum is actually gay, knows he’s gay, and his total obsession with ensuring all things are ‘non-gay’ is his way of reflecting this and convincing himself otherwise? There’s just too much anger, smugness and superiority in his actions for him to be anything other than a repressed, guilt-ridden closeted man with what he sees as a huge gorilla on his back. > > I think the same thing of Old Freddie Phelps too – huge amounts of guilt hidden by religious fervour, constantly berating others for their ‘sins’, having lots and lots of kids to ‘prove’ his heterosexual manlinessand deflect attention from his real cravings etc.. Same story as the old guy in ‘American Beauty’too. > > Methinks he doth protest too much. They all protest too much. MUCH too much. I believe the “homophobia is caused by deeply closeted homosexually” thing is a myth. It’s easy to gloat when one does get caught in a motel with three meth shooting male prostitutes, but it should not imply that that is always the case. Some people are just dickish homophobes on their own. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/122 "2012-02-22T18:50:52Z")
> [@Mekhazzio](#): > > Wow. Because the military needs guillotines to kill people quickly and efficiently? Or is this some sort of _Highlander_ thing, where the head must be removed to absorb their epic faith power? Ha, I just had a vision of Jesus showing up, then decapitating the first Christian he runs across while yelling “there can be only one!” > [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > I believe the “homophobia is caused by deeply closeted homosexually” thing is a myth. There does seem to be a significant correlation between the intense homophobia and suppressed homosexuality according to various scientific studies. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/123 "2012-02-22T18:56:24Z")
**thelurkinghorror** did not deny that, **DT** (not that you actually accused him of doing so). He merely implied that the correlation should be appreciated for the beautiful thing that it is, and not pressed into service as a sociologically established fact. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/124 "2012-02-22T19:09:22Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > … > There does seem to be a significant correlation between the intense homophobia and suppressed homosexuality according to various scientific studies. And according to a lot of anecdotal evidence; it seems whenever I hear “the elected official was seen coming out of a gay bar…with an underage boy…with his pants down…” it’s almost always a right-winger that had railed against gay rights. ---
**Author:** ![Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hypnagogic_jerk/32/4252_2.png) [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypnagogic_Jerk)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/125 "2012-02-22T19:13:38Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > He reminds me of the OLD Family Guy, where Peter hijacks the Pope (JPII, wow it’s old) to convince his dad to be nicer. His father then proceeds to harangue John Paul for not being strict enough. Nitpick: while this episode was produced when John Paul was Pope, the Family Guy Pope wasn’t John Paul. He was portrayed as speaking with an Italian accent, for one. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/126 "2012-02-22T19:19:22Z")
Yeah, _The Family Guy_ is notorious for their near-fanatical devotion to fact checking and historical accuracy. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/127 "2012-02-22T19:44:12Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Ha, I just had a vision of Jesus showing up, then decapitating the first Christian he runs across while yelling “there can be only one!” It’s a damn shame the Highlander TV series didn’t have the balls to do that story arc. It’s a natural too - an immortal started Christianity in order to get people to be nicer to each other, and comes out of hiding on occasion to take out whoever is currently perverting his message. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/128 "2012-02-22T19:48:15Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > It’s easy to gloat when one does get caught in a motel with three meth shooting male prostitutes… Not only easy but karmically appropriate for the harm these tools cause. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/129 "2012-02-22T19:51:04Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > It’s a damn shame the Highlander TV series didn’t have the balls to do that story arc. It’s a natural too - an immortal started Christianity in order to get people to be nicer to each other, and comes out of hiding on occasion to take out whoever is currently perverting his message. TV & movies are like that; like _Stargate SG1_ going out of their way to say Jesus wasn’t a Goa’uld. In fact (checks) there’s a TV Tropes page on it; [No Such Thing as Wizard Jesus](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoSuchThingAsWizardJesus). Jesus is never an alien, wizard, psychic, or whatever; other religious figures can be but not Jesus. At least in the visual media; I’ve seen various written fiction where he is. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/130 "2012-02-22T20:00:07Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > This isn’t here yet? When I saw this on last night’s round of news shows I thought for sure someone would run to post it. > > Stupid made-up right to privacy making whores of us all! [Watch him say that here.](http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/20/10460819-santorum-privacy-ruined-everything?fb_ref=.T0McdikpwWg.like&fb_source=home_multiline) Psst…post #48. But I’m invisible, so that’s OK. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/131 "2012-02-22T20:08:04Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > But I’m invisible, so that’s OK. Don’t be too sure. You’re familiar with The Emperor’s New Clothes? ---
**Author:** ![Donteach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed655f/32.png) [@Donteach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donteach)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/132 "2012-02-22T21:31:54Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > We’re talking about a religious tradition which says the exact same thing to kids with birth defects – in fact, in the 19th Century there was a whole genre of tracts in America preaching that message. Yes, a 19th century tradition. Slavery was a “tradition” at one time in America and so was the tradition of denying women the right to vote. Santorum is an anachronism who, if given the chance, would set the country back to the Puritanical era. Why would you force a woman who was raped to carry the child to term and then care for a reminder of such a reprehensible act?? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/133 "2012-02-22T21:41:13Z")
> [@Donteach](#): > > Why would you force a woman who was raped to carry the child to term and then care for a reminder of such a reprehensible act?? \ Because it is God’s will, and the baby is a gift. If she prays hard enough, God will give her the strength to carry on. If she is finding it difficult to accept her rape baby gift, this simply means that she lacks faith, or is not praying enough. \ I honestly believe that this is what he is thinking. He’s also possibly thinking “only sluts get raped, she was probably asking for it, so she deserves the consequences of her slutty behavior” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/134 "2012-02-22T21:48:50Z")
No child should be raised by someone unwilling to raise a child. Its tough enough to do it when you love the snot-sleeved, scabby-kneed little shits! ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/135 "2012-02-22T22:42:31Z")
**Santorum** “All the rights in the Constitution, which are individually based rights, according to our founders were not there for the individual’s gain, but the reason we established those rights was for the common good.” Sounds like _Socialism_ to me! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/136 "2012-02-22T22:45:45Z")
Romney is doing similar crap. They seem to be convinced that the best way to back away from an extreme position is to offer the opposite extreme the very next day. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/137 "2012-02-22T23:50:32Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > \ > > Because it is God’s will, and the baby is a gift. If she prays hard enough, God will give her the strength to carry on. If she is finding it difficult to accept her rape baby gift, this simply means that she lacks faith, or is not praying enough. > > \ > > I honestly believe that this is what he is thinking. He’s also possibly thinking “only sluts get raped, she was probably asking for it, so she deserves the consequences of her slutty behavior” Well, there is the Republican politico (can’t recall the name, and I find the subject too nauseating to spend a lot of time looking) who said in all seriousness that if a woman was really, truly raped against her will, then the Holy Spirit would protect her from the consequences. So if she became pregnant or contracted some “loathsome disease,” she was a willing participant in her heart of hearts. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/138 "2012-02-23T02:14:33Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > **Santorum** “All the rights in the Constitution, which are individually based rights, according to our founders were not there for the individual’s gain, but the reason we established those rights was for the common good.” > > Sounds like _Socialism_ to me! Even worse, it’s the kind of thinking that produces an ethos of: “From each according to his abilities; to each according to his needs.” It’s… it’s… COMMUNISM!!! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/139 "2012-02-23T03:55:35Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Well, there is the Republican politico (can’t recall the name, and I find the subject too nauseating to spend a lot of time looking) who said in all seriousness that if a woman was really, truly raped against her will, then the Holy Spirit would protect her from the consequences. So if she became pregnant or contracted some “loathsome disease,” she was a willing participant in her heart of hearts. I’m pretty sure that was Sharron Angle. In fact, I think it was some comment about making lemons into lemonade. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/140 "2012-02-23T12:41:11Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > I believe the “homophobia is caused by deeply closeted homosexually” thing is a myth. It’s easy to gloat when one does get caught in a motel with three meth shooting male prostitutes, but it should not imply that that is always the case. Some people are just dickish homophobes on their own. It’s not “one” getting caught (albeit not necessarily with three partners and/or meth and/or financial consideration) – it’s one after another after another after another, to the point where dismissing the pattern as a “myth” becomes willful blindness. That said, there probably are some “just dickish homophobes” in the mix. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417.md?page=8)