# Stupid Santorumisms **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 20, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417 "2012-02-20T14:10:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/141 "2012-02-23T13:58:42Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > I believe the “homophobia is caused by deeply closeted homosexually” thing is a myth. It’s easy to gloat when one does get caught in a motel with three meth shooting male prostitutes, but it should not imply that that is always the case. Some people are just dickish homophobes on their own. I agree: when the dickish homophobe isn’t just an anti-gay one-note Charlie, but is also against women’s reproductive rights, the issue goes deeper than Mr. Santorum’s prostate’s unacknowledged yearning for tender caress. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/142 "2012-02-23T14:28:53Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Well, there is the Republican politico (can’t recall the name, and I find the subject too nauseating to spend a lot of time looking) who said in all seriousness that if a woman was really, truly raped against her will, then the Holy Spirit would protect her from the consequences. So if she became pregnant or contracted some “loathsome disease,” she was a willing participant in her heart of hearts. I think for people who hold convictions like that(that such a pregnancy is _your fault_, that disease is _your fault_, etc.) the only way they would be convinced otherwise would be for it to happen to them. Not that I would actually wish that on them, but I do believe that nothing else would suffice to change their minds. I am curious about how she explains pregnant 8-year-old incest victims though. I would like to put that image in her head and have her think about it very very hard. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/143 "2012-02-23T20:45:31Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > Psst…post #48. But I’m invisible, so that’s OK. You must be! I swear I read through the whole thread, sure someone had mentioned it. Or I’m blind. That must be it. Blind as a bat, good thing I know how to touch type. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/144 "2012-02-23T20:51:29Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > I think for people who hold convictions like that(that such a pregnancy is _your fault_, that disease is _your fault_, etc.) the only way they would be convinced otherwise would be for it to happen to them. [The only moral abortion is my abortion](http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html) ---
**Author:** ![cjepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@cjepson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cjepson)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/145 "2012-02-23T21:11:15Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > Headline on Drudge is ‘Santorum’s Satan Warning’. Developing… > > Should be good. Well, there’s this, from a 2008 speech in Florida: “Satan has his sights on the United States of America… Satan is attacking the great institutions of America, using those great vices of pride, vanity, and sensuality as the root to attack all of the strong plants that have so deeply rooted in the American tradition.” ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/146 "2012-02-23T21:10:59Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > [Santorum says](http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/01/23/409242/santorum-to-rape-victims-make-the-best-out-of-a-bad-situation/): Victims of rape who get pregnant should accept their “gift” of a baby, and “accept what God has given to you.” > > So you pregnant rape victims. Suck it up, and “make the best of a bad situation”, says Rick. I wonder what he would say about a lesbian getting pregnant by rape and keeping the baby? > [@DianaG](#): > > As a brilliant friend of mine said “Apparently he believes that when life hands you rape, you need to make rapenade.” I just emailed this to a lesbian I know who got pregnant by rape and is raising the child with her wife. > [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Well, there is the Republican politico (can’t recall the name, and I find the subject too nauseating to spend a lot of time looking) who said in all seriousness that if a woman was really, truly raped against her will, then the Holy Spirit would protect her from the consequences. So if she became pregnant or contracted some “loathsome disease,” she was a willing participant in her heart of hearts. Does this apply to lesbians? Whenever I debate the anti-abortion people and the subject of rape comes up, I immediately tell them about the lesbian mentioned above. Boy, can they change that tune in a hurry. “She should have the baby and give it to a real family.” ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/147 "2012-02-23T21:30:38Z")
> [@cjepson](#): > > Well, there’s this, from a 2008 speech in Florida: > > “Satan has his sights on the United States of America… Satan is attacking the great institutions of America, using those great vices of pride, vanity, and sensuality as the root to attack **all of the strong plants** that have so deeply rooted in the American tradition.” Wacky Weed? ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/148 "2012-02-23T23:04:42Z")
[Photo](http://fromtheleft.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/santorum_ice_cream_2.jpg) offered without comment. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/149 "2012-02-24T01:01:16Z")
It would be chocolate, too. ---
**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2012, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/150 "2012-02-24T09:34:24Z")
We don’t need Satan when we have Rick Santorum. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/151 "2012-02-25T02:41:49Z")
I am glad that Santorum will soon sink into obscurity, or this thread might eventually overtake (in number of posts) the log-running Stupid Republican Idea of the Day. A surprisingly large percentage of the Republican ideas seem to e coming out of Santorum’s mouth. Just in the last couple days: 1. Eliminate all federal _and_ state funding of education. 2. And by the way, America, stop donate money to colleges and universities. 3. The Netherlands kills most of their old people to save money. Please please _puhlease_ let him beat Romney and be the Republican nominee. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/152 "2012-02-25T03:47:47Z")
First, there is nothing so weird that it cannot happen in the world of politics. Any truly democratic system of governance will bear a striking resemblance to herding cats, and as we progress towards equality it will only get more so. If you truly love democracy, you marry her even though you know she is part crazy all of the time, and totally crazy some of the time. Romney is a cipher, a vacuum in an expensive suit. Nature abhors a vacuum, and so do we. But that only points out his most significant characteristic, he is malleable. If he thought promising to have John Lennon’s head carved on Mt. Rushmore would get him elected, he would do it. If the Legislature is sufficiently progressive, and the people in a mostly sane phase, he would be, in Douglas Adam’s phrase “mostly harmless”. Rick Santorum is for real, I’m convinced of it. He believes what he says. And he will lead! Even if nobody wants to follow, he will lead. He will do whats right even if 80% of America begs him not to. If Santorum wins, I’m stockpiling ammunition. Don’t have a gun, but I figure I can trade the ammo for lap dances and drugs. Anyway, hoping for Santorum to be nominated is not good risk management. Of course, there’s pretty much no chance that such hopes as ours make any difference. But why chance it? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/153 "2012-02-25T07:15:38Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > 1. Eliminate all federal _and_ state funding of education. Except of course, when it comes time to [steal from the state to pay for your kids education in the neighboring state](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Santorum#Pennsylvania_residency). But we shall not speak of that, oh no. ---
**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/154 "2012-02-25T09:49:29Z")
I don’t get where these people come up with the crap they say. Be catholic, or mormon or protestant, shut the fuck up, and quit using your religion to bludgeon everyone else. What the fuck is up with the current GOP obsessive need to legislate what women can do with their bodies? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/155 "2012-02-25T12:22:21Z")
> [@anya\_marie](#): > > What the fuck is up with the current GOP obsessive need to legislate what women can do with their bodies? It used to be the norm. Social conservatives are nothing if not hip with traditions. Add a healthy dose of post hoc ergo propter hoc, and every societal ill can be blamed on having dared to change those traditions. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/156 "2012-02-25T12:32:37Z")
I have to wonder, if Santorum actually were to be the nominee and continued to spout off like his is now, could Obama avoid using phrases like “genuinely insane” and “dangerously delusional” in his campaign rhetoric? I think he would want to avoid it, but how else can it be described? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/157 "2012-02-25T15:24:34Z")
Georgie! _Tirebiter_! He’s not _insane_! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/158 "2012-02-25T15:37:26Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > could Obama avoid using phrases like “genuinely insane” and “dangerously delusional” in his campaign rhetoric? Sure, and he ought to. His “brand” is that of a smart, calm, serious adult, and he shouldn’t do anything to bring that into doubt. All he’d have to do is continue to let Santorum get himself into trouble, and make sure the contrast with himself is clear. The same is essentially true if Romney is the nominee, too. It’s only a matter of degree between Romney and Santorum. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/159 "2012-02-25T23:39:11Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > . . . could Obama avoid using phrases like “genuinely insane” and “dangerously delusional” in his campaign rhetoric? It would work better for Obama to simply point out what is wrong with Santorum’s statements, and leave the invective up to the press. A nut looks even nuttier when he’s arguing with someone who’s calm and rational. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2012, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417/160 "2012-02-26T00:22:13Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Georgie! _Tirebiter_! He’s not _insane_! Ah, George Leroy Tirebiter… (or as a young’un: Porgie Tirebiter… ‘He’s a spy and a girl-delighter…’) [Hey, George has his own Facebook page!](http://www.facebook.com/people/George-Leroy-Tirebiter/100001183345421) Actually, wasn’t it those Firesign Theater guys that pointed out that [Thomas Eagleton](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7755888) was the only candidate Certified Not Insane? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-santorumisms/613417.md?page=9)