# Stupid school administrators and uniforms **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2003, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265 "2003-12-11T03:53:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/41 "2003-12-13T04:36:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by county \* > \*\*And that, for the most part, is how it should be, they are children. \*\* Your mindnumbing stupidity is simply awesome. When you aren’t parking in fire lanes, or beating people with axe handles, you’re egging on bullies. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/42 "2003-12-13T04:40:28Z")
Jesus Christ! Because they are children, they shoiuld be subject to horiffic abuse, such that suicide is a leading cause of death? Where you dropped on your head as a baby? Do you posess the slightest shred of compassion? ---
**Author:** ![Palewriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/db5fbb/32.png) [@Palewriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palewriter)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/43 "2003-12-13T04:49:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ilsa\_Lund \* > \*\*Jesus Christ! Because they are children, they shoiuld be subject to horiffic abuse, such that suicide is a leading cause of death? Where you dropped on your head as a baby? Do you posess the slightest shred of compassion? \*\* Gee. I hate it when people can’t say what they REALLY think. 😃 Child abusers shoud be given special attention. By other inmates. - PW ---
**Author:** ![E.T.Bass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9fc29f/32.png) [@E.T.Bass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E.T.Bass)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/44 "2003-12-13T04:51:05Z")
Back in the early 1980s (the good old days) before school shootings and gangs, my large public high school had a dress code (all common sense), 1.) No hats inside the school. 2.) Shirts should be tucked in. 3.) No T-shirts with crap on them like “Budweiser”, pot leaves and the like. Concert shirts were acceptable. 4.) No shorts or skirts over the kneecaps (we had some Scandanavian students bitch about this in August, and this was in Tennessee) 5.) Problem never came up, (pre Brittany and rap) but no low riding pants. No underwear showing. Anybody caught violating said rules was sent home to change clothes. This happened to several girls with the short skirts. Now, the Memphis city school kids have to wear the white shirt and khaki bit everyday. On another note, I had to see the school police officer because I was showing a school friend a hunting knife. I apologized for it to him, the cop was not angry, gave it back to me and let me on my way. See, the school cop knew who the assholes were and who the good kids (reletively) were. Clothes makes that easier to distinguish. Clothes are a good indicator of personality. A new wardrobe does not solve the school problems. ET ---
**Author:** ![Astra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@Astra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astra)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/45 "2003-12-13T05:22:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by qts \* > \*\*I read the original article and I don’t see the pit-worthiness of the OP. Like Obsidian, I went to a school which had a uniform - and we had to buy clothes from particular shops too. In fact, every school I attended mandated a uniform. I didn’t have a problem with it. Two reasons for wearing a uniform I haven’t seen mentioned are discipline and esprit de corps. Just like in the military. As previously mentioned, clothes no longer become a mark of division. \*\* You don’t have a problem with a school changing policies in the middle of a school year or the fact that administrators are trying to have a student punished for distributing a newspaper clipping that proves just how little they care about their students? ---
**Author:** ![Astra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@Astra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astra)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/46 "2003-12-13T05:25:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by county \* > \*\*I see people posting about their rights and think WTF, you gonna let them buy liquor and vote also. \*\* Many seniors are 18 and therefore can vote. ---
**Author:** ![Obsidian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/51bf81/32.png) [@Obsidian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Obsidian)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/47 "2003-12-13T05:26:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by county \* > \*\*And that, for the most part, is how it should be, they are children. \*\* I’m sorry, but are you a moron? I was quoting _your_ post when I said that. You said: The only right children have is not to be abused. I said: We don’t give them that right currently. (ie, they are abused) You said: That’s how it should be. So, do kids have the right to be free from abuse or not? ---
**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/48 "2003-12-13T05:48:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Obsidian \* > \*\*I’m sorry, but are you a moron? I was quoting _your_ post when I said that. > > You said: The only right children have is not to be abused. > > I said: We don’t give them that right currently. (ie, they are abused) > > You said: That’s how it should be. > > So, do kids have the right to be free from abuse or not? \*\* No, not a moron. Sorry, I was responding to the part of your post about criminal charges (if one child was able to file assault charges against another in a minor fracas or initiating lawsuits for childish actions). Yes, children have the right to be free from abuse, sexual or otherwise. But I disagree with the removal of corporal punishment from schools. ---
**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/49 "2003-12-13T05:52:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ilsa\_Lund \* > \*\*Jesus Christ! Because they are children, they shoiuld be subject to horiffic abuse, such that suicide is a leading cause of death? Where you dropped on your head as a baby? Do you posess the slightest shred of compassion? \*\* No, not dropped on my head. I am opposed to child-suicide. Am I the first person you have ever encountered who doesn’t share your world view? And I really wish you would explain that “milk carton” remark. ---
**Author:** ![Obsidian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/51bf81/32.png) [@Obsidian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Obsidian)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/50 "2003-12-13T06:12:28Z")
I’m not talking about minor fracasas. I think that when adults file assault charges over a shoving match in a bar they should be taken out back and shot. We are an embarassingly litigious society. However, I think that there are some things kids are allowed to do to each other that should be a crime. (or at least punished in the same serious manner) Example: You’re a guy right? Let’s say you are. If you shoved a woman (say, at your workplace) into a corner, pulled up her skirt and groped her, would you be surprized it the cops knocked on your door? How about if you slammed someone’s head against the ground so hard they went to the ER with a concussion? There was more to this, but I don’t feel like hijacking this thread with a topic that is argued into the ground so often around here anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/51 "2003-12-13T15:18:20Z")
> [@](#): > > But I disagree with the removal of corporal punishment from schools. Bring on the axe handles. > [@](#): > > Am I the first person you have ever encountered who doesn’t share your world view? > > And I really wish you would explain that “milk carton” remark. No, your just the first person I’ve met stupid enough to share _your_ worldview. Pictures of missing children are found on milk cartons. Pictures of your ability for rational thought are found on the back of milk cartons. ---
**Author:** ![Idlewild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8491ac/32.png) [@Idlewild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idlewild)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/52 "2003-12-13T16:12:41Z")
In regard to the kid bringing the article to school and being accused of inciting riots, I’m thoroughly grateful that I don’t have to go to school any more. At my high-school we used to organise sit-ins to try to persuade the administration to our point of view and no-one ever really got in any kind of trouble for that. (The administration just ignored us. Smart, really.) I hate to think what kind of response that’d generate these days. ---
**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/53 "2003-12-13T18:28:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ilsa\_Lund \* > \*\*Bring on the axe handles. > > Pictures of missing children are found on milk cartons. Pictures of your ability for rational thought are found on the back of milk cartons. \*\* I have never said nor do I believe that “axe handles” are appropriate for the administering of corporal punishment in our schools. And, are you saying that those children are missing because they don’t have the ability for rational thoughts? or are you saying that those missing children think like me? or, is English your second language? ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/54 "2003-12-13T18:33:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by county \* > \*\*I have never said nor do I believe that “axe handles” are appropriate for the administering of corporal punishment in our schools. > > And, are you saying that those children are missing because they don’t have the ability for rational thoughts? or are you saying that those missing children think like me? or, is English your second language? \*\* You are so dense that Torricelli could have taken your shit and made functional barometer out of it. ---
**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/55 "2003-12-13T19:13:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ilsa\_Lund \* > \*\*You are so dense that Torricelli could have taken your shit and made functional barometer out of it. \*\* Ok, enough’s enough: If you want to, Bite Me. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/56 "2003-12-13T19:43:23Z")
I have. [Here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=229084) ---
**Author:** ![Astra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@Astra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astra)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/57 "2003-12-17T03:25:38Z")
[The stupidity continues](http://www.picayuneitem.com/display/inn_news/02sumrall.txt) Also, sorry if the previous links no longer work, the paper doesn’t have an online archive for anything older than 14 days. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Saint\_Zero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Zero)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/58 "2003-12-17T03:51:23Z")
Yeah, that’s about right for them. Parent’s didn’t bend over and take it, now the big bad administrators have to hurt the student. Idiots. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/59 "2003-12-17T03:57:26Z")
It seems to me that if Justin loses his opportunity for a scholarship over this, he’s got a case against the school and the district. Small, petty people doing small, petty things out of spite. Sometimes, I wish I weren’t an adult. Robin ---
**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265/60 "2003-12-17T03:59:46Z")
Well, you (or at least I) don’t have the right to distribute whatever literature that I see fit, in my workplace as I see fit, even if I am at lunch or whatever. Isn’t this a similar circumstance? And yes, I believe in freedom of speech, I am asking a question. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-school-administrators-and-uniforms/218265.md?page=4)