# Stupid Social Justice Warrior Bullshit O' the Day. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 17, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443 "2017-03-17T22:14:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 100
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1982 "2017-08-24T22:04:49Z")
As an American Indian, I find it ridiculous when people try and lump Columbus in with everyone else and more so to call him a slippery slope. That GENOCIDAL FAILURE of an explorer who became a thing almost accidentally should have been the first to go a long ass fucking time ago, but since Natives have been all but wiped out, they don’t have as loud of a voice. Which is why you will STILL see them portrayed as ‘spiritual folk of the land’ and spoken of as if they ARN’T a disparate group of people with 100’s of tribes. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1983 "2017-08-24T22:06:28Z")
> [@eulalia](#): > > Whenever I go to Germany nearly everyone mispronounces my name because there’s a ‘th’ and a j in it. I do not get bent out of shape about it. Who names their kid Thujone? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1984 "2017-08-25T00:04:02Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > This idea that something that happens to you happens because you are a minority. Sometimes it’s just something that happens to everyone. In the case of name pronunciation, nearly everyone who doesn’t speak your language is going to butcher your name. Depends. I’m reminded of the response of the mother of [the Nigerian actor Uzoamaka Aduba](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/26/uzo-aduba-name_n_5534112.html) when she told her mother she wanted to change her first name to Zoe because “nobody can pronounce it”: > [@](#): > > If they can learn to say Tchaikovsky and Michelangelo and Dostoyevsky, they can learn to say Uzoamaka. It’s not about the intrinsic difficulty of pronouncing a particular foreign name. It’s about the fact that some types of difficult foreign names are presented as more “normal” and consequently there’s an expectation that speakers should and will learn to pronounce them, while other types of difficult foreign names are just regarded as “exotic” and “weird” and nobody should be expected to get them right. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1985 "2017-08-25T03:41:46Z")
Nancy Pelosi, never very good when it comes to the Constitution, says, "You can’t yell ‘wolf’ in a crowded theater [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/92sXx-s-qkg/maxresdefault.jpg "Nancy Pelosi: “The constitution does not say that a person can yell wolf in a crowded theater”") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92sXx-s-qkg) Three problems here which make this especially stupid: 1. It’s yell fire, not wolf 2. She’s quoting bad law, the actual functioning precedent is Brandenburg vs. Ohio. Why people continue to use that quote is beyond me, since it was part of an opinion that was overturned like 100 years ago 3. She endorses the hecklers veto, inferring that if an alt right protest incites violence from the other side, they can’t speak. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1986 "2017-08-25T04:34:32Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Nancy Pelosi, never very good when it comes to the Constitution, says, "You can’t yell ‘wolf’ in a crowded theater Ah yes, that old story about “the boy who cried fire” 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1987 "2017-08-25T05:48:14Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > “here’s something bad that minorities face, and sure it’s not a big deal all by itself, but it’s one of many factors that make it hard for them to succeed, so, hey, white people, please be sensitive about it, and do your best, OK?”. > . I endorse that message, without the “it makes me feel like I don’t exist”, and acknowledging the fact that it’s not a white thing. Every other minority language will butcher your name too. Probably worse. I dare say that Americans go further to pronounce names correctly, probably due to our diversity, than any other culture. In my experience, no Spanish speaker has ever even made an attempt to pronounce my name correctly. It’s not offensive, it’s just something you understand when people have a different native tongue. That’s why I interpreted that video as a great example of millenials’ “it’s all about me” attitude. Now I don’t normally complain about millenials, they are the most well adjusted generation I’ve ever seen, but everyone has their thing, and self absorption is theirs. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1988 "2017-08-25T05:50:55Z")
Actually, a better interpretation than self-absorption is the idea that everyone should think you matter. That’s a consequence of spending all your time around family and friends when you’re young, rather than being out in the world early like my generation was. We learned quick that we don’t matter to everyone. You say it makes you feel like you don’t exist? You don’t to 99.9% of the people on this Earth. Realizing that is part of growing up. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1989 "2017-08-25T06:26:38Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > From who? Should we care? From the same people that have helped blow the “They took him off the game because of his name!!!” thing out of all proportion. So yes, we should care. And regarding the “How dare people not pronounce my name properly” thing - too bad. That’s life as a foreigner everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1990 "2017-08-25T08:30:53Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > And regarding the “How dare people not pronounce my name properly” thing - too bad. That’s life as a foreigner everywhere. Um. Except that AFAICT nobody in that video was saying anything like “How dare people not pronounce my name properly”. They were saying that it feels bad when other people don’t even **try** to pronounce their name properly or act as though having to try to pronounce a difficult name is an unfair burden that they should get to avoid if possible. (Moreover, AFAICT, not all those people were “foreigners” in the cultures they were growing up in. They were minorities, but that’s not the same thing.) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1991 "2017-08-25T09:42:32Z")
Non-English speakers don’t try to pronounce my name correctly. And I take that well because they are foreigners and it’s rude to criticize their accent. As for people not even trying, first, you have to matter to them, as I said before, and second, on the scale of annoying things I’d say it rates about where someone taking forever in the express line at the grocery store rates. My wife has a frequently butchered name that Americans as well as non-French speakers can’t pronounce, and it is an annoyance. It’s also funny, and it does not diminish her sense of self-worth. If it does, then you’re too soft to leave your parents’ nest. I’d advise people like that to never come out, because it only gets worse. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1992 "2017-08-25T11:15:38Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Um. Except that AFAICT nobody in that video was saying anything like “How dare people not pronounce my name properly”. They were saying that it feels bad when other people don’t even **try** to pronounce their name properly or act as though having to try to pronounce a difficult name is an unfair burden that they should get to avoid if possible. > > (Moreover, AFAICT, not all those people were “foreigners” in the cultures they were growing up in. They were minorities, but that’s not the same thing.) I wasn’t talking about that video specifically. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1993 "2017-08-25T12:04:40Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Non-English speakers don’t try to pronounce my name correctly. And I take that well because they are foreigners and it’s rude to criticize their accent. They know how; they just don’t like you. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1994 "2017-08-25T13:22:23Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Nancy Pelosi, never very good when it comes to the Constitution, says, "You can’t yell ‘wolf’ in a crowded theater > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92sXx-s-qkg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92sXx-s-qkg) > > Three problems here which make this especially stupid: > > 1. It’s yell fire, not wolf I’d just like to say that I’d find a wolf in a theater at least as scary as a fire. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1995 "2017-08-26T21:53:42Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > From the same people that have helped blow the “They took him off the game because of his name!!!” thing out of all proportion. So yes, we should care. Perhaps I should re-phrase: If people were to going to express outrage either way (which is a hypothetical since we don’t know what the reaction would have been if Robert Lee broadcast the game), what was the fairest thing to do? Many would argue that re-assigning an Asian-American with an extraordinarily common name in order to placate hypothetical outrage borne of shear ignorance was not the way to handle it. Personally, I’m not sure it would have been a big deal at all. And I don’t think Robert Lee should pay the price for the anticipated idiocy of our society. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1996 "2017-08-27T00:29:50Z")
[First-grade girl sent to principal’s office for using wrong gender pronoun…](http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/25/first-grader-sent-to-office-for-misgendering-fellow-student.html) ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1997 "2017-08-27T02:04:42Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > I’d just like to say that I’d find a wolf in a theater at least as scary as a fire. How many people would yell back “Where? Where wolf?” ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1998 "2017-08-27T02:47:17Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > How many people would yell back “Where? Where wolf?” There wolf. There castle. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1999 "2017-08-27T03:46:37Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > As for people not even trying, first, you have to matter to them, as I said before, and second, on the scale of annoying things I’d say it rates about where someone taking forever in the express line at the grocery store rates. If your fellow human being doesn’t matter enough, that’s a problem. You should care at least enough about other people to get their name right. > [@](#): > > My wife has a frequently butchered name that Americans as well as non-French speakers can’t pronounce, and it is an annoyance. It’s also funny, and it does not diminish her sense of self-worth. If it does, then you’re too soft to leave your parents’ nest. I’d advise people like that to never come out, because it only gets worse. Do you or your wife face racism on a daily basis? Or is it just this one thing? And this “too soft” argument needs to be extinguished. There is no such thing. It is bully talk for an excuse to do things that hurt other people. You have no right to tell someone else to toughen up. Just be a decent person and don’t try to hurt them. You don’t face racism, so don’t tell people who do how they should feel. Hell, outside of right and wrong, don’t tell people how to think, period. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2000 "2017-08-27T03:49:22Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Actually, a better interpretation than self-absorption is the idea that everyone should think you matter. That’s a consequence of spending all your time around family and friends when you’re young, rather than being out in the world early like my generation was. We learned quick that we don’t matter to everyone. > > You say it makes you feel like you don’t exist? You don’t to 99.9% of the people on this Earth. Realizing that is part of growing up. If others don’t matter to you, then you’ve just admitted to being a psychopath. No, not everyone in the entire world needs to care about every other person, but if you can’t care about the person you are currently interacting with, then you are an asshole, and it’s our job to try and discourage you from being an asshole. Good people care about others. Bad people don’t. One of the main reasons Trump is evil is that he only cares about himself. The only reason to even be nice or polite to other people is that they matter to you. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2001 "2017-08-27T04:13:03Z")
Interesting article explaining the background of the SJW phenomena. [How Colleges Are Strangling Liberalism An obsession with identity has made students less likely to engage with a world beyond themselves.]([How Colleges Are Strangling Liberalism](http://www.chronicle.com/article/How-Colleges-Are-Strangling/240909?key=_ds5xEy29SM9Wq4Ek8CmAQtrc-CeIrKfiAiM9xrC72owFjxGcKz7IMnqil4QSloiYk84ZDk1Tm12cVVDUE5LTU91RFhNNW1JeVh0VVhUdllEVlBtMG9zemI5MA)) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443.md?page=99) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443.md?page=101)