# Stupid Social Justice Warrior Bullshit O' the Day. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 17, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443 "2017-03-17T22:14:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 104
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2062 "2017-09-22T21:55:52Z")
> [@](#): > > when vaillancourt aired her grievances with the school, administrators told her she hurt the teacher’s feelings by posting about the incident on social media. OH NOES!! Her widdle feewings were hurted. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2063 "2017-09-22T23:24:04Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > OH NOES!! Her widdle feewings were hurted. Ah yes, Tone Policing. When all else fails, ignore facts and reasons and fall back on tone policing. Management that does this shit needs to be removed from management. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2064 "2017-09-23T01:23:55Z")
Yes, because the school admins advising her that she hurt the teacher’s feeling is totally on point and relevant to the real issue. ---
**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2065 "2017-09-23T04:09:03Z")
There wasn’t any real issue at all, except maybe the parent shitting herself over a word change. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2066 "2017-09-24T08:09:13Z")
> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#): > > There wasn’t any real issue at all, except maybe the parent shitting herself over a word change. E Plebnista ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2067 "2017-09-24T09:42:32Z")
> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#): > > I read the story. Are the stupid social justice warriors the people that freaked out over changing “men” to “humans”? > [@dumb parent from article](#): > > What she [the teacher] is doing is indoctrination Well, can’t argue with that. It’s the Pledge, after all… ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2068 "2017-09-24T09:49:27Z")
It is not uncommon at all to change the text of the Constitution to fix the parts that have been changed by Amendment. (Generally, you cross out the old version.) The 14th and 19th amendments change the original meaning of “men” to mean “human.” Yes, in our past, we could have argued that “men” meant the same thing as “human.” But our language has changed. So, to make that clear now, it makes sense to update the language. This is once again a tiny nothing burger, and the only people who get upset are ironically the people who say we shouldn’t care about offending people. So the concept is self-refuting. It offends you, but we’re not supposed to care about you being offended. You should be happy we don’t care about your “widdle feewings.” ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2069 "2017-09-25T12:32:00Z")
So here’s some real bullshit. [https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/71ydqb/culture\_war\_roundup\_for\_week\_following\_sept\_23/dnfmep6/](https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/71ydqb/culture_war_roundup_for_week_following_sept_23/dnfmep6/) The link is to reddit because the actual article is behind a paywall and this has mirrors. A researcher at Bath Spa university (yes, I also didn’t believe that was a real thing at first glance) wanted to do research on transgender regret, and transsexual people who detransitioned. Here’s the money quote: > [@](#): > > He outlined his detransition thesis but was told by Bath Spa it must go before the ethics committee, which last November issued an extraordinary judgment. “Engaging in a potentially ‘politically incorrect’ piece of research carries a risk to the university,” it said. “Attacks on social media may not be confined to the researcher but may involve the university.” The report expressed concern that Caspian would suffer psychological damage. “It’s ridiculous,” he said. “I’m in my late fifties, I’m an expert in my field and I’m not even on social media. I’m not frightened at all.” Nonetheless his thesis was rejected. That is legitimately concerning on numerous levels. What the fuck, guys? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2070 "2017-09-25T12:56:28Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > So here’s some real bullshit. > > [Reddit - Dive into anything](https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/71ydqb/culture_war_roundup_for_week_following_sept_23/dnfmep6/) > > The link is to reddit because the actual article is behind a paywall and this has mirrors. > > A researcher at Bath Spa university (yes, I also didn’t believe that was a real thing at first glance) wanted to do research on transgender regret, and transsexual people who detransitioned. Here’s the money quote: > > That is legitimately concerning on numerous levels. What the fuck, guys? I can sort of see both sides here. On the one hand, this (presumably - I haven’t read the proposal) is a legitimate and valuable piece of research. It’s certainly an area where any solid data that can be gleaned has potential benefit in the arena of transition counselling. On the other hand the potential for it to bring down a media (social and otherwise) shitstorm from all sides of the political spectrum is high, which would incur real and intangible costs for the university. I strongly suspect Caspian, as someone “not even on social media”, does not understand just how bad things could get, nor how much pressure and harassment would likely be brought to bear from interested parties, activists and trolls to get him to tweak his findings in one direction or the other. Difficult call for the university and they erred on the side of caution at the cost of the potential value of the research. Was it the right call? I don’t know, but it’s not intrinsically “bullshit”. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2071 "2017-09-25T15:53:49Z")
We have a research institution, a public one at that, denying an important and relevant piece of research out of fear of a “shitstorm”. No, I’m sorry, while I see both sides, one side is just… wrong. Politics should not be an excuse to shut down scientific research. Heckler’s veto doubly so. Literally any scientific issue can be turned into a political hot potato. Any piece of research, if sufficiently stigmatized or politicized, could turn into this kind of thing. We have tenure so that this kind of thing doesn’t harm individual researchers, but that doesn’t matter at all if the universities themselves are unwilling to stand up for honest research. And this isn’t exactly “Mark Regnerus wants to prove that trans people can all easily be ‘cured’ with clozapine” either. ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2072 "2017-09-25T20:52:29Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I can sort of see both sides here. On the one hand, this (presumably - I haven’t read the proposal) is a legitimate and valuable piece of research. It’s certainly an area where any solid data that can be gleaned has potential benefit in the arena of transition counselling. > > On the other hand the potential for it to bring down a media (social and otherwise) shitstorm from all sides of the political spectrum is high, which would incur real and intangible costs for the university. I strongly suspect Caspian, as someone “not even on social media”, does not understand just how bad things could get, nor how much pressure and harassment would likely be brought to bear from interested parties, activists and trolls to get him to tweak his findings in one direction or the other. > > Difficult call for the university and they erred on the side of caution at the cost of the potential value of the research. Was it the right call? I don’t know, but it’s not intrinsically “bullshit”. Hell, no. The prime - and only - obligation a proper university has is to science and truth (as well as we’re able to ascertain what that is). A university that puts budget above science isn’t a real university. If they do, they deserve to lose their standing as a university. Sent from my E5823 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2073 "2017-09-27T16:49:56Z")
In the latest, [people who aren’t violent are racists](https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/the-left-eats-itself-antifa-fractures-along-race-lines-over-punching-nazis/), and [people who don’t kneel for the national anthem are white supremacists](https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/09/27/huffpo-if-you-dont-take-a-knee-youre-a-white-supremacist/#comments). ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2074 "2017-09-27T22:35:17Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > In the latest, [people who aren’t violent are racists](https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/the-left-eats-itself-antifa-fractures-along-race-lines-over-punching-nazis/), and [people who don’t kneel for the national anthem are white supremacists](https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/09/27/huffpo-if-you-dont-take-a-knee-youre-a-white-supremacist/#comments). Remind me–is it the people who argue against the articles who are the SJWs, or is it the people who wrote the article? I can never remember. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2075 "2017-09-28T02:57:50Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Remind me–is it the people who argue against the articles who are the SJWs, or is it the people who wrote the article? I can never remember. If the author is a self-described “Dad, partner, enraged citizen, opinionated writer, leftist, PhD student” then you’re probably on the right track assuming _he_ is the SJW. Not to mention his claim that not kneeling during the anthem is tantamount to belief in white supremacy. But you already knew this. Obfuscation is this man’s game. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2076 "2017-09-28T04:38:25Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > If the author is a self-described “Dad, partner, enraged citizen, opinionated writer, leftist, PhD student” then you’re probably on the right track assuming _he_ is the SJW. > > Not to mention his claim that not kneeling during the anthem is tantamount to belief in white supremacy. So you’ve given up on the pretension that’s it’s the behavior that upsets you, you now admit it’s the opinions? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2077 "2017-09-28T10:00:50Z")
> [@Norse](#): > > Hell, no. The prime - and only - obligation a proper university has is to science and truth (as well as we’re able to ascertain what that is). > > A university that puts budget above science isn’t a real university. If they do, they deserve to lose their standing as a university. I’m sympathetic to your views. Unfortunately, a university that doesn’t give due priority to its budget and/or its public image often isn’t a university for very long either. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2078 "2017-09-28T10:11:31Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > So you’ve given up on the pretension that’s it’s the behavior that upsets you, you now admit it’s the opinions? “If you are not with us, you are against us” is bullshit when it comes from a conservative like Bush 43, and it is bullshit when it comes from a liberal. “Not my circus, not my monkey” is a perfectly valid way to react to a protest. ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2079 "2017-09-28T13:33:35Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’m sympathetic to your views. Unfortunately, a university that doesn’t give due priority to its budget and/or its public image often isn’t a university for very long either. So, “due priority” = “puts it above anything else, including their raison d’etre”? My beef isn’t with balancing their budget, it’s with allowing unscientific woo in an institution whose purpose is to develop knowledge in a scientific way Sent from my E5823 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2080 "2017-09-28T14:20:02Z")
On Twitter, one of the people I follow told white players to kneel with the black players. Take the damn knee! While not as radical as what that other dude said, it’s still stupid SJW bullshit. The black players aren’t united on this and 90% of why most of them do want to kneel now has to do with Donald Trump sticking his nose into this. The white players deciding to take the knee would pretty much take the choice away from the black players, throwing the ones who don’t want to use the anthem as the venue for this protest right under the bus. Which I’m sure is a feature for many white liberals, not a bug. This is a free country, everyone should follow their conscience. Is that really so hard to support? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2081 "2017-09-28T15:03:15Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > On Twitter, one of the people I follow told white players to kneel with the black players. Take the damn knee! While not as radical as what that other dude said, it’s still stupid SJW bullshit. The black players aren’t united on this and 90% of why most of them do want to kneel now has to do with Donald Trump sticking his nose into this. The white players deciding to take the knee would pretty much take the choice away from the black players, throwing the ones who don’t want to use the anthem as the venue for this protest right under the bus. Which I’m sure is a feature for many white liberals, not a bug. Oh, you were doing so well up until the last sentence. But then constructing liberal strawmen to libel is a staple of conservative rhetoric (am I doing this right?). > [@](#): > > This is a free country, everyone should follow their conscience. Is that really so hard to support? For me? No. For quite a lot of other people? Yes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443.md?page=103) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443.md?page=105)