# Stupid Social Justice Warrior Bullshit O' the Day.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 17, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443 "2017-03-17T22:14:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2102 "2017-09-29T19:04:38Z")

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When the words “…liberty and justice for all…” are true and factual, there will be no problem for me reciting the pledge. I’ll be so giddy with joy and drunk on realized dreams… Yowzah! Bring it! Today!

But that song? No. Got a respectable dime-a-dozen baritone, but that song is unsingable. On her worst day, America deserves better.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2103 "2017-09-29T19:38:59Z")

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Pick something with a nice staccato rhythm, so that singers can’t try to expand their 3 minutes of fame into 15 minutes.

Something like stars and stripes forever. Then those of us with bad knees can protest by singing the webfooted version.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2104 "2017-09-29T22:23:12Z")

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Headlines are often more provocative than the contents of the article. Being provocative gets views, while the fact that the article itself clarifies makes anyone look dumb who actually gets offended by the title.

About the only thing you can do is argue that clickbait is bad, but no one seems to care.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2105 "2017-09-29T23:05:47Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Something like stars and stripes forever. Then those of us with bad knees can protest by singing the webfooted version.

Like there’s any other version.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2106 "2017-10-02T05:04:32Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I’m sympathetic to your views. Unfortunately, a university that doesn’t give due priority to its budget and/or its public image often isn’t a university for very long either.

Then it’s up to us to punish universities that place their budget and public image above the ability to publish legitimate research.

> [@BigT](#):
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> People on the left-wing are at least trying to fight some sort of injustice. Since these people have good intentions and have basically no effect on the world, it doesn’t bother me.

Spend a little time in the Slatestarcodex culture war threads and you might change your tune. Leftists (presumably) at Google and Cloudflare are messing with the backbone of the internet in disturbing ways - Cloudflare is abandoning neutrality, and Google has tweaked its algorithm to “fight fake news” in ways which appear partisan. There are some things you _just don’t do_. I think the idea that these people have basically no effect on the world needs to be examined a little more closely.

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Given that _some_ people measure success by how many people on the “other side” they hurt, I’m not entirely convinced by this.

You mean like Antifa?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2107 "2017-10-02T10:57:52Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Then it’s up to us to punish universities that place their budget and public image above the ability to publish legitimate research.

If that makes you happy. Of course, it puts the universities in a position of being punished either way, but at least you get a nice view from your high horse.

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> You mean like Antifa?

I’m sure there are those in the tiny fringe that is Antifa who measure success by how many fascists they hurt. I’m also reasonably sure that they’re outnumbered by those in the Antifa whose goal is to _stop fascists from hurting others_. As noted elsewhere, neo-Nazis left alone will continue to foment hatred and discrimination; the Antifa left alone will sit at home and binge-watch GoT.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2108 "2017-10-02T11:06:33Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> As noted elsewhere, neo-Nazis left alone will continue to foment hatred and discrimination; the Antifa left alone will sit at home and binge-watch GoT.

I don’t think you have a clue who or what individual antifa are. They foment class hatred and violence. Violent birds of a feather riot together.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2109 "2017-10-02T11:22:41Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> I don’t think you have a clue who or what individual antifa are. They foment class hatred and violence. Violent birds of a feather riot together.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2110 "2017-10-02T14:48:10Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> the Antifa left alone will sit at home and binge-watch GoT.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2111 "2017-10-10T22:24:43Z")

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The latest: people who don’t support being able to take tests from home [are white supremicists.](https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/10/10/if-these-kids-are-the-future-we-are-screwed-berkeley-students-demand-take-home-midterm-exam-instead-of-an-in-class-test-because-of-emotion-stress-afflicting-people-of-color/)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2112 "2017-10-11T02:38:28Z")

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> …and filed under Authoritarian and Regressive Left, college students behaving badly…

We thank you for sharing an unbiased viewpoint. But keep in mind, a lefty like me and others have rolled our collective eyes at Berkeley bullshit more than you’ve had hot meals. First city in the USA to have its own foreign policy.

But Berzerkely crazy isn’t liberal stupidity, at least so far as they _despise_ liberals, a liberal doesn’t know a revolutionary cadre from a proletariat! They loathe Hillary and are darkly suspicious of Bernie. So this guy managed to find crazy ass lefties in Berkeley? Could probably find pampered assholes in Beverly Hills. Wow.

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**Author:** ![WilyQuixote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@WilyQuixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WilyQuixote)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2113 "2017-10-11T08:42:44Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> The latest: people who don’t support being able to take tests from home [are white supremicists.](https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/10/10/if-these-kids-are-the-future-we-are-screwed-berkeley-students-demand-take-home-midterm-exam-instead-of-an-in-class-test-because-of-emotion-stress-afflicting-people-of-color/)

Accepting the blog post at face value, its a big ado about nothing.

Looks like just another case of unprepared students whining about writing an exam/test at the last possible moment, grasping at whatever straws they have. Some may have legitimate reasons, others may have partied too much.

Yawn.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2114 "2017-10-11T09:47:53Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Spend a little time in the Slatestarcodex culture war threads and you might change your tune. Leftists (presumably) at Google and Cloudflare are messing with the backbone of the internet in disturbing ways - Cloudflare is abandoning neutrality, and Google has tweaked its algorithm to “fight fake news” in ways which appear partisan. There are some things you _just don’t do_. I think the idea that these people have basically no effect on the world needs to be examined a little more closely.

Not finding anything on this culture war group. Seems to just be people pointing out the same bad stuff Trumpists and Nazis do. Looking it up on RationalWiki, it suggests that there are a bunch of racist shitheads who pop up and you get banned for pointing out their racism. Sure, that’s bad, but that’s the literal opposite of the social justice movement.

The rest reads like right wing conspiracy nonsense. I looked up Cloudflare and neutrality, and it’s just about net neutrality, which they support. As for Google’s fake news thing, it just requires information to be verified by other sources, as far as I can find. How is that partisan? Both claims you made should be huge news, yet I am not finding them anywhere online.

It honestly seems like you are becoming tribalistic towards a guy who is anti tribe. You’re repeating their cultural signifiers, using their jargon, and just repeatedly talking about this place like it’s where you get all your intellectual thought. Please expand your horizons beyond any one group.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2115 "2017-10-11T11:00:39Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Looking it up on RationalWiki, it suggests that there are a bunch of racist shitheads who pop up and you get banned for pointing out their racism.

This is an oversimplification at best. This was actually rehashed not that long ago, although I couldn’t remember where. And yeah, the forum has a real problem with iconoclasty for iconoclasty’s sake. There legitimately are a handful of people who are _really_ racist, _really_ sexist, and even really dumb. However, it’s not nearly as hard-right as you might assume. (Ironically, the best poster there goes by the username of “[yodatsracist](https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/74up3r/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_following/do6org6/)”. Fucking really. And if he posted here, he’d easily be in the top 10 posters on this site.)

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> The rest reads like right wing conspiracy nonsense. I looked up Cloudflare and neutrality, and it’s just about net neutrality, which they support.

I’m talking about [this](https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/). Cloudflare is one of those “backbone of the internet”-style companies. We don’t want them taking sides. If their dedication to net neutrality doesn’t extend to the actual content they host, then it’s meaningless, as they are precisely the kind of service that one requires to be neutral. The Daily Stormer is a fucking atrocious website, [but this sets a _nasty_ precedent](https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/08/fighting-neo-nazis-future-free-expression). For now, it’s just the most noxious of neo-nazi websites. But once you start going down that road, you have to start to worry - who’s next? Where’s the hard line here? There really isn’t one. ☹

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> As for Google’s fake news thing, it just requires information to be verified by other sources, as far as I can find. How is that partisan?

It’s not that it IS partisan, it’s that it could appear partisan. Taking a moment to think about it, this is a silly complaint. But [Alternet was not amused](https://www.alternet.org/media/editorial-googles-threat-democracy-hits-alternet-hard). That’s weird, right? Maybe I’m overreacting to this one, I dunno.

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> It honestly seems like you are becoming tribalistic towards a guy who is anti tribe. You’re repeating their cultural signifiers, using their jargon, and just repeatedly talking about this place like it’s where you get all your intellectual thought. Please expand your horizons beyond any one group.

In my defense: I don’t know what a cultural signifier is, their jargon is really, _really_ useful, and that critique applied to SDMB not too long ago - now it’s SDMB and /r/SlateStarCodex. 😛 But yeah, I get what you’re getting at.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2116 "2017-10-20T14:32:16Z")

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[A new YA book kerfuffle](http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/10/20/kirkus_editor_in_chief_explains_the_american_heart_review.html).

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**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2117 "2017-10-20T15:18:23Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [A new YA book kerfuffle](http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/10/20/kirkus_editor_in_chief_explains_the_american_heart_review.html).

What? People have opinions? About books?

Surely we are living in the last days of the republic, here.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2118 "2017-10-20T15:25:29Z")

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> [@PigArcher](#):
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> What? People have opinions? About books?
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> Surely we are living in the last days of the republic, here.

Oh for goodness sake. Obviously a kerfuffle about the reviewing of a young adult book isn’t hugely important on the grand scheme of things, but it’s ludicrous to reduce the situation to “people have opinions”.

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**Author:** ![WilyQuixote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@WilyQuixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WilyQuixote)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2119 "2017-10-21T13:06:22Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [A new YA book kerfuffle](http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/10/20/kirkus_editor_in_chief_explains_the_american_heart_review.html).

What’s the Stupid “SJW” Bullshit O’ the Day here? And which party is the “SJW”?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2120 "2017-11-17T18:41:43Z")

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[Students tut-tut over Tut](https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/11/17/steve-martins-king-tut-routine-offends-reed-college-students/).

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/2121 "2017-11-17T18:58:19Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [Students tut-tut over Tut](https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/11/17/steve-martins-king-tut-routine-offends-reed-college-students/).

Well to be honest, Steve Martins’ _King Tut_ is a poorly researched piece of academia.

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