# Stupid Social Justice Warrior Bullshit O' the Day.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 17, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443 "2017-03-17T22:14:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/301 "2017-03-24T12:00:23Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Weird thing about forests. They kinda hafta be together. If you point out a tree in Michigan and a tree in South Africa and a tree in Jamaica and a tree in Chile and a tree in Russia and a tree in Japan, you don’t have a forest. You have six trees. Probably not even the same species.

That sounds like Stephen Wright’s seashell collection, which he keeps scattered on beaches around the world.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/302 "2017-03-24T12:04:38Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> If you are implying that I am a conservative, you are very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very wrong. To borrow a phrase from Ronald Regan(!) “I didn’t leave liberalism, liberalism left me.”
> 
> I am a liberal, what I am not is an extremist nut. (If you haven’t read [this article](http://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid) by a liberal professor, it may interest you.)

Liberalism left you, in much the same way that I’m tempted to leave my four-year-old at home when she crosses her arms and stamps her feet and refuses to get in the fucking car so we can go somewhere.

I don’t leave her, but that’s because she is actually a child, not just acting like one.

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/303 "2017-03-24T12:19:30Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> [Moderating]  
> Don’t call other posters “fuckers.”
> 
> No warning issued.  
> [/Moderating]

Acknowledged. Thanks, and apologies.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/304 "2017-03-24T14:39:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Budget Player Cadet]  
[Apparently the SJWs ruined Mass Effect: Andromeda](http://www.thejimquisition.com/metabombed-mass-effect-andromeda-is-pure-sjw-propaganda/). No, don’t ask me how that even _attempts_ to make sense.  
[/QUOTE]  
Now that’s some typical SJW bullshit. Based on the number of reviews quoted there, there is practically no mention of anything anti-SJW. One sentence here. Another sentence there. The rest is about how the game sucks, not some big meanie anti-SJW thing the so-called author of that article would have you believe. Special snowflake had to actually do some work trying to find \*anything \* anti-PC so he could put it in the title like it’s a yuuuge issue. In his mind.

Then you exaggerated it even more!

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/305 "2017-03-25T01:40:08Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> The argument that makes me laugh is when someone says something offensive then says that they’d get attacked in any case so “might as well be hanged for sheep as for a lamb.”
> 
> Because the point of that idiom is that you shouldn’t let the punishment stop you from _doing the thing you want to do_ because you’ll suffer the same whether you do it or not. If saying racist shit is the thing you want to do, it’s really hard to argue that you became racist because someone called you one.

I don’t disagree, but at the same time, it depends what the punishment is.

Previously, saying Actual Racist Stuff would likely earn one a reputation as something of a dickhead and maybe a black eye or two.

Nowadays, saying Not Intended To Be Racist But Taken Than Way By The Offenderati Stuff means there’s a social media angry mob after the perpetrator within short order, with dire consequences including but not limited to losing their job.

I’m not for a moment defending Actual Racism of the Nazi/KKK/Apartheid variety, but there’s a world of difference between that and calling for the (apparently successful) boycott of a British Colonial Era-themed cafe because someone didn’t like the decor or the idea.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/306 "2017-03-25T02:07:28Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> I don’t disagree, but at the same time, it depends what the punishment is.

It doesn’t actually matter what the punishment is if you don’t want to steal the sheep in the first place.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/307 "2017-03-25T05:08:38Z")

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> [@xenophon41](#):
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> Hi, disingenuous fucker!
> 
> A “diatribe” is a sharply abusive condemnation of a person or thing. But a “metaphor” (such as using the image of a group of disparate and unrelated trees to represent the concept of “not a fucking forest”) is a literary technique used among other things to explain and elucidate a particular relationship (or a specific phenomenological aspect of a relationship) between various elements of a proposed causal chain.

Disingenuous? How rude.

> [@](#):
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> Definition of diatribe  
> 1  
> archaic : a prolonged discourse  
> 2  
> : a bitter and abusive speech or piece of writing  
> 3  
> : ironic or satirical criticism

I count one, two, three!!! Ah-hahaha! Definitions of the word. #2 isn’t exclusive.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/308 "2017-03-25T06:22:02Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> It doesn’t actually matter what the punishment is if you don’t want to steal the sheep in the first place.

There’s a huge difference between climbing over a fence, finding a sheep which clearly belongs to someone and nicking off with it - and finding a sheep wandering around on common land, figuring no-one owns it and deciding to keep it.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/309 "2017-03-25T09:24:01Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Now that’s some typical SJW bullshit. Based on the number of reviews quoted there, there is practically no mention of anything anti-SJW. One sentence here. Another sentence there. The rest is about how the game sucks, not some big meanie anti-SJW thing the so-called author of that article would have you believe. Special snowflake had to actually do some work trying to find \*anything \* anti-PC so he could put it in the title like it’s a yuuuge issue. In his mind.
> 
> Then you exaggerated it even more!

You’re right, my apologies, there’s _no_ “anti-SJW” backlash against Mass Effect: Andromeda. [I’m](https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/168600-mass-effect-andromeda/75126788) [so](http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/so-mass-effect-andromeda-was-ruined-by-biowares-new-feminist-sjw-agenda-just-like-dragon-age.454914655/) [sorry](https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4ywfmm/discussion_a_proper_response_to_bioware_sjw/) [for](https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/5qq7mn/good_reminder_that_mass_effect_andromeda_still/) [being](http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-19/mass-effect-andromeda-sucky-animations-bigoted-designer-and-fugly-females-lead-cance) [so](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AriDHk9TB0U#t=40s) [wrong](http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/2017/03/19/white-evil-new-mass-effect-excludes-white-character-creation-in-ongoing-sjw-assault-on-a-race/). :rolleyes:

This is, in effect, the real usage of the term. Find something that pushes “leftist” politics - you know, like, say, [a video game with a black female lead](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QLmLaNyJBE), or [a movie that cast people other than white men as the lead](http://www.returnofkings.com/75991/why-star-wars-the-force-awakens-is-a-social-justice-propaganda-film), because _holy shit these people are fucking deranged_ and somehow the mere existence of protagonists who aren’t white men counts as “leftist politics” - and accuse them of being an “SJW” for not catering exclusively to your proclivities. That is what “SJW” _means_ these days. That is how the term is used in almost every context. It is a term by douchebags for douchebags used to demean things that _aren’t_ douchebags.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/310 "2017-03-25T09:31:02Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> There’s a huge difference between climbing over a fence, finding a sheep which clearly belongs to someone and nicking off with it - and finding a sheep wandering around on common land, figuring no-one owns it and deciding to keep it.

I promise you, whether I had to climb a fence or just grab the sheep frolicking about on the village green, I DON’T FUCKING WANT A SHEEP.

(This reminds me of those fundamentalist ministers who think that it’s only the fact that homosexuality is forbidden that keeps all men from running off to enjoy sex with other men.)

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/311 "2017-03-25T10:41:39Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> You’re right, my apologies, there’s _no_ “anti-SJW” backlash against Mass Effect: Andromeda. [I’m](https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/168600-mass-effect-andromeda/75126788) [so](http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/so-mass-effect-andromeda-was-ruined-by-biowares-new-feminist-sjw-agenda-just-like-dragon-age.454914655/) [sorry](https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4ywfmm/discussion_a_proper_response_to_bioware_sjw/) [for](https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/5qq7mn/good_reminder_that_mass_effect_andromeda_still/) [being](http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-19/mass-effect-andromeda-sucky-animations-bigoted-designer-and-fugly-females-lead-cance) [so](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AriDHk9TB0U#t=40s) [wrong](http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/2017/03/19/white-evil-new-mass-effect-excludes-white-character-creation-in-ongoing-sjw-assault-on-a-race/). :rolleyes:
> 
> This is, in effect, the real usage of the term. Find something that pushes “leftist” politics - you know, like, say, [a video game with a black female lead](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QLmLaNyJBE), or [a movie that cast people other than white men as the lead](http://www.returnofkings.com/75991/why-star-wars-the-force-awakens-is-a-social-justice-propaganda-film), because _holy shit these people are fucking deranged_ and somehow the mere existence of protagonists who aren’t white men counts as “leftist politics” - and accuse them of being an “SJW” for not catering exclusively to your proclivities. That is what “SJW” _means_ these days. That is how the term is used in almost every context. It is a term by douchebags for douchebags used to demean things that _aren’t_ douchebags.

Personally, I think a lot of it comes from this refusal to believe that their interests aren’t exclusively white male interests. They figure, for racist and sexist reasons, that others not like them aren’t interested in what they like, so their inclusion is just shoehorning interference.

“Oh, girls like Candy Crush and Words With Friends, not Mass Effect. So their complaints about representation is meaningless intrusion into the stuff I love.”

“Oh, those… dark skinned people are too busy playing basketball or shooting each other in drug wars to play video games, so why bother with what they think?”

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/312 "2017-03-25T13:26:32Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I promise you, whether I had to climb a fence or just grab the sheep frolicking about on the village green, I DON’T FUCKING WANT A SHEEP.

I’m not entirely sure how you got started on the sheep analogy, but just because you don’t want a sheep doesn’t mean other people don’t.

Which I think comes back to the anti-Left backlash. The view from the Left seems to be “I don’t want one and not only should you not want one, you’re a horrible person for not wanting one as much as I don’t want one. And if you do want one, you’re one of the worst Hitlers ever.”

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/313 "2017-03-25T13:30:51Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> I’m not entirely sure how you got started on the sheep analogy, but just because you don’t want a sheep doesn’t mean other people don’t.
> 
> Which I think comes back to the anti-Left backlash. The view from the Left seems to be “I don’t want one and not only should you not want one, you’re a horrible person for not wanting one as much as I don’t want one. And if you do want one, you’re one of the worst Hitlers ever.”

Are you seriously stupid or just playing an idiot on the internet?

I’ll repost my initial statement, and you can figure out why what you’re saying is so fucking stupid.

The argument that makes me laugh is when someone says something offensive then says that they’d get attacked in any case so “might as well be hanged for sheep as for a lamb.”

Because the point of that idiom is that you shouldn’t let the punishment stop you from doing the thing you want to do because you’ll suffer the same whether you do it or not. If saying racist shit is the thing you want to do, it’s really hard to argue that you became racist because someone called you one.  
So yes, I realize some people want a sheep/want to say racist shit. That’s THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT OF MY POST. And yes, I will judge them as racists for SAYING RACIST SHIT.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/314 "2017-03-25T13:47:37Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Are you seriously stupid or just playing an idiot on the internet?
> 
> I’ll repost my initial statement, and you can figure out why what you’re saying is so fucking stupid.
> 
> The argument that makes me laugh is when someone says something offensive then says that they’d get attacked in any case so “might as well be hanged for sheep as for a lamb.”
> 
> Because the point of that idiom is that you shouldn’t let the punishment stop you from doing the thing you want to do because you’ll suffer the same whether you do it or not. If saying racist shit is the thing you want to do, it’s really hard to argue that you became racist because someone called you one.  
> So yes, I realize some people want a sheep/want to say racist shit. That’s THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT OF MY POST. And yes, I will judge them as racists for SAYING RACIST SHIT.

And the point which remains unaddressed is “There’s a different between Actually Racist and People Looking For Things To Be Offended About.”

Saying a black person must be a criminal is Actually Racist. Asking an Asian person who was born in that (not Asian) country where they’re from is Not Racist At All.

The Left have an unfortunate habit of making people in the second example out to be as awful as the people in the first example.

Thus, I can see how someone would take the view that if they’re going to be lambasted for expressing the Wrong Opinion they might as well flick the safety off and express a weapons-grade Wrong Opinion instead of keeping it to themselves or moderating their speech.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/315 "2017-03-25T13:50:58Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> And the point which remains unaddressed is “There’s a different between Actually Racist and People Looking For Things To Be Offended About.”
> 
> Saying a black person must be a criminal is Actually Racist. Asking an Asian person who was born in that (not Asian) country where they’re from is Not Racist At All.
> 
> The Left have an unfortunate habit of making people in the second example out to be as awful as the people in the first example.
> 
> Thus, I can see how someone would take the view that if they’re going to be lambasted for expressing the Wrong Opinion they might as well flick the safety off and express a weapons-grade Wrong Opinion instead of keeping it to themselves or moderating their speech.

In other words, they want to say fucking racist shit. The entire point was that they want to say fucking racist shit. It has nothing to do with a sheep gamboling on the green, and your absolutely ridiculous “But some people WANT to do it, so how can you ATTACK them for it?” when “it” = “saying fucking racist shit” idiocy is a goddamn embarrassment to all.

Jesus.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/316 "2017-03-25T13:53:55Z")

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Not necessarily. Lots of people _think_ racist shit but have the sense to keep it to themselves. Being constantly told they’re awful for having _other_ opinions people don’t like triggers the “Well, everyone hates me anyway because [reasons], might as well say what I really think since they’re not going to hate me more!”

I think you’re mistaking my understanding of how something could happen for condoning it, which is far from the case.

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**Author:** ![Beren\_Erchamion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/90ced4/32.png) [@Beren\_Erchamion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beren_Erchamion)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/317 "2017-03-25T14:03:42Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> Asking an Asian person who was born in that (not Asian) country where they’re from is Not Racist At All.

It really is, though.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/318 "2017-03-25T14:04:36Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> Not necessarily. Lots of people _think_ racist shit but have the sense to keep it to themselves. Being constantly told they’re awful for having _other_ opinions people don’t like triggers the “Well, everyone hates me anyway because [reasons], might as well say what I really think since they’re not going to hate me more!”
> 
> I think you’re mistaking my understanding of how something could happen for condoning it, which is far from the case.

What I’m saying is that you are agreeing with me that the people who say it want to say it, just claiming it’s no big deal and people shouldn’t be judged for it. Remember what you said:

> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> I’m not entirely sure how you got started on the sheep analogy, but just because you don’t want a sheep doesn’t mean other people don’t.

Read that a few million times. Recognize that you are talking about people saying racist shit.

Then read what else you said:

> [@](#):
>
> Which I think comes back to the anti-Left backlash. The view from the Left seems to be “I don’t want one and not only should you not want one, you’re a horrible person for not wanting one as much as I don’t want one. And if you do want one, you’re one of the worst Hitlers ever.”

Yes, it’s true that I don’t want to say racist shit and not only should you not say racist shit, you’re a horrible person for wanting to say racist shit and saying racist shit.

You are saying that “the view from the Left” is that saying racist shit is bad. Which means the view from wherever the fuck you are is that saying racist shit is not bad. Because you aren’t describing yourself.

So don’t now give me a song and dance about how you’re not condoning saying racist shit when _you are very clearly saying the left is wrong for condemning it, and you are painting this as something to be mocked_.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/319 "2017-03-25T14:09:48Z")

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> [@Beren\_Erchamion](#):
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> It really is, though.

No more than Asian people asking me where I’m from when I’m in their country - which is Not Racist At All since I’m clearly not Asian and therefore not from that country.

> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> So don’t now give me a song and dance about how you’re not condoning saying racist shit when _you are very clearly saying the left is wrong for condemning it, and you are painting this as something to be mocked_.

You’re misunderstanding my point. I’m saying the left deserve to be mocked for going out of their way to be offended by non-offensive or trivial things. Actual Racism is not non-offensive or trivial.

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/320 "2017-03-25T14:18:03Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> You’re misunderstanding my point. I’m saying the left deserve to be mocked for going out of their way to be offended by non-offensive or trivial things. Actual Racism is not non-offensive or trivial.

Me: People can’t say SJWs force them to say racist things. People who say racist things want to say them.

You: But they want to say them.

Me: Yes, that’s exactly what I said.

You: Well, the view from the Left seems to be “You shouldn’t say racist things and you’re a horrible person if you do.”

Me: How is this a problem?

You: Oh, I’m not condoning saying racist things, I’m just saying the view from the _Left_ seems to be that you shouldn’t say racist things. And I’m going to say it in such a way to make it clear that that’s THEIR view, not MY view. But I’m totally against saying racist things, for sure. But the _Left_ says you shouldn’t say them. Tsk.

You didn’t explicitly say “I condone saying racist things.” You just derided the left for not being okay with saying racist things. And you said that the backlash against the left was for them not being okay with saying racist things.

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