# Stupid Social Justice Warrior Bullshit O' the Day. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 17, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443 "2017-03-17T22:14:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![Beren\_Erchamion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/90ced4/32.png) [@Beren\_Erchamion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beren_Erchamion)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/821 "2017-04-20T01:54:04Z")
> [@Quint](#): > > Here is Jordan Peterson’s explanation of the mob that shouted him down: > > “I can tell you a little about why these attempts to shut down people are being made. As far as I have been able to determine this kind of protest is an expression of a philosophy that is grounded partly in post-modernism and partly in Marxism. Now the post-modern element is basically this- there is no such thing as genuine individual identity, what there is is group identity. And you, like it or not, only have the interests of your group. And the whole world is nothing but a battleground between groups of different interests. There is no dialogue, there is no possibility of talking between the groups, it’s just a power stage where combat has to take place. > So the reason that speakers with whom the radical post modernists and Marxists don’t agree are denied a platform is because those people do not believe, from a philosophical position, that dialogue can bring consensus. All that is left if you forego that particular principle is this (referring to the angry mob trying to keep him from being heard). And this is only where it starts.” > > Taken from [this video.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1QTLcx_InFk) So what he’s saying is, he doesn’t have the slightest fucking clue what post-modernism or Marxism are? Sounds like a typical moron. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/822 "2017-04-20T02:27:52Z")
> [@Rick\_Sanchez](#): > > Okay…I’m getting mightily sick of this never ending parade of increasingly ridiculous hypotheticals, each bearing less resemblance to _what actually happens_ on university campuses than the one before it. So, before I respond to this, I’d like you to explain why you think this even qualifies as a serious question in the first place. Spell it out for me. Explain it like I’m a six year old. Easy… It is worth probing the extremes. Is any any extreme ok with you or is there a line you are not willing to cross? So far you seem to be good with “anything goes”. There is nothing you would find too obscene or too offensive or too hateful. NAMBLA should be allowed to speak at universities. The KKK should be allowed to speak at universities. Take your pick…there is no reasonable limit in your view. All views should be allowed a respectable forum to spew their views. You’d tell your own daughter (pretending you have one if you don’t) that she should abide her attacker in her home in the service of allowing all sides to have a forum. ---
**Author:** ![Quint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/76d3ee/32.png) [@Quint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quint)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/823 "2017-04-20T02:40:00Z")
> [@Beren\_Erchamion](#): > > So what he’s saying is, he doesn’t have the slightest fucking clue what post-modernism or Marxism are? > > Sounds like a typical moron. I don’t really have a clue what post-modernism or Marxism are, so I guess it would be fair to call me a typical moron. I’d be willing to wager that Jordan Peterson is a lot smarter than you are though. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/824 "2017-04-20T02:51:24Z")
> [@Quint](#): > > I don’t really have a clue what post-modernism or Marxism are, so I guess it would be fair to call me a typical moron. I’d be willing to wager that Jordan Peterson is a lot smarter than you are though. Do you go around spouting off your ideological analyses of your political opponents using words you don’t understand? If so, yeah, you’re a moron. He goes where he goes with his conjecture because it allows him to avoid the most obvious explanation for the protestors: they find him an odious little shit and hate the shit he spews. If he said that instead of blathering about how they don’t believe in individuality, it’d put the focus back on his views, which isn’t where he wants the focus to be. ---
**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/825 "2017-04-20T03:09:20Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Easy… > > It is worth probing the extremes. Is any any extreme ok with you or is there a line you are not willing to cross? > > So far you seem to be good with “anything goes”. There is nothing you would find too obscene or too offensive or too hateful. NAMBLA should be allowed to speak at universities. The KKK should be allowed to speak at universities. Take your pick…there is no reasonable limit in your view. All views should be allowed a respectable forum to spew their views. > > **You’d tell your own daughter (pretending you have one if you don’t) that she should abide her attacker in her home in the service of allowing all sides to have a forum.** (Bolding mine) Nice straw man, there! ---
**Author:** ![Quint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/76d3ee/32.png) [@Quint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quint)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/826 "2017-04-20T03:15:36Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Do you go around spouting off your ideological analyses of your political opponents using words you don’t understand? If so, yeah, you’re a moron. > > He goes where he goes with his conjecture because it allows him to avoid the most obvious explanation for the protestors: they find him an odious little shit and hate the shit he spews. If he said that instead of blathering about how they don’t believe in individuality, it’d put the focus back on his views, which isn’t where he wants the focus to be. I don’t think this is true at all. He talks to people one on one and listens to what they have to say frequently. He is willing to debate people and is thoughtful and articulate. He is not afraid to have the focus be on his views and actually sees the positive in people shouting and making noise so that he can’t be heard. I don’t necessarily agree with his position but I don’t think he should be silenced. He seems to be very paranoid of authoritarianism, which I suppose time will reveal if he is a paranoid crankpot or not. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/827 "2017-04-20T03:22:38Z")
> [@ArrMatey](#): > > (Bolding mine) > > Nice straw man, there! Actually, no. I caught the same thing. In the first hypothetical his daughter has escaped from a cult where she was abused, and her brothers want to have the cult leader as a guest speaker in their shared home. He agreed he would tell the daughter to deal. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Sanchez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@Rick\_Sanchez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/828 "2017-04-20T03:30:26Z")
I never said that, **raventhief**. Go back and re-read the post in question. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/829 "2017-04-20T03:32:02Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Actually, no. I caught the same thing. In the first hypothetical his daughter has escaped from a cult where she was abused, and her brothers want to have the cult leader as a guest speaker in their shared home. He agreed he would tell the daughter to deal. Because it took more than 5 minutes to track down the relevant posts… Bolding mine: > [@Rick\_Sanchez](#): > > Okay…so, in this analogy, I represent the university, right? If so, it follows that I would only invite people to speak at my house for the edification of my kids. So if _all_ my kids objected to my inviting a speaker to my house, I probably wouldn’t invite him, because I’d have absolutely no reason to. If, however, some of my kids _did_ want to hear the speaker and the rest of my kids _didn’t_, I’d turn to the ones who _didn’t_ want to hear the speaker and say _ **“Look, some of your brothers and sisters think they will learn something from this guest. It’s unfair to them for me to disinvite the guest just because you are offended by his views. Besides, if you find his views offensive, the best way to combat them is to hear them in his own words and question him directly. Furthermore, if I disinvite the guest because you’re offended by his views, what happens when you want me to invite a guest and your brothers and sisters demand I disinvite him because they’re offended, too? You wouldn’t like that, would you? So how about you treat your brothers and sisters the way you yourselves would like to be treated and let them listen to their speaker. Make your displeasure known, by all means, but don’t keep the guest from speaking.”** _ > > Then I’d sit in my armchair by the fire and smoke a pipe or something. > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > All very reasonable but lacks any nuance. > > When we like or dislike someone/something it is on a spectrum and not an either/or thing. > > Your decision making does not take into account just how passionate people can feel about certain topics. **What if your daughter had escaped a religious cult where she had been abused but your sons are really keen on hearing what the cult leader has to say and wants him to come over for dinner? Will you give your daughter that speech above?** > [@Rick\_Sanchez](#): > > Again, just to clarify, in this analogy I represent the university and my children represent the students, right? \*\*If so, I’d allow the cult leader to speak. I’d give my daughter that speech. \*\*If, the following week, my daughter wanted to invite a speaker who argued that the cult leader is a crazy motherfucker, I’d allow that speaker as well. If my sons objected, I’d give them the same speech. I really don’t see how much more unequivocal I can be on this topic. Also, lack of nuance isn’t necessarily a bad thing when defending free speech. It really is an either/or proposition. Too much hairsplitting, and free speech may end up dying the death of a thousand cuts. > > But speaking of nuance, isn’t it about time that you acknowledged that a family homestead isn’t exactly analogous to a modern university? Your comparison does rather skew the issue. These people aren’t being invited into anyone’s living room for tea and crumpets. They’re being invited into small rooms on _massive_ campuses where absolutely nobody is under any obligation to hear anything. When I was at university, I doubt I visited 1% of the spaces on campus in 4 years, and 99% of speakers probably came and went without my even hearing their names (admittedly, this was before Twitter). These allegedly controversial speakers aren’t being shoved in anyone’s faces. If you want to avoid them, you can. If you want to protest them, you can and provided you do it peacefully and don’t use the heckler’s veto to shut the speaker down I have absolutely no problem with that. You can’t really compare the invitation of a controversial speaker to a college campus with the invitation of a controversial guest to Sunday lunch. The dynamics are totally different. > > But let’s turn it around. Let’s say you’re the father/university dean/whatever. Let’s say the cult is Roman Catholicism and the speaker is an Archbishop. And let’s say that some of your children/students demand he be disinvited because his presence might be triggering to people who’ve been abused by Catholic priests. Would you disinvite him? If so, don’t you worry that might set a troubling precedent? If not, why not? > > Now, you might be thinking “But Roman Catholicism isn’t a cult”, and I’d agree…to an extent. But I’d also argue that ‘religion’ is simply the word we assign to cults when they reach a certain critical mass, and anyway, abuse is abuse. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/830 "2017-04-20T03:36:38Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > You are in the media. You are one of the gate keepers: who help decide what is and what isn’t a story. And you’ve clearly stated that a lot of the things that are important to me and important to a hell of a lot of people is not important to you. The inverse is also true: Things that are very important to me and lots of other people aren’t important to you or lots of other people who aren’t either of us. > [@](#): > > If you had editorial control: would you have run the Australian National University Bar story? What slant would you have put on the story? How would you have reported it? I probably wouldn’t have run it at all. 20 people talking about something on Facebook isn’t generally newsworthy, except for local issues. > [@](#): > > Pro-LGBT/Lefty views get shut down all the time. The ABU story you cited was an excellent example of that. How did the promoter respond to a simple question about representation? He shut it down. > > So spare me this false equivalence rhetoric. Look at yourself first. I’ve done far more stories on leftist issues than conservative ones and my Red Pen comes out far more often for conservative issues than it does for leftist ones. Local gay couple fundraising to pay for their trip in New Zealand to get married? Great story, I’d be happy to run that. Local greenie doing a collection of blankets for horses in winter? I personally am not all that interested in horses but lots of our readers love them so so yes, I’ll do that story; it will be nice. Someone thinks there’s too many immigrants stealing local jobs? Proooobably not doing that story, unless that someone gets together with some other someones and they organise a Kick Out The Foreigners society - in which case the story I write isn’t likely to be particularly sympathetic to their views. I know it’d be easy to paint me as this awful right-wing Imperialist who hates everything even slightly lefty and wishes it was 1912, but I’m afraid the situation’s a lot more nuanced than that. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/831 "2017-04-20T03:36:43Z")
> [@Rick\_Sanchez](#): > > I never said that, **raventhief**. Go back and re-read the post in question. You never said “deal,” true. You said that you would tell her “…So how about you treat your brothers and sisters the way you yourselves would like to be treated and let them listen to their speaker. Make your displeasure known, by all means, but don’t keep the guest from speaking.” About a man who abused her. \*In her house. \* ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/832 "2017-04-20T03:40:37Z")
> [@Quint](#): > > I don’t really have a clue what post-modernism or Marxism are, so I guess it would be fair to call me a typical moron. I’d be willing to wager that Jordan Peterson is a lot smarter than you are though. The sort of thing Peterson is referring to in regards to Post-Modernism is the same as pointed out in this article: [We Few, We Miserable Few](https://www.city-journal.org/html/we-few-we-miserable-few-15145.html) > [@](#): > > The students appear to argue that the ideal of free speech is based on a mystifying and oppressive concept of unitary truth, and that such a concept solidifies white supremacy: “The idea that there is a single truth—‘the Truth’—is a construct of the Euro-West that is deeply rooted in the Enlightenment . . . This construction is a myth and white supremacy, imperialism, colonization, capitalism, and the United States of America are all of its progeny. The idea that the truth is an entity for which we must search, in matters that endanger our abilities to exist in open spaces, is an attempt to silence oppressed peoples.” The quote is from the student’s “Manifesto” linked near the beginning of the article. The short of it is that **Beren Erchamion** is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Sanchez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@Rick\_Sanchez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/833 "2017-04-20T03:44:03Z")
Jesus raventhief, you literally quoted me saying “In this _ **ANALOGY** _, I represent the university”. You even bolder the very next line. How can you not see how dishonest you’re being? No, I would not invite an actual rapey cult leader into my actual home to address my actual children. I was simply playing along with the terms of Whack-A-Mole’s stupid hypothetical, which, in retrospect, was clearly a mistake. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/834 "2017-04-20T03:45:18Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > You never said “deal,” true. You said that you would tell her “…So how about you treat your brothers and sisters the way you yourselves would like to be treated and let them listen to their speaker. Make your displeasure known, by all means, but don’t keep the guest from speaking.” > > About a man who abused her. \*In her house. \* Though, I will give you this: the hypothetical doesn’t specifically say that the cult leader is the one abused her. He was ultimately responsible for her abuse, as the leader, and let’s be honest, a lot of times it IS the leader who is abusive. But maybe the Guest Speaker wasn’t the abuser. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Sanchez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@Rick\_Sanchez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/835 "2017-04-20T03:47:07Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > The sort of thing Peterson is referring to in regards to Post-Modernism is the same as pointed out in this article: > [We Few, We Miserable Few](https://www.city-journal.org/html/we-few-we-miserable-few-15145.html) > The quote is from the student’s “Manifesto” linked near the beginning of the article. > > The short of it is that **Beren Erchamion** is wrong. The short of it is that **Beren Erchamion** is a fucking idiot who has never met a left-wing shibboleth that didn’t make him cum his pants. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/836 "2017-04-20T03:50:10Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > The inverse is also true: Things that are very important to me and lots of other people aren’t important to you or lots of other people who aren’t either of us. > > I probably wouldn’t have run it at all. 20 people talking about something on Facebook isn’t generally newsworthy, except for local issues. > > I’ve done far more stories on leftist issues than conservative ones and my Red Pen comes out far more often for conservative issues than it does for leftist ones. > > Local gay couple fundraising to pay for their trip in New Zealand to get married? Great story, I’d be happy to run that. Local greenie doing a collection of blankets for horses in winter? I personally am not all that interested in horses but lots of our readers love them so so yes, I’ll do that story; it will be nice. > > Someone thinks there’s too many immigrants stealing local jobs? Proooobably not doing that story, unless that someone gets together with some other someones and they organise a Kick Out The Foreigners society - in which case the story I write isn’t likely to be particularly sympathetic to their views. > > I know it’d be easy to paint me as this awful right-wing Imperialist who hates everything even slightly lefty and wishes it was 1912, but I’m afraid the situation’s a lot more nuanced than that. You know the really ugly part of all this discussion about banning certain speech is? That the people advocating for that are the same that are quick to characterize you as in that last paragraph. The real problem is not that they want awful people to be denied a voice, the problem is that they want to decide who are those people and time and time again they’ve shown themselves to be very poor and self-serving judges of character. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/837 "2017-04-20T03:50:23Z")
> [@Rick\_Sanchez](#): > > Jesus raventhief, you literally quoted me saying “In this _ **ANALOGY** _, I represent the university”. You even bolder the very next line. How can you not see how dishonest you’re being? > > No, I would not invite an actual rapey cult leader into my actual home to address my actual children. I was simply playing along with the terms of Whack-A-Mole’s stupid hypothetical, which, in retrospect, was clearly a mistake. How am I being dishonest? I quoted the whole of YOUR posts, AND the analogies in question. Yes, you represent something else as you tell your daughter to just accept the fact that there is an abusive cult leader in her home. If you wanted to convey that you wouldn’t do that to your daughter, how about this? “No, this analogy doesn’t work.I would never tell my daughter to just deal with that situation. But it’s not analogous because…” Saying "OK, this is an analogy…YES I WOULD ABSOLUTELY TELL MY DAUGHTER THAT. I really don’t see how much more unequivocal I can be on this topic. " Makes it sound like you understand how analogies work, and how hypotheticals work, and you are unequivocally saying you \*would \*give your daughter that speech in the weird situation where your sons invited rapey cult leader into your home. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/838 "2017-04-20T04:08:34Z")
> [@PigArcher](#): > > You’ve heard of Gamergate, right? Yeah, well, it doesn’t count, because large-scale harassment campaigns aimed at shutting up critics and women are obviously free speech. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Beren\_Erchamion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/90ced4/32.png) [@Beren\_Erchamion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beren_Erchamion)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/839 "2017-04-20T06:07:08Z")
> [@Quint](#): > > I don’t really have a clue what post-modernism or Marxism are, so I guess it would be fair to call me a typical moron. I’d be willing to wager that Jordan Peterson is a lot smarter than you are though. Unlikely, inasmuch as he doesn’t have the slightest fucking clue what postmodernism and Marxism are, as evidenced by his 100%-reality-free explanations f them. I mean, thinking they’re the same thing, thinking they’re at all compatible, is itself proof of a complete failure of understanding. The most salient characteristic of post-modern epistemological tendencies is that they completely reject the stability and immutability of the discursive categories and binary oppositions that are fundamental to Marxism. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/840 "2017-04-20T06:29:36Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Yeah, well, it doesn’t count, because large-scale harassment campaigns aimed at shutting up critics and women are obviously free speech. :rolleyes: Hey, if critics and women can’t stand the heat maybe they should wear Ove Gloves while they are in the kitchen. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443.md?page=43)