# Stupid Social Justice Warrior Bullshit O' the Day.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 17, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443 "2017-03-17T22:14:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2017, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1081 "2017-05-30T12:23:07Z")

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> [@Emiliana](#):
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> Wait, college students are murdering people by the millions?

They of course don’t have the power to. If they did? Yeah, I think purges would be happening.

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**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1082 "2017-05-30T12:31:01Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> They of course don’t have the power to. If they did? Yeah, I think purges would be happening.

I’m definitely canceling office hours.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1083 "2017-05-31T12:57:24Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Today my husband and I met with a good buddy of mine, a socially conservative Presbyterian minister. (We are liberal atheists.) We talked for seven hours. We discussed, among other things: Donald Trump, cultural appropriation, abortion, the tenets of Catholicism, the history of Protestantism, rape laws as expressed in the book of Leviticus, and the film _Prometheus._ We enjoyed ourselves thoroughly. I feel so goddamn sorry for these backward kids who will never have an experience like that, just sitting down and talking to someone who views the world in a totally different way. What deprived lives they have. The poor little dears are so underprivileged.

I think there has been a trend in recent times by the left of removing themselves from contrary opinions. They SEEK liberal bubbles and vilify other liberals who aren’t quite liberal enough and kick them out of the bubble so they can believe that everyone thinks like they do.

They are following in the footsteps of conservatives but are they really a good example to follow?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1084 "2017-05-31T13:06:11Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> That’s the problem I thought out while typing. How do you teach _about_ religion without teaching religion. If a week long lesson could be shoehorned into another class, even that would be helpful.  
> But my issue with kids not knowing anything about religion is that even if you’re atheist (and I am) is that if you go so far in that direction that you won’t even allow your kids to hear about it, you’re depriving them of two or four or seven or whatever thousand years of history and culture and war and a lot of really interesting things that brought us to where we are right now today. As well as what I said earlier, they should be able to graduate high school and hold their own in a conversation about church or mosque or temple or whatever without having to say 'wait, which one is church? That’s Christian right?"

Well you can teach religion neutrally by starting with early religions that didn’t really have well defined concepts of deities to polytheism to monotheism to Abrahamic faiths. The problem is that Christians don’t like seeing Jesus being put in the same category as Thor. Same with Jews and Muslims.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1085 "2017-05-31T13:50:24Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1086 "2017-05-31T23:17:34Z")

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> [@Emiliana](#):
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> That sounds pretty tasty too. I can’t remember eating potatoes elsewhere in Mexico, but I believe they’re traditional in yucateca food. At least the stuff they stole from the Polish.

Potatoes come from Peru originally. All you potato eating cultural misappropriating sonsabitches send those potatoes to me for ummm errrrr uhhhh disposal RIGHT NOW! 😃

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1087 "2017-05-31T23:20:23Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [Here](https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/05/29/students-demand-firing-of-evergreen-state-professor-for-questioning-a-segregated-event/#comments)’s a new one.

That is just stupid.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1088 "2017-05-31T23:51:00Z")

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Honestly, that is the point at which the University should say;

“You know, this year is almost over and we’ve decided not to have you back next year.”

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1089 "2017-06-01T01:49:19Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> (My controversial argument was: ‘‘It’s irrational to hate and fear all men.’’)

Hate, sure. But as for fear, the argument I’ve read is that women in general experience so many sexist and aggressive interactions from male strangers out of the blue that it’s reasonable to expect they’d be at the very least nervous around them (especially when they know they’ll be at least partially blamed if they do get sexually assaulted).

> [@](#):
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> Today my husband and I met with a good buddy of mine, a socially conservative Presbyterian minister. (We are liberal atheists.) We talked for seven hours. We discussed, among other things: Donald Trump, cultural appropriation, abortion, the tenets of Catholicism, the history of Protestantism, rape laws as expressed in the book of Leviticus, and the film _Prometheus._ We enjoyed ourselves thoroughly. I feel so goddamn sorry for these backward kids who will never have an experience like that, just sitting down and talking to someone who views the world in a totally different way. What deprived lives they have. The poor little dears are so underprivileged.

Just to ask, how many of your buddy’s beliefs, if enshrined into law, would have a direct negative impact on you? Do you believe that he advocates said enshrinement in any way? If so, do you think that it would color your discussions with him if you would be so impacted? If not, do you think that that live and let live attitude is typical amongst conservatives?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1090 "2017-06-01T05:59:47Z")

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Here in Baja Canada, after a long and brutal struggle, a law permitting liquor stores to remain open on Sunday just passed, as Minnesota hurtles headlong into drunken depravity. Hugh Betcha.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1091 "2017-06-01T13:10:27Z")

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Another complaint about the creeping incursions of Socail Justice[tm], [this time about comic books](http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/07/marvel-social-justice-insanity/).

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1092 "2017-06-01T13:12:33Z")

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> [@Rick\_Sanchez](#):
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> To all the people in this thread pretending not to know what an SJW is

Hey, I know perfectly (see, for example, the citation in my previous post).

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1093 "2017-06-01T16:05:52Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Here in Baja Canada, after a long and brutal struggle, a law permitting liquor stores to remain open on Sunday just passed, as Minnesota hurtles headlong into drunken depravity. Hugh Betcha.

lol, I enjoyed that. being from MN:p

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1094 "2017-06-01T16:45:33Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Hate, sure. But as for fear, the argument I’ve read is that women in general experience so many sexist and aggressive interactions from male strangers out of the blue that it’s reasonable to expect they’d be at the very least nervous around them (especially when they know they’ll be at least partially blamed if they do get sexually assaulted).

I’ve read that argument, too. Without going into it too deeply, I think that for people with certain trauma histories this reaction is, in the very least, understandable. I do not, however, believe that the ‘‘universal mistrust of all men everywhere’’ is a healthy direction toward healing. I basically got slammed for having the opinion that there are healthy and unhealthy ways to deal with trauma. I dealt with mine very differently than the essayist in question, and I saw her coping mechanisms as counterproductive and generally harmful to gender equality. I’ll admit I didn’t broach it in the most tactful way. I have a lot of great men in my life and I have a hair-trigger response to that sort of negative generalization. I called the article ‘‘weak minded, irrational bullshit.’’ Negative generalizations about men or women is just one of those things that I react to emotionally.

> [@](#):
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> Just to ask, how many of your buddy’s beliefs, if enshrined into law, would have a direct negative impact on you? Do you believe that he advocates said enshrinement in any way? If so, do you think that it would color your discussions with him if you would be so impacted? If not, do you think that that live and let live attitude is typical amongst conservatives?

He’s anti-theocracy, so I don’t feel very threatened by his beliefs. He’s one of the most reasonable conservatives I’ve ever met, along with **ivylass**. (Though the two of them have pretty differing beliefs themselves.) I’m not sure what is typical amongst conservatives. I was raised in a rural conservative household among conservative working class folks but I don’t think many of them voted or thought very deeply about politics. I wasn’t disowned for being liberal, although some of my friends were certainly disowned for being gay. I did flee to the nearest liberal mecca as soon as I graduated. I think my inability to stereotype conservatives is at least partly a result of my more or less working class conservative upbringing. (Although I was the religious one in my family, go figure.)

I will say that I went through an active phase of seeking out conservative FB friends and I found it very difficult to identify people who didn’t make my blood pressure shoot through the roof. One guy I loved, but his ignorant friends made me all kinds of angry. There are certain kinds of people, regardless of political affiliation, who value open and honest discussion and a willingness to look critically at their own beliefs. They are probably in the minority, but these are the people I prefer to spend time with. I have a buddy who campaigned extensively for Bernie Sanders, and then Hillary Clinton. He has a weekly tennis game with a Trump supporter. He knows that there’s no way in hell we are ever going to move people on these issues until we try to understand where they are coming from. These are my people.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1095 "2017-06-01T17:14:03Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> lol, I enjoyed that. being from MN:p

I actually had some bumper stickers made that say;

MINNESOTA  
America’s Canada

if we have another MN dopefest, I’ll bring them.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1096 "2017-06-02T23:33:54Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Another complaint about the creeping incursions of Socail Justice[tm], [this time about comic books](http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/07/marvel-social-justice-insanity/).

It’s not the idea. Who gives a shit if Iron Man is a 15 year old girl.

It’s the stupid dialogue and cringey plots. It’s as if no one learned from DC’s mistake of Vibe back in the 80’s or how Jim Shooter wrote Rhodes in Iron Mans armor in Secret Wars.

Or a super-team of Black Panther, Storm\*, Misty Knight (?) and…that Aboriginie teleporter from Australia??? Yeah THERE’S a guy with cultural connections to the other three. (Yes i know he’s met Storm) Why not just throw in David Ortiz, Cleopatra and Black Manta. (I know Black Manta is DC)

\*Who debuted stellar dialogue such as “I see the mayonaisse shops haven’t moved into Harlem yet.”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Sanchez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@Rick\_Sanchez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1097 "2017-06-02T23:54:43Z")

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Bret Weinstein is on [Joe Rogan’s podcast,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq4Y87idawk) talking about the persecution he’s faced at the hands of the crybullies at Evergreen. It’s disturbing testimony. Student activists have not only targeted him, but other students who attend his lectures. They’ve barricaded faculty in a room while these beleaguered teachers hammer out a statement which accedes to their demands (the university President literally had to ask permission to go to the toilet). They held a meeting with faculty where food and chairs (_chairs, for fuck sake_) were reserved for non-whites.

Honestly, it’d be hilarious if it weren’t actually happening.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1098 "2017-06-02T23:58:30Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Well you can teach religion neutrally by starting with early religions that didn’t really have well defined concepts of deities to polytheism to monotheism to Abrahamic faiths. The problem is that Christians don’t like seeing Jesus being put in the same category as Thor. Same with Jews and Muslims.

Granted it was in college but I took a Philosophy of Religion class that was an excellent academic examination of the philosophical foundations of each major religion. Highly educational.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1099 "2017-06-03T00:12:45Z")

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> [@Rick\_Sanchez](#):
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> Honestly, it’d be hilarious if it weren’t actually happening.

Got what, a couple of weeks of school left at most?

Wait for them to go home, disinvite them from next year.

But of course they won’t do this.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1100 "2017-06-03T00:30:12Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> It’s not the idea. Who gives a shit if Iron Man is a 15 year old girl.
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> It’s the stupid dialogue and cringey plots. It’s as if no one learned from DC’s mistake of Vibe back in the 80’s or how Jim Shooter wrote Rhodes in Iron Mans armor in Secret Wars.
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> Or a super-team of Black Panther, Storm\*, Misty Knight (?) and…that Aboriginie teleporter from Australia??? Yeah THERE’S a guy with cultural connections to the other three. (Yes i know he’s met Storm) Why not just throw in David Ortiz, Cleopatra and Black Manta. (I know Black Manta is DC)
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> \*Who debuted stellar dialogue such as “I see the mayonaisse shops haven’t moved into Harlem yet.”

Jason Aaron’s _The Mighty Thor_ is mostly excellent, but there is a clunky moment when Thor runs into an old nemesis (I think it’s Absorbing Man and Titania??) and Titania is all, ‘‘Well, I’ll knock it off this time because it’s so awesome that you’re a woman!!!’’ And then it turns into this whole meta-commentary against the haters. And I’m just like, no. Just be awesome. That’s all you have to do is _be awesome._ I just feel it undermines the whole concept.

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