# Stupid Social Justice Warrior Bullshit O' the Day.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 17, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443 "2017-03-17T22:14:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1241 "2017-06-10T11:34:54Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Oh, [very well.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4BOZcDMw_A)

Slight derailment: I just learned where the nym of one of my favorite posters came from.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1242 "2017-06-10T12:31:52Z")

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> [@eulalia](#):
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> Did you even read past my first sentence? There’s your answer. If you want to be the center of it all, I certainly won’t try to stop you.

Gee, I can’t tell you how much it means to me that you are endorsing my ability to make posts from my own POV. I realize what a great personal sacrifice that is on your part.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1243 "2017-06-10T12:38:57Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Slight derailment: I just learned where the nym of one of my favorite posters came from.

Aw, thanks. Most of my usernames across the internet are some reference to Futurama.

See: Squiddification, Certified Wong Buggalo, Ocean Madness

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1244 "2017-06-10T12:50:05Z")

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About racism, IMHO, the stupidest, most shortsighted, most counterproductive thing ever done in the area of trying to fight it was to try to redefine the word to mean “prejudice plus power”, a special definition known mostly in " social justice " circles (almost to the point of being a dog whistle) and _ **vastly** _ more expansive than the traditional meaning. When the very loose definition is used against people not familiar with the “in group” usage, it does nothing but confuse issues, alienate people, and cause harm to the cause. They really should have tried to come up with a new term rather than use an existing term in a novel way.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1245 "2017-06-10T13:10:22Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> About racism, IMHO, the stupidest, most shortsighted, most counterproductive thing ever done in the area of trying to fight it was to try to redefine the word to mean “prejudice plus power”, a special definition known mostly in " social justice " circles (almost to the point of being a dog whistle) and _ **vastly** _ more expansive than the traditional meaning. When the very loose definition is used against people not familiar with the “in group” usage, it does nothing but confuse issues, alienate people, and cause harm to the cause. They really should have tried to come up with a new term rather than use an existing term in a novel way.

You’ve struck upon one of the things I’ve found most frustrating as a person fighting for social justice - there is no effective strategy. This is not effective communication to the point that it almost seems like a lapse in empathy. If a large number of people feel immediately defensive when you present your argument, then you’re probably not doing it right. ‘‘This is not about you,’’ (another common refrain) is not helpful either.

Now I’m getting pissed off about Evergreen all over again.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1246 "2017-06-10T14:15:18Z")

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It seems to me that the double standard exists on both sides. You can certainly object to regarding all men as potential rapists, but not if you’re cool with regarding all Muslims as potential terrorists or all blacks as potential robbers. (Or vice versa.)

If, on the other hand, you maintain your objection to stereotyping one group but not another, well, one has to ask what other dynamic might be operating here.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1247 "2017-06-10T17:15:24Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Yeah, owners always say that. Until you are on an airplane and a service dog attacks your face.
> 
> I don’t want to be bothered by a dog. I don’t want to move out of the way for someone’s stupid dog. I don’t want to hear it barking because it annoys me. I don’t want a large dog around me that could all of a sudden “go dog” and start biting. Do you really not understand why someone wouldn’t like dogs? Or want to be around them?
> 
> Now that my hang-ups about dogs are out of the way:

It’s not about your hangups about dogs, it is about you expecting dog owners to do exactly what you are objecting to, to realize that their presence may cause discomfort, and to take a small effort to prevent that discomfort.

For perspective though, [31 dog fatalities](http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2016.php), vs [325,000 sexual assautls](https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence).

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> How can you possibly say this with a straight face (or, uh, straight keyboard or whatever)?

Quite easily. First, as I did say “most women” and “most men”, leaving the fact that there is about a 10% gap of women who are physically stronger than maybe 50% of men. (These statistics are not highly researched and robust, but I doubt that they are all that far off.)

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> Any woman can be armed and threaten a man’s life. If that is not a physical risk then I don’t know what is. Are you saying a woman has never robbed a man at gun or knifepoint? If people are using your overblown threat scenarios about danger, then nobody should be walking on the street next to anybody.

And any man can be armed as well. This is where they are equal.

And you are probably right in the context that if you are coming up on pretty much anyone on a dark and deserted street, you should probably note that your presence may cause them discomfort, and make a small effort to alleviate that discomfort.

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> But hey, if you want to protect women and protect their feelings, but not do the same with men, more power to you. Just don’t consider yourself NOT a sexist.

It’s not sexism to recognize real difference between genders, and the real differences in obstacles that they encounter in their daily lives.

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> The fact that you don’t see how you can say the same thing to black people and have it be HIGHLY racist and offensive but you consider it an appropriate thing to say to men makes me doubt that YOU have any empathy. Or you are so caught up in your “must protect the females” mindset that you can’t see the sexist overtones you are giving off.

That’s a very poor analysis. I would say that to a black man as well. That if they are approaching a single woman on a dark, deserted street, they should take into account the context, and realize that they may cause some deal of discomfort should they overtake them or pass them closely.

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> To put it more simply: Why should I have to change my behavior based on someone’s unreasonable level of fear that is based on nothing more than the fact that I’m a man? Their sexist views on what I might do are THEIR problem, not mine. And it’s something that THEY need to deal with.

Why should dog owners change their behavior because you have an unreasonable fear of dogs?

It’s not asking you to change your behavior, just to pay attention to how your actions affect others, and if you see that your actions can affect others in a negative way, taking small steps to avoid that. In some few cases, some small amount of action on your part could help to avoid causing anxiety of fear on someone else’s.

No one is demanding you do this, or even asking strongly, just that you note that there are contexts in which you may, with no intent of your own, cause someone else harm, and if you realize those contexts, then you can avoid doing them that unintentional harm.

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Great, I’ll remember your advice when I see an Arab man on the street. I’ll tell him his presence is disturbing me and he should move to the other side of the street to show me he is non-threatening and polite :rolleyes:

If you did that, that would be rude, and not in any way what anyone in this thread is talking about.

There is possibility that within the muslim community there may be those who suggest that they be careful not to spook the white folks, but for white folks to suggest that to muslims or others of arab ethnic appearance, would be rude and racist.

Do you not see the difference here between an community saying to its members, “Hey, we should avoid doing this, becuase it may cuase unintentional harm”, vs someone from outside the community demanding that do the same?

> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I’m quite sure you’ll find that if any white man said “I’m afraid of groups of black people because I was attacked by a gang of black men one time” that they would be accused of racism and that they shouldn’t treat all black people like that because of an instance in their past.

Well, yeah, that’s racist, but for an understandable reason. People who get attacked by dogs have unreasonable fears about them, people who nearly drown often have unreasonable fears about water. People react to things that have harmed them in the past in ways that, to someone who has not experienced that trauma, seem unreasonable.

If they take that racism and try to form policy against black people due to it, then that’s a bit different, but as far as personal preference, if being a group of black people makes them uncomfortable, then who are you to tell them that they must endure that discomfort? They may lose out on going to some events that otherwise they may have enjoyed, they may even lose out on employment opportunities due to their racism.

But, there is a difference between being uncomfortable around people, and advocating against their interests. Both are technically racism, but one you can keep to yourself, the other, by definition, you are imposing on others. I do not consider the first type of racist to be a “bad” person, even though I think that they would be a happier person if they were able to overcome their fears. (I think you would be a happier person if you could overcome your fear of dogs too.)

> [@](#):
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> What about a store owner - “I follow black people around, because some black people robbed me one time” Is that racist, or trauma?

That’s racist. It is also affecting others. It is also based on conformational bias. And finally, it is a bad policy, because as you are following around the black guy, the white kids are robbing you blind.

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> What about a cop - “I think all black people are armed, because one time a black guy was armed” Is that racist, or trauma?

That’s also racist. It is also dangerous, as a cop has a gun and is charged with keeping order. If the cop needs to hold those racist views due to a traumatic event, then that’s the way things will be, but he needs to stop being a cop until he can get over it.

> [@](#):
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> I will agree with you if you think the same thing about motive and race. Would you consider it racist if a man was afraid of black people because a black person killed his entire family?

Yes, it would be racist. But, as we have said a few times, trauma is not always rational. If I knew this guy, and he expressed racist views, I would try to council him against those, but, having empathy, and understanding why he holds those views, as long as he doesn’t try to inflict them on others, then I don’t think that that makes him a “bad” person.

> [@Slash1972](#):
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> In any event, this is pretty much my point. I’m minding my own business, walking down the street, and now people are telling me:
> 
> “Hey it would be polite of you to cross the street”
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> “Yeah, why?”
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> “Because you are a man and you are scaring that woman”
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> “I’m not bothering her. That’s her problem”
> 
> “Yeah, well you have no empathy I guess. And you are rude”
> 
> I mean WTF? I’m being judged based on what others have done. And before anyone says “Yeah, that what non-white people have always experienced” then my answer is I know. And it’s wrong.
> 
> I’m not trying to take away the seriousness of rape or PTSD or whatever. I’m harmless, and being thought of as a bad person who might rape a woman on the street irks me.

Then you should probably avoid going out into public at all. There will be those who look at you as a potential threat, whether they be women, or just smaller men that think that your body language is threatening. People are going to think these things about you,m and there is not a thing in the world you can do about it, sorry about that.

Recognizing that there are certain situations where some effort on your part could greatly alleviate the discomfort of another part is not the same as the strawman you are throwing out here.

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**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1248 "2017-06-10T17:39:25Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Gee, I can’t tell you how much it means to me that you are endorsing my ability to make posts from my own POV. I realize what a great personal sacrifice that is on your part.

And how exactly is a woman who crosses the street to avoid you, or a man who crosses the street to avoid the possibility that a woman will be uncomfortable if he comes up on her hurting you?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1249 "2017-06-10T18:03:35Z")

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> [@eulalia](#):
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> And how exactly is a woman who crosses the street to avoid you, or a man who crosses the street to avoid the possibility that a woman will be uncomfortable if he comes up on her hurting you?

And where exactly did I claim that it did? Show me quotes.

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**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1250 "2017-06-10T18:28:58Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> There is also a guy who used to post over at Freethoughtblogs who has moved on to Patheos who once wrote an entry (I don’t know if it is still available) where he talked about how, if he is walking on a sidewalk and was coming up on a woman at a time when nobody else is around, he will cross the road and walk on the opposite sidewalk until he is a reasonable distance away from the woman to make her feel more comfortable.
> 
> I mean, I have no desire to make anyone uncomfortable, but come on!

> [@eulalia](#):
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> Okay, you won’t cross the street to make a woman feel safer. I don’t care one way or the other about that, as long as you don’t feel a need to get defensive if she crosses the street to make herself feel safer. How she feels is her business, unless she does something that hurts you.

> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I remember an incident when I was in college. I was crossing from one end of the campus to my (school owned) apartment on the other end of the campus (a walk that would take several minutes.) On a sidewalk explicitly for foot traffic of the students at that college. In broad daylight. I was walking at a normal pace, and there were a couple of girls around 100 feet or so ahead of me. They kept glancing back in my direction, then finally broke into a dead run like they expected immediate death. I thought that they were both complete and utter fucking morons.
> 
> About the article (which I wasn’t able to google up) it wasn’t so much that the guy mentioned doing that himself, but that in the article and in the comments section he was implying that it was more or less common courtesy, and that anyone that doesn’t do it is an insensitive jerk (which, frankly, you seem to be doing with the sentence “Okay, you won’t cross the street to make a woman feel safer.”) And to that, I say is it common courtesy for black males to cross the road to make people comfortable who might think a black man could be a robber? Is it common courtesy for people of an indeterminate shade between black and lily white to cross the road to make people comfortable who might think that they have a suicide vest strapped beneath their clothes? And can you twist your logic to say that these aren’t the very exact same fucking situation?

You didn’t read all of my first reply, and you didn’t go back to read it after I asked if you read past the first sentence. I said I didn’t care whether you would cross the street as long as you didn’t get defensive, and you proceeded to get defensive.

The girls who ran may not really have been thinking about you at all; how do you know they were?

If you are getting too close to me for my comfort, I will try to put some distance between us. Why shouldn’t I? I don’t know you. Why should I let you get close to me just to keep from offending you? Why do you object to other men being conscious of someone else’s feelings?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1251 "2017-06-10T18:40:27Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Another way of looking at this comes to mind–the clothes that women/girls wear can really screw with men/boys minds, especially tight, revealing clothes.

The onus is always on you as an adult member of society to control your behavior and your actions. If you cannot do this, then you will eventually be removed from society (ie, put in jail for your actions). And make no mistake, you are the one making the decision to think those thoughts, to not control yourself, and to do anything you’re stupid enough to do based on those thoughts and ideas in your head.

Because the simple fact is that you are entirely responsible for your own thoughts and actions. Period. There is no valid argument on your side of this.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1252 "2017-06-10T19:15:04Z")

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> [@eulalia](#):
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> You didn’t read all of my first reply, and you didn’t go back to read it after I asked if you read past the first sentence.

That is because the rest of your sentences are utterly irrelevant. The bit of your text was just a jumping off point to my comments, not a very special personal post dedicated to you and you alone. When you make claims about everything revolving around someone, you really need to take care of that log in your eye before pointing out the mite in mine. If I don’t lovingly caress every word that you write, you may want to take the hint that it is not all about you. I’ll just make the blanket statement now that in all future posts I will not necessarily be talking to you and you alone, so that you can stop tossing and turning at night about me failing to give a bullet-pointed address of your every captivating word.

> [@](#):
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> The girls who ran may not really have been thinking about you at all; how do you know they were?
> 
> If you are getting too close to me for my comfort, I will try to put some distance between us. Why shouldn’t I? I don’t know you. Why should I let you get close to me just to keep from offending you? Why do you object to other men being conscious of someone else’s feelings?

You may think that I’m stupid, but I’m not. I was the ONLY person behind them, and they kept turning to look at me specifically. I had no idea why until they broke into a run. But this wasn’t a secluded spot at night, this was the middle of the day on a college campus feet away from a busy road. I was over 100 feet from them, simply walking towards my apartment, where I had lived for years. Wide open, widely visible space, and if those girls thought they were about to be attacked in those conditions, then they were two of the stupidest morons to walk the face of the Earth. You seem to be under the impression that sincerely having a feeling makes it valid–but a feeling can be utterly sincere and still be utterly fucking stupid, and the person utterly fucking stupid for having it.

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**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1253 "2017-06-10T19:19:42Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> That is because the rest of your sentences are utterly irrelevant. The bit of your text was just a jumping off point to my comments, not a very special personal post dedicated to you and you alone. When you make claims about everything revolving around someone, you really need to take care of that log in your eye before pointing out the mite in mine. If I don’t lovingly caress every word that you write, you may want to take the hint that it is not all about you. I’ll just make the blanket statement now that in all future posts I will not necessarily be talking to you and you alone, so that you can stop tossing and turning at night about me failing to give a bullet-pointed address of your every captivating word.
> 
> You may think that I’m stupid, but I’m not. I was the ONLY person behind them, and they kept turning to look at me specifically. I had no idea why until they broke into a run. But this wasn’t a secluded spot at night, this was the middle of the day on a college campus feet away from a busy road. I was over 100 feet from them, simply walking towards my apartment, where I had lived for years. Wide open, widely visible space, and if those girls thought they were about to be attacked in those conditions, then they were two of the stupidest morons to walk the face of the Earth. You seem to be under the impression that sincerely having a feeling makes it valid–but a feeling can be utterly sincere and still be utterly fucking stupid, and the person utterly fucking stupid for having it.

Since a good part of my point was that it’s not all about you, or even a little bit about you, this is hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1254 "2017-06-10T19:33:39Z")

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> [@eulalia](#):
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> Since a good part of my point was that it’s not all about you, or even a little bit about you, this is hilarious.

No, it is ironic–you are saying that I think it is all about me while all you can do is whine about why I didn’t address every one of your sentences. You still don’t seem to understand this, so let me spell it out with smaller words: me and you not only people talk here. Me talk to every body, not just you. So when me quote part of you post, that not have to mean me talk only you. You project too fucking much. Got it now, or should I perform it with puppets?

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**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1255 "2017-06-10T19:48:17Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> No, it is ironic–you are saying that I think it is all about me while all you can do is whine about why I didn’t address every one of your sentences. You still don’t seem to understand this, so let me spell it out with smaller words: me and you not only people talk here. Me talk to every body, not just you. So when me quote part of you post, that not have to mean me talk only you. You project too fucking much. Got it now, or should I perform it with puppets?

If you’re not talking to me, then don’t quote me. I was talking to you, about your seeming issues with other men trying to be thoughtful, and you were the one doing the projecting originally, about what people think of you. I really don’t care what you think at all anymore, as you don’t seem to be able to pull your head out of your ass and look at things from another’s viewpoint.

About those girls who ran away, how do you know they didn’t just mistake you for someone else? Why were you apparently staring at them, as otherwise I don’t think you would have noticed them “looking back at you”. For that matter, how do you know it wasn’t someone behind you they were looking at?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1256 "2017-06-10T19:50:21Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I was the ONLY person behind them, and they kept turning to look at me specifically. I had no idea why until they broke into a run. But this wasn’t a secluded spot at night, this was the middle of the day on a college campus feet away from a busy road. I was over 100 feet from them, simply walking towards my apartment, where I had lived for years.

Had you showered yet that month?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1257 "2017-06-10T20:25:07Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Had you showered yet that month?

Judging from his interaction with **eulalia** , I’d say he was talking to them. When he saw them turn around, he said “Why are you looking at me? I pose no threat to you, but I bet you perceive me as a rapist, don’t you? Just like all women! You’re all judgmental bitches! BITCHES!”

They couldn’t run any faster.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1258 "2017-06-10T20:59:38Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Why were you apparently staring at them, as otherwise I don’t think you would have noticed them “looking back at you”. For that matter, how do you know it wasn’t someone behind you they were looking at?

As I said more than once, I was the only other person on the sidewalk. A sidewalk around 3 feet wide, with no other sidewalk to go onto. I was walking in the same direction, so “staring at them” amounted to nothing more than “looking forward.” I was doing absolutely nothing suspicious or wrong.

Look, I understand by saying that “if is not about me” is your way of saying that as a male I have no right to state (or even have) an opinion on the matter and that I should shut up, but I don’t give two-tenths of a rat’s ass about that very large and very obvious chip on your shoulder, so you are out of luck.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1259 "2017-06-10T21:58:57Z")

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And as I said above, every time they looked back, you made eye contact. It may be perfectly innocent, but it gives reason to believe that you may be following them.

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**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1260 "2017-06-11T01:39:14Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> As I said more than once, I was the only other person on the sidewalk. A sidewalk around 3 feet wide, with no other sidewalk to go onto. I was walking in the same direction, so “staring at them” amounted to nothing more than “looking forward.” I was doing absolutely nothing suspicious or wrong.
> 
> Look, I understand by saying that “if is not about me” is your way of saying that as a male I have no right to state (or even have) an opinion on the matter and that I should shut up, but I don’t give two-tenths of a rat’s ass about that very large and very obvious chip on your shoulder, so you are out of luck.

I think the one who has a chip on his shoulder would be the one who objects to other men being thoughtful and considerate, and objects to women looking out for their own self-preservation.

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