# Stupid Social Justice Warrior Bullshit O' the Day. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 17, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443 "2017-03-17T22:14:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 86
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1701 "2017-07-25T21:28:22Z")
> [@](#): > > Oh, go bacon a cat. As Eugene V. Debs is my witness, until you brought him up, I never heard of him. And I’ve been on the left since I got to be wiser than I was smart. I’m just guessing here, but wouldn’t be a bit surprised if that were the majority of reactions on this flagrantly lefty board. So, you talk like there’s just oodles and gobs, but confronted for facts, this is what you got? Not epic fail, but weak shit. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1702 "2017-07-25T21:45:49Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > As Eugene V. Debs is my witness, until you brought him up, I never heard of him. And I’ve been on the left since I got to be wiser than I was smart. I’m just guessing here, but wouldn’t be a bit surprised if that were the majority of reactions on this flagrantly lefty board. [Link](http://www.google.com/search?q=%22john+scalzi%22+site%3Aboards.straightdope.com&oq=%22john+scalzi%22+site%3Aboards.straightdope.com). > [@](#): > > So, you talk like there’s just oodles and gobs, but confronted for facts, this is what you got? Not epic fail, but weak shit. I never claimed that I was going to catalogs every time someone on the internet used the words “white tears”, I was making a semi-tangental off-the-cuff remark to someone that wasn’t you. You do nothing of substance other than troll on this thread, and I feel no obligation to do any research of anything for you. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1703 "2017-07-25T22:43:25Z")
Oh, OK, then its like all those times I heard Trump doing the “I Like Big Butts and Can’t Deny It” rap thingy? Or all those times I heard KellyAnne advocate for puppies stuffed into blenders? Being stuff that can be said without any obligation to back it up. Like that? Freak freely! Can you do the one about how much bigger Trumps Inaugural crowd was than Obama’s? Thats a favorite of mine! And then maybe “Freebird” for the encore? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1704 "2017-07-25T22:47:47Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > So random internet person was being obnoxious? Why does that stick out in your memory? Random internet person being obnoxious seems like pretty much the most mundane and common event in the universe. Random encounters can often leave the most lasting impression. There was one time someone shouted at my aunt, cousins and I to “go back to China.” That was a random encounter. Not on the Internet, but in person, but not much difference. I don’t consider to be something “mundane” and not worth recalling. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1705 "2017-07-25T23:40:29Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Oh, OK, then its like all those times I heard Trump doing the “I Like Big Butts and Can’t Deny It” rap thingy? Or all those times I heard KellyAnne advocate for puppies stuffed into blenders? Being stuff that can be said without any obligation to back it up. Like that? Freak freely! > > Can you do the one about how much bigger Trumps Inaugural crowd was than Obama’s? Thats a favorite of mine! And then maybe “Freebird” for the encore? What you are doing is known as [sealioning](http://www.google.com/search?q=sealioning). ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1706 "2017-07-26T01:07:44Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Every comment made on the internet anywhere, any time is pretty much some random person on the internet. So why pick and choose which examples are acceptable to notice and which aren’t? Why can some random person on the internet saying that all black people are criminals be allowed to stand as evidence of the existence of racism, but some random person on the internet gloating over white tears can’t be allowed to stand as evidence of the existence of SJWism? The people opposed to the very existence of this thread are sure going out if their way to rationalize away, special plead, and No True Scotsman every example given. It exists, I’m just arguing that it’s not particularly significant. White supremacism, for example, is both much more damaging and much more common. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1707 "2017-07-26T01:44:20Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > White supremacism, for example, is both much more damaging and much more common. I don’t doubt that–and talking about the terrible things that they say and do might be a good topic for a “White Supremicist bullshit of the day” thread. Nobody says there is a limit on topic-specific threads allowed here. There are threads for making fun if far-right nuts, why not a thread for making fun of far-left nuts? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1708 "2017-07-26T01:52:45Z")
Well, yes, the important thing to remember is that both sides do it. And a true non-partisan would say that they are pretty much the same. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1709 "2017-07-26T03:32:32Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > What you are doing is known as [sealioning](http://www.google.com/search?q=sealioning). Whats the term for “Oh and i’m sure you/they make fun of alt-rightists just as much, correct ??” Cause i see that a lot these days. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1710 "2017-07-26T03:47:25Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I don’t doubt that–and talking about the terrible things that they say and do might be a good topic for a “White Supremicist bullshit of the day” thread. Nobody says there is a limit on topic-specific threads allowed here. There are threads for making fun if far-right nuts, why not a thread for making fun of far-left nuts? That’s fine, but this thread IMO has been a lot of criticism of straw men and mischaracterized arguments and rather little in actual nut criticism. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1711 "2017-07-26T10:58:27Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > Whats the term for “Oh and i’m sure you/they make fun of alt-rightists just as much, correct ??” > > Cause i see that a lot these days. Hm. You mean [Tu Quoque](http://utminers.utep.edu/omwilliamson/ENGL1311/fallacies.htm)? (Number 129.) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1712 "2017-07-26T11:00:00Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > That’s fine, but this thread IMO has been a lot of criticism of straw men and mischaracterized arguments and rather little in actual nut criticism. From what I’ve seen, there have been links to many examples followed by No True Scotsmanning rebuttals. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1713 "2017-07-26T12:12:27Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I don’t doubt that–and talking about the terrible things that they say and do might be a good topic for a “White Supremicist bullshit of the day” thread. Nobody says there is a limit on topic-specific threads allowed here. There are threads for making fun if far-right nuts, why not a thread for making fun of far-left nuts? Mocking left-loonies and lampooning right-crazies carry different implications, because (as was diligently pointed out to me in another thread) Trump. The idea is that because our Prez is such a nutbag (and has cozied up to even more bizarre figures like Alex Jones), every fringe right-of-center moron must be taken seriously because they’ve been mainstreamed by Trump’s election. A gross exaggeration no doubt, but with a kernel of truth. As regards left-loonies, well, they’ve been oppressed you know :), so the dynamic is different. Still, if we can’t fulminate and make fun of idiots from across the political spectrum in the Pit (and even other forums), America is headed straight down the tubes. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1714 "2017-07-26T12:22:02Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > From what I’ve seen, there have been links to many examples followed by No True Scotsmanning rebuttals. Really? “No True Scotsman” would be saying those accused of being SJWs aren’t actually liberals. I’m not sure if I’ve seen that more than a couple of times in this thread. What I recall seeing is a small number of liberal jerks being dumb and/or assholes in the links (thus perhaps reasonably qualifying for the purpose of the thread, even if I think the SJW moniker is obnoxious and trivializes reasonable concerns about social justice), plus a bunch of accusations of bad behavior for stuff that actually looked pretty reasonable to me. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1715 "2017-07-26T12:32:17Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Mocking left-loonies and lampooning right-crazies carry different implications, because (as was diligently pointed out to me in another thread) Trump. > > The idea is that because our Prez is such a nutbag (and has cozied up to even more bizarre figures like Alex Jones), every fringe right-of-center moron must be taken seriously because they’ve been mainstreamed by Trump’s election. A gross exaggeration no doubt, but with a kernel of truth. As regards left-loonies, well, they’ve been oppressed you know :), so the dynamic is different. > > Still, if we can’t fulminate and make fun of idiots from across the political spectrum in the Pit (and even other forums), America is headed straight down the tubes. ☹ It’s not that every fringe right-of-center moron needs to be taken seriously, it’s that the fringe right-of-center morons hold political office, have their own show on fox, a radio show, or in other ways have much exposure and following. The left-loonies for the most part are comments on an obscure blog that no one has ever heard of, or if they are really popular and influential, they have an obscure blog of their own that no one has ever heard of. Equating the likes of Trump, of Ryan, or even of Limbaugh or Coulter to the likes of, who was that again that posted on some blog about looking foward to “white tears”?, is not in any way an honest argument. ---
**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1716 "2017-07-26T14:28:30Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > The left-loonies for the most part are comments on an obscure blog that no one has ever heard of, or if they are really popular and influential, they have an obscure blog of their own that no one has ever heard of. Or they are college professors and administrators and decide what to put in the curriculum. Or they get into influential positions where regulations and laws are made. Or they get into the film industry and ruin Dr Who. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1717 "2017-07-26T16:06:48Z")
> [@Latro](#): > > Or they get into the film industry and ruin Dr Who. Moffatt was a left-loonie? I did not know… ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1718 "2017-07-26T21:28:32Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Moffatt was a left-loonie? I did not know… No, Moffat is a misogynist douchebag. I’m guessing **Latro** means they ruin Doctor Who by making one of the doctor’s incarnations a woman. The horror, the horror. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1719 "2017-07-26T21:40:03Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > No, Moffat is a misogynist douchebag. In some religious systems, misogynists are said to be reincarnated as douchebags… ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1720 "2017-07-26T21:44:23Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > In some religious systems, misogynists are said to be reincarnated as douchebags… I’m a true believer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443.md?page=85) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443.md?page=87)