# Stupid Social Justice Warrior Bullshit O' the Day.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 17, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443 "2017-03-17T22:14:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1922 "2017-08-18T21:49:34Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> If we pretend that the KKK and Nazis don’t exist, that doesn’t make them go away. Those people simply think “See? There are no consequences to joining us. No one is going to protest us because most of them agree with us.”

Besides, let’s all ask Germany how well it worked out in the 1930’s.

A little fringe group of loonies and malcontents to be ignored or laughed at, but then they took over and killed millions of people.

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**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1923 "2017-08-19T00:25:08Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> But you don’t actually have any interest in the evidence, or making an argument that supports your position, so I’m not sure why I’m stupid to avoid unequivocal statements one way or another. Like I actually was interested in what you had to say, as in what evidence has brought you to your conclusion, because I’m interested in learning. And you’re shitting all over me for no apparent reason.

You could always start a great debate if you wish. The reason I am shitting on you is that I disagree with you and this is the forum where I am free to shit on you for disagreeing with me. If my own mother was posting in here, and I disagreed with her, I’d call her a dummy too (I hope you enjoy the irony of that statement). If you go to great debates with this topic I would be happy to be as polite as I am capable of.

I know you wish to learn and seek some evidence, but I don’t know how it isn’t obvious to you from simple experience as a person over the age of 1. It’s unbelievable actually. It’s simple, in the world we live in today, an unequivocal statement concerning the effect of sexism/patriarchy on sex biases is thoroughly justifiable. The evidence is obvious, it requires that you have lived for more than 1 hour on planet Earth, interacted with humans, are human and can understand what other humans say and do, and are capable of at least the slightest bit of reflection on one’s experiences without too much effort.

> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> Not in Australia because of political reasons, but I’m pretty sure that’s what happened in New Zealand.

In either case, there were people making noise about the injustice of not recognizing gay marriage. That’s the point. I think I said something similar to you before. Every person’s concrete effort to move toward gay marriage in Australia, no matter how small, such as asking their ceremony fit with their beliefs, contributes positively toward the effort. Now if this couple you mentioned happens to think they did more than someone who went out and campaigned for years for gay marriage, then I would agree with you: they are a class of asswipe.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1924 "2017-08-19T03:27:37Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Besides, let’s all ask Germany how well it worked out in the 1930’s.
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> A little fringe group of loonies and malcontents to be ignored or laughed at, but then they took over and killed millions of people.

You really don’t know how the Nazis rose to power, do you? you’ll find that some of of the factors that led to that was that they capitalized on street violence between them, state forces, communists and anarchist and they were heavily suppressed by the government, Hitler wrote Mein Kampf in jail, in case you didn’t know.

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> [(In 1926)… the splinter group led by Adolf Hitler had 49,000 members throughout all of Germany. It was in sad shape in the capital, where it could only boast a few hundred members.
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> …  
> On Feb. 11, 1927, the Nazi Party meeting turned into a violent brawl between the two groups. Beer glasses, chairs and tables flew through the hall, and severely injured people were left lying covered with blood on the floor. Despite the injuries, it was a triumph for Goebbels.
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> …  
> Street battles and brawls at political meetings forged a sense of unity and camaraderie among party members in Berlin.  
> …  
> Five days after Hitler’s speech at the Clou, the police banned the Nazi Party in Berlin. But that didn’t stop its ascent.
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> …  
> On Jan. 14, 1930, Albrecht Höhler, a communist pimp, shot the SA officer, who was living with a former prostitute, in the mouth…His funeral illustrated how just out-of-control Berlin had become. Communists attacked the funeral procession and tried to seize the coffin…  
> But the killing of one of its most powerful propagandists didn’t weaken the Nazi movement in Berlin.
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> …  
> Even the communists, who had initially hoped to fight off the Nazis with fists, brass knuckles and revolvers (their motto was: “Beat the fascists wherever you encounter them!”)]([How the Nazis Succeeded in Taking Power in 'Red' Berlin - DER SPIEGEL](http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/how-the-nazis-succeeded-in-taking-power-in-red-berlin-a-866793.html))

Ever heard of the Beer Hall Putsch?

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> [About two thousand Nazis marched to the centre of Munich, where they confronted the police, which resulted in the death of 16 Nazis and four police officers.[1] Hitler himself was not wounded during the clash, although he locked his left arm with the right arm of Max Erwin von Scheubner-Richter who, when he was shot and killed…
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> …  
> From Hitler’s perspective, there were three positive benefits from this attempt to seize power unlawfully. First, the putsch brought Hitler to the attention of the German nation and generated front page headlines in newspapers around the world. His arrest was followed by a 24-day trial, which was widely publicized and gave Hitler a platform to publicize his nationalist sentiment to the nation. Hitler was found guilty of treason and sentenced to five years in Landsberg Prison.[3] The second benefit to Hitler was that he used his time in prison to produce Mein Kampf…
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> …  
> Though Hitler failed to achieve his immediate stated goal, the putsch did give the Nazis their first exposure to national attention and a propaganda victory.]([Beer Hall Putsch - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch))

After being beaten, shot and killed they didn’t go away, instead they fetishized the blood spilled among that violence and used as propaganda.

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> [The Blutfahne (pronounced [bluːtˈfaːnə]), or Blood Flag, is a Nazi German hakenkreuz flag that was carried during the failed Beer Hall Putsch in Munich, Germany on 9 November 1923, during which it became soaked in the blood of one of the SA men who died. It subsequently became one of the most revered objects of the NSDAP (Nazi Party). It was used in ceremonies in which new flags for party organisations were consecrated by the Blood Flag when touched by it.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blutfahne)

So you know what? if instead of giving the Nazis the violence they wanted to gain power they would had been ignored and mocked history may had been different.

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**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1925 "2017-08-19T04:36:37Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> The point is not to force the balance. The point is to notice the imbalance, and make sure that there are no social pressures that is causing that imbalance to persist.

This is why policing is balanced by population.

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**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1926 "2017-08-19T08:37:20Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> You really don’t know how the Nazis rose to power, do you?
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> …
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> So you know what? if instead of giving the Nazis the violence they wanted to gain power they would had been ignored and mocked history may had been different.

Those who don’t know history, are bound to repeat it.  
QED.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2017, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1927 "2017-08-20T12:54:23Z")

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I’m not entirely sure what the point of this in [The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/08/american-totality-eclipse-race/537318/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark) is supposed to be, but I think the author is claiming the eclipse is racist.

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2017, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1928 "2017-08-20T13:10:46Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> I’m not entirely sure what the point of this in [The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/08/american-totality-eclipse-race/537318/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark) is supposed to be, but I think the author is claiming the eclipse is racist.

No, the author is explicitly not claiming that:

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> Presumably, this is not explained by the implicit bias of the solar system. It is a matter of population density, and more specifically geographic variations in population density by race, for which the sun and the moon cannot be held responsible.

Rather, the author is using the path of the eclipse as a framing device to explore the history of race and geography in various parts of America. One can reasonably disagree that the eclipse makes a useful device for looking at this issue – or with the author’s conclusions in general – but the article certainly doesn’t claim the eclipse is at fault for any of it, just that it coincidentally passes over areas where this history continues to shape who lives where.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1929 "2017-08-20T14:14:33Z")

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> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
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> One can reasonably disagree that the eclipse makes a useful device for looking at this issue

Ah, good. I prefer to be reasonable.

I’d think that article was a hoax, if the author weren’t listed as a visiting professor on the [Harvard Law School](http://hls.harvard.edu/faculty/directory/11653/Ristroph) website.

I still like _The Atlantic_ in general, but they publish some real turdcakes sometimes.

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1930 "2017-08-20T16:08:29Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Ah, good. I prefer to be reasonable.
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> I’d think that article was a hoax, if the author weren’t listed as a visiting professor on the [Harvard Law School](http://hls.harvard.edu/faculty/directory/11653/Ristroph) website.
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> I still like _The Atlantic_ in general, but they publish some real turdcakes sometimes.

If the author had not mentioned the eclipse at all, and had simply published an article about how the history of racial discrimination shapes where people live in America today, would you still think this was a terrible article? Terrible enough to mistake it for a hoax?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2017, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1931 "2017-08-20T22:31:21Z")

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This is only mild stupidity, more a poor choice of words than anything else, but stil funny:

> **[Obama DHS Sec. Says Removal of Confederate Statues a Matter of ‘Homeland...](https://freebeacon.com/politics/johnson-removal-confederate-statues-homeland-security/)**
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> "That's a matter of public safety and homeland security and doing what's right."

Jeh Johnson says that taking down Confederate statues is a matter of “homeland security”. Obviously, Johnson was quite recently Homeland Security head and failed to notice this grave threat to homeland security.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1932 "2017-08-21T14:59:09Z")

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> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
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> If the author had not mentioned the eclipse at all, and had simply published an article about how the history of racial discrimination shapes where people live in America today, would you still think this was a terrible article? Terrible enough to mistake it for a hoax?

Fair question. I suspect that such an article wouldn’t exist, or at least would not have appeared in _The Atlantic_, since “many places in the US are mostly white” and “a lot of bad things have been done to black people” are neither revelatory discoveries nor controversial positions— and without the awkward shoehorning into the eclipse event, her meandering observations about Bruce Springsteen and Eminem would seem bizarre rather than merely forced.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1933 "2017-08-21T22:23:41Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> This is only mild stupidity, more a poor choice of words than anything else, but stil funny:
> 
> [http://freebeacon.com/politics/johnson-removal-confederate-statues-homeland-security/](http://freebeacon.com/politics/johnson-removal-confederate-statues-homeland-security/)
> 
> Jeh Johnson says that taking down Confederate statues is a matter of “homeland security”. Obviously, Johnson was quite recently Homeland Security head and failed to notice this grave threat to homeland security.

Well, if these statues are removed, then they are gone.

If they are gone, if they don’t exist anymore, we don’t have to fight to protect them anymore, cuz they’re gone.

Da Homeland iz securitied real good 😃

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1934 "2017-08-22T02:12:45Z")

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Actually, in the short term the campaign to remove them makes terrorism a lot more likely. That’s why the “homeland security” argument is a bit dumb, and more importantly, unnecessary. We have other reasons to do it. Making us safer isn’t one of them. It’s more to put a halt to the ongoing insult to African-Americans that these monuments represent.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1935 "2017-08-22T02:14:10Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Actually, in the short term the campaign to remove them makes terrorism a lot more likely.

IOKWACDI. a

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1936 "2017-08-23T02:21:03Z")

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[Announcer Robert Lee pulled from UVA game](https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/msespn-pulls-asian-announcer-named-robert-lee-off-uva-game-avoid-offending-idiots/)

Don’t know which Twitter joke I like most: “Congratulations to President Trump on his reelection” or “Bob Ley said to be scared”

Edit: This may be satire. If it is, it’s fairly good.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1937 "2017-08-23T02:36:34Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> [Announcer Robert Lee pulled from UVA game](https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/msespn-pulls-asian-announcer-named-robert-lee-off-uva-game-avoid-offending-idiots/)
> 
> Don’t know which Twitter joke I like most: “Congratulations to President Trump on his reelection” or “Bob Ley said to be scared”
> 
> Edit: This may be satire. If it is, it’s fairly good.

Do you really think ESPN is what you call “social justice warriors” or just doing it out of fear of the Nazis?

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1938 "2017-08-23T03:03:01Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Do you really think ESPN is what you call “social justice warriors” or just doing it out of fear of the Nazis?

This thread long ago morphed into “Dumbass shit done in the name of ‘the left’”

And yes. ESPN are SJWs.

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**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1939 "2017-08-23T03:04:17Z")

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Perhaps they do it out of misguided, mind-boggling cowardice.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1940 "2017-08-23T03:18:08Z")

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Wouldn’t be the first time an Asian was expected to pay for what white people did to black people.

No, ESPN is not a “social justice warrior”, but it is an example of stupid PCness, so it counts.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-social-justice-warrior-bullshit-o-the-day/782443/1941 "2017-08-23T03:20:27Z")

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The jokes here are endless. So if an ESPN announcer says that the defense stood like a stone wall, will he get fired?

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