Well, yeah, I care.
Because we just bought a new fridge too/*.
And I failed to understand why my wife insisted on having the freezer on top.
So if you could explain why you prefer it, I might be able to save some money by not hiring a divorce lawyer.
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/* a nice simple fridge with no ice maker, no buttons, no bluetooth, no backup camera, etc. And in plain ol’ white! I like it, but I still don’t get the point of a freezer on top.
I’m wondering what your freezer on top looks like - if it looks like the ones in ads , where everything is in the package it came in and nothing is piled more than two items high and there’s a lot of empty space, maybe I can understand. That has never been my freezer. There’s a fair amount of food not in the store packages , either because I don’t freeze in that sort of package or because I break the quantity down or because it’s something I made and froze. There’s never any empty space - it’s basically like a chest freezer with a different orientation. This is close to what it looked like- but more jammed. Can’t even see what’s in the back - definitely can’t get it without taking everything out in the front. Oh, and since I’m only 5’1" , I’ll need the stepstool to reach the back.
New fridge is up and running! I found another reason I don’t like a top freezer. Since I’m not used to having the fridge configured that way, when I went into the fridge and then stood up fast I whacked my noggin on the corner of the freezer door or maybe it was the handle! UGH I said a few nasty words. Other than that it’s ok. The freezer has two door shelves and one shelf inside. I don’t keep a lot of items in that freezer - just stuff that’s used frequently like ice cream. Most frozen stuff goes into the chest freezer in the basement which is another bad design. But since I don’t go in there too often and I don’t have it packed to the top it’s kind of a non-issue.
The freezer-on-top configuration is what I’ve always had, and it has always worked fine for me. I (who am fairly tall) can see and reach into the freezer easily, while also being able to see into and reach the refigerator compartment (it being larger).
If the smaller compartment were on the bottom, there would be nothing in it I could reach, or maybe even see, without bending over. A freezer on the bottom with a door that swings open (the way a freezer on top has) would be a nightmare—I imagine I’d have to get down on my hands and knees to even see what was in there. So that leaves a pullout drawer configuration, which strikes me as messy and complicated and inefficient and hard to work with and still requires too much bending over.
A side-by-side configuration isn’t as bad, but I’m not fond of the small narrow layout that seems to give less flexibility in how things are arranged.
As I said, the traditional freezer-on-top configuration is the only kind I’ve had, so I’m used to it and I know it works for me. I’ve only had experience with other layouts at other people’s houses. Once you consider that freezer-on-top is significantly cheaper, the decision becomes a no-brainer: why pay more for something I’d like less?
This probably even meets the subject of this thread. My refrigerator has the freezer on the bottom, and it is bad. This particular brand and model of fridge was the lowest ranked fridge by Consumer Reports about 10 years ago. It is loud, poorly arranged, is unreliable, and expensive. It was the most expensive fridge they tested that didn’t have an ice maker or water. Even Roper and other low tier brands rated higher, because at least those were cheap.
Anyway, to the bottom freezer. Because the freezer is on the bottom, there are three sliding drawers. The drawers and their mechanisms take up lots of room in the freezer. Two of the drawers have plastic tubs set in them. The middle drawer does not. The middle drawer is very narrow. It is just tall enough for the small icecube trays that came with the fridge. So one whole drawer devoted just to ice cubes, because it is too short for storage. Maybe a pound of ground meat on a flat tray will fit in there, but the tubes of meat are too tall.
The bottom tray is the largest, and has all of the disadvantages of a regular freezer and a chest freezer. Because the door opens at the front, all of the cold air can spill out, unlike a chest freezer. However, because everything is in a big tub, you still have to dig around in it to find anything, just like a chest freezer.
It was brand new came with the house, and despite the CR low ratings on reliability, it refuses to die. Every time it makes a new noise or stops being cold, I hope it is dead. Unfortunately it just means something is up against the temperature sensor in the back, and as soon as I rearrange things inside the fridge, it will get cold again. The noises just come and go.
I’ve had side-by-sides since I was a kid, with a cheap-ass top-freezer once in military quarters. Did not like. Stuff didn’t pile well and whatever I wanted was in the back and inaccessible.
Last year we moved to new digs that came with a so-called Y-fridge. The freezer is a giant pull-out drawer on the bottom and the top 2/3rds is fridge with a double door. The interior of the fridge is spacious and easy to use. lots of ways to arrange the various shelves to accomodate the eights of good you buy. Due to some ingenious mechanical engineering, you can open either door half leaving the other closed to keep more cool in. Unless of course you want to get into the single full-width crisper / meat drawer that runs across the bottom of the fridge. Then you must swing both doors wide open to slide the drawer out. That would have been so superior had it been two separate drawers. Missed it by that much!
The freezer is a mild PITA. As with @echoreply, a lot of room is consumed by sliding trays to avoid just piling stuff in there 24" and 5 layers deep. It has a special slot just behind the door sized for boxed frozen pizzas to stand upright. Which is real clever for people who eat that garbage but is 100% wasted space for us. So instead of being ~24" deep inside, the usable freezer is 21" deep. Loss of 10% right there.
The doors are kinda fun. In a “Wow, did Marketing really make Engineering jump through hoops for this gimmick!” way. But it seems to work fine.
This is a Whirlpool brand (made in China of course), so nothing uber snazzy. Somewhere in the upper reaches of Whirlpool’s line, but that’s like saying you’ve got a nicely-loaded Chevy. It came with the apartment and that’s good enough for me.
Pretend you’re a designer at a company that makes refrigerators. They’ve been made for decades and the basic design is still the same; doors or drawers that open to a chilled or a frozen compartment. How can you make your new design stand out? Because essentially it’s all been done already.
Making white goods “interesting” has to be a horrid sort of prison sentence for the design team. Kinda like the chefly folks who have to design school lunch program menus. “I went to Escoffier for this!!? ”
It’s sort of like that. But we make double batches of nearly everything. So there are Tupperware containers of soup and stew. It also has cleverly designed space in the door. That’s mostly for anything that’s in a bag like frozen french fries.
Our typical approach is to cook a big batch of soup or a cassarole on the weekend and eat it all week, every night. It sometimes finds its way the freezer, but we usually just eat it. I’m not at home now, I think we have a container of mulligatawny soup in the freezer.
But, at least you can see what you have. I compare it to a cabinet (can see everything), vs. a footlocker (don’t know what’s on the bottom)
Mine is a mix of things in assorted types of store packages – some are boxes, some various sorts of bags – and leftovers in freezer containers and/or in bags. (Long-term storage items are in the chest freezers.) Again, I put a shelf in there. Items of one sort go in one part, items of another sort in another part, anything that won’t fit under or on top of the shelf goes in front of it. Almost nothing is more than 2 or 3 items deep and not separated by a shelf. I’m pretty sure I’d find it harder to find things in a pullout drawer at the bottom; and I’m also pretty sure that multiple pullout drawers would both take up too much space and make it impossible to fit some containers in the height.
The pullout drawers at the bottom of the top-freezer fridge are the produce drawers, and therefore already limited in category much more than the freezer; and not large enough to be hard to find things in.
I once briefly lived with a side-by-side. It was very annoying because large things (say a full sized turkey) didn’t fit anywhere.
You didn’t happen to hear about the VanMoof bankruptcy, did you? Apparently they tried to be the “Apple of bicycles”, doing everything differently from how every other bike works, so no one other than their own repair shops knows how to fix them. And now that they’re bankrupt, those repair shops don’t exist anymore.
There is a serious sub-culture in cycling that creates bikes as light in weight as possible - carbon-fibre screws (actually carbon-fibre everything), minimal spokes etc. I suppose it’s a variation on people hot-rodding and customising cars.
Google “weight weenies”.
A Tour de France bike must weigh a minimum of 6.8 KG. I have seen weight-weenie bikes under 5kg and ‘projects’ at less than 4kg.
A bedroom that’s not mine but that I frequently sleep in also has a bedroom clock with a giant digital display with bright blue lights, bad enough to seep through closed eyelids at close range.
The first thing to do when turning in is to turn the anti-sleep aid upside down, so the light pollution goes away. (I don’t dare to switch the clock off and risk messing the settings).
Yeah, my perhaps was wondering if having on beefy fork instead of two saved weight. I know how weight conscious bike folks are, my wife did full Ironmans. Not anymore though.