# Stupidest thing lekatt has said to date

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupidest-thing-lekatt-has-said-to-date/656130>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 19, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupidest-thing-lekatt-has-said-to-date/656130 "2013-04-19T13:02:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupidest-thing-lekatt-has-said-to-date/656130/81 "2013-08-27T13:36:08Z")

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The Father, the Son and the Holy Getaway Driver.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupidest-thing-lekatt-has-said-to-date/656130/82 "2013-08-27T13:46:20Z")

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> [@hotflungwok](#):
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> I actually managed to beat it. Nearly drove me insane though.

I think you might be beating it wrong.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupidest-thing-lekatt-has-said-to-date/656130/83 "2013-08-27T14:05:32Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> I think you might be beating it wrong.

If it nearly drives you insane, I’d say you’re beating it just right.

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupidest-thing-lekatt-has-said-to-date/656130/84 "2013-08-27T14:41:04Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> I think you might be beating it wrong.

I doubt that, I’ve got way to much experience at it to still be doing it wrong at this point.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupidest-thing-lekatt-has-said-to-date/656130/85 "2013-08-27T16:29:23Z")

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> [@shiftless](#):
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> I had a college girlfriend who claimed to believe the same thing. All belief systems were valid to her, even when they contradicted each other. One argument that I remember had me screaming “how can a thing be both blue and not blue at the same time!?” while she smiled and quietly stated “it just can.” It was infuriating to a young man still wrestling his way out from under the yoke of a Christian upbringing.

Have you heard the word about [The Invisible Pink Unicorn](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn)? She might be able to save your soul, if there is such a thing as a soul, and if She had the ability to save souls, and if She was so inclined to save them, yours in particular.

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**Author:** ![jsutter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@jsutter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsutter)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupidest-thing-lekatt-has-said-to-date/656130/86 "2013-08-29T00:01:12Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I know that there are far too many lekatisms to chose from, but today I think he topped himself by stuffing 700 pounds of stupid into a 6 ounce post.
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> [I don’t deny atheism I just believe in God.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16210172&postcount=583)

> [@Atheism](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism/649288/583):
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> I don’t deny atheism I just believe in God.

I’m with lekatt on this one.

IMHO, the atheist is one who professes not to believe what theologians have taught him about God/Allah/ Buddha/etc … with very good reason; the idea of a universal theology is pure BS and the rational for most of our wars. Let us simplify things and speak of the source of all as “X”.

IMHO, atheism=anti-theology, not anti-X. This be true then I am an atheist. I presume that I did not create myself and am created by X. The only question I face then is, am I created a part of X or apart from X?

Apart from X I am lost and need a “savior” to find peace of mind. A part of X, I am at peace, Alpha and Omega.

Thus, it makes no difference what name I give Alpha. I just believe in X.

Aloha

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupidest-thing-lekatt-has-said-to-date/656130/87 "2013-08-29T00:35:03Z")

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> [@jsutter](#):
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> I’m with lekatt on this one.
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> IMHO, the atheist is one who professes not to believe what theologians have taught him about God/Allah/ Buddha/etc … with very good reason; the idea of a universal theology is pure BS and the rational for most of our wars. Let us simplify things and speak of the source of all as “X”.
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> IMHO, atheism=anti-theology, not anti-X. This be true then I am an atheist. I presume that I did not create myself and am created by X. The only question I face then is, am I created a part of X or apart from X?
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> Apart from X I am lost and need a “savior” to find peace of mind. A part of X, I am at peace, Alpha and Omega.
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> Thus, it makes no difference what name I give Alpha. I just believe in X.
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> Aloha

We can make this much, much simpler.

There’s no evidence of a god, and no reason to believe in one other than a desire for whatever solace the fantasy brings.

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**Author:** ![jsutter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@jsutter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsutter)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupidest-thing-lekatt-has-said-to-date/656130/88 "2013-08-29T00:45:45Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And here we get to my main problem with **lekatt’s** “expertise” when it comes to NDE’s, because here is _his_:No “brilliant Socratic reasoning” needed to point out the problem here, I think.

Well, I could use some help … unless you’re saying that it’s your problem, not lekatt’s. If so, why?

NDEs are a dime a dozen and YMMV. I have been immersed in one for the past nine mos and it has been a white knuckle masterpiece. But I sure learned a lot.

Aloha

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupidest-thing-lekatt-has-said-to-date/656130/89 "2013-08-29T01:43:32Z")

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> [@hotflungwok](#):
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> I doubt that, I’ve got way to much experience at it to still be doing it wrong at this point.

Some years ago, when I was stationed overseas, I had to tell a local national employee who was peeved that I didn’t accept her substandard work, “I’m not interested in how long you’ve been doing it wrong.”

Maybe this applies here, maybe it doesn’t. Only [del]the Shadow[/del] you know[del]s[/del].

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupidest-thing-lekatt-has-said-to-date/656130/90 "2013-08-29T02:03:25Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I know the original part of the thread is old, but is lekatt’s statement really functionally different from “I can’t prove that there is or isn’t a god/gods (‘I don’t deny atheism’), but I believe there is/are,” i.e., an agnostic theist position? Or am I just giving way too much credit here?

Yes. What \*\*Czarcasm \*\*said.

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**Author:** ![jsutter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@jsutter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsutter)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupidest-thing-lekatt-has-said-to-date/656130/91 "2013-08-29T06:01:53Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Oh…well then, that is an odd position to hold if you are being visited by angels and actually talking to God.

Believing is seeing, simple as that, imho. To believe the converse is to be stuck in duality.

Aloha

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