# "Sub-zero" clothing sizes **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 17, 2006, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824 "2006-11-17T13:50:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/81 "2006-11-20T03:10:22Z")
[QUOTE=alice\_in\_wonderland] Sweetheart, I don’t even know you. How could I possibly not like you? [/quote] Oh. Maybe you’re just unpleasant in general. My bad. > [@](#): > > I think if you would like to have a discussion with **Creaky** about her eating habits out of a concern for her health, that’s a lovely thing to do - I’m just not sure that a thread about women’s clothing sizes is the best place to do it, even if it was where she brought it up. Perhaps a private e-mail conversation or something. Yeah, like you care about Creaky. She brought it up. She obviously wanted to talk about it. I don’t think she needs you to defend her, not that that’s what you’re doing. You’re just picking a fight, Aesiron’s expert opinion notwithstanding. > [@](#): > > Really dollface, get over yourself. Oh, go buy some monkey underwear or something. ---
**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/82 "2006-11-20T03:12:53Z")
Hey, learn to read. I said I -was- thin. I’ve got curves now and I get a hell of a lot more attention from guys. I didn’t start getting positive attention until I gained weight. Maybe you enjoy wearing kids shirts which tend to say things like “daddy’s little girl” and “Sweetheart” but I sure don’t. The only thing good about shopping in the kid’s section is that when you do find something that isn’t covered in sparkles, flowers, lace, or “cute” phrases is that it is considerably cheaper. If you can find anything decent that is. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/83 "2006-11-20T04:08:52Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] Oh. Maybe you’re just unpleasant in general. My bad. [/quote] I’m way ahead of you, as you’ll notice from the post above yours. > [@](#): > > Oh, go buy some monkey underwear or something. And I stalk you around the boards? Interesting. Nice to know that I’ve made such an impression on you. It’s good to have a fan. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/84 "2006-11-20T04:34:21Z")
[QUOTE=alice\_in\_wonderland] And I stalk you around the boards? Interesting. Nice to know that I’ve made such an impression on you. It’s good to have a fan. [/QUOTE] This is a total hijack, of course, but I have noticed your name as someone who is just nasty to me in threads for reasons I cannot figure out. I don’t usually pay attention to who’s who. It takes some notable aggression, and you have displayed that, or I wouldn’t know who you are. I’m glad you don’t know who I am-- that means I can’t have been as nasty to you as you have been to me. I figured you had a problem with me. You say you’re just not a nice person. OK, I can buy that. It’s not personal. I believe you. But you did take the first ad hominem shot in this thread, in your faux-defense of **Creaky** , who did fine without your “help.” Keep that in mind. Also keep in mind that this thread’s OP is about how ridiculous she thinks the sub-zero sizing is. Then, as always happens in these threads about clothing, the same 5 women come in and hijack the thread to complain about how horrible it is to be thin in this world, how much harder it is than it is to be fat, etc. It’s annoying. Try and put yourself in the OP’s place. She feels she was driven out of her own thread by your and others’ complaining. Get over YOURSELF, dollface. I think I’ve said enough about this now. Back to your regularly scheduled whining and preening and ruining the thread for the OP. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/85 "2006-11-20T04:41:44Z")
[QUOTE=Veuve\_ClicquotNJ] 1. I think it’s exceptionally rude to comment on ANYONE’s size. I’m a formerly morbid obese person; when people would ask how much I lost, I use to say “Both Olsen twins and a supermodel”. I realized one day that this was just as cruel as mocking someone for being fat, so I stopped it. \ 1. You don’t have to be an (unnatural) size 2 to be happy & fulfilled in life - clothing manufacturers nothwithstanding. [/QUOTE] I agree that it’s rude, although like I said, I don’t mind when my friends tease me about being little, since we know each other well enough to tease each other good-naturedly about many things. And I agree with your third point as well, although I’m not sure what you posted that in response to. I hope you don’t think I was insinuating that clothing size is inversely proportional to happiness. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/86 "2006-11-20T04:42:42Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] Then, as always happens in these threads about clothing, the same 5 women come in and hijack the thread to complain about how horrible it is to be thin in this world, how much harder it is than it is to be fat, etc. [/QUOTE] I don’t complain how horrible it is to be thin. I think it’s wonderful to be thin. I love that I can pick clothing up off the rack and it fits me perfectly and all except the most absurd fashions are flattering. It’s great to be able to wear clothing the way designer’s intended, and not to have things pull in unfortunatly ways, or bunch in funny places, or make my ass look like a billboard. Really, I’m not complaining at all. It’s still a drag trying to figure out what size I am though - even though I know it will be a small one. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/87 "2006-11-20T05:04:53Z")
[QUOTE=alice\_in\_wonderland] I don’t complain how horrible it is to be thin. I think it’s wonderful to be thin. I love that I can pick clothing up off the rack and it fits me perfectly and all except the most absurd fashions are flattering. It’s great to be able to wear clothing the way designer’s intended, and not to have things pull in unfortunatly ways, or bunch in funny places, or make my ass look like a billboard. Really, I’m not complaining at all. It’s still a drag trying to figure out what size I am though - even though I know it will be a small one. [/QUOTE] Gloating. It’s a very appealing behavior, one that everyone likes, will win you friends, and get you far in life. I need that barfing smiley now. Really, I’d Pit you, but you’re not worth the keystrokes. At all. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/88 "2006-11-20T05:09:40Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] Gloating. [/QUOTE] What are you talking about? You suggested that I complain about how tough it is to be thin. I was just correcting your incorrect assumption. I don’t complain about being thin - I complain that the sizing on women’s clothing is odd and tough to understand regardless of the sizes being purchased - the other posters in this thread have agreed with me, regardless of their sizes. Honestly, I think you’re projecting. However, if you want to cast me as the skinny anti-christ, I guess that’s your perogative. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/89 "2006-11-20T05:15:50Z")
[QUOTE=alice\_in\_wonderland] However, if you want to cast me as the skinny anti-christ, I guess that’s your perogative. [/QUOTE] My prerogative to cast you as what? You get up in arms in every conversation about body image I’ve ever been in, defending skinny girls’ rights and bragging about how small your ass is. I checked back to see why I thought you were so unpleasant, and that’s why. Between the bragging, which you’ve done in this thread, and the defensiveness, all over the place, it’s just annoying. Not because I’m jealous of you, which you seem to think (everyone is, darling-- you’re so hot!). Just because that one topic, harped on over and over, is predictable and distracting. But what do I care? Your need to continually talk about how thin and beautiful you are in every thread about body size and clothing size says a lot about you, but not what you think it says. So carry on. Please, carry on. You do it well. And maybe start another thread, because we are hijacking hell out of this one. and I’m sure a Mod will be in here soon to tell us both to shut up and go away. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/90 "2006-11-20T05:18:41Z")
**Ruby** , maybe you should go lay down with a cool cloth over your eyes. Seriously, I think if you were speaking instead of typing my face would be covered in your spittle droplets. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/91 "2006-11-20T06:06:25Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] My prerogative to cast you as what? You get up in arms in every conversation about body image I’ve ever been in, defending skinny girls’ rights and bragging about how small your ass is. I checked back to see why I thought you were so unpleasant, and that’s why. Between the bragging, which you’ve done in this thread, and the defensiveness, all over the place, it’s just annoying. [/QUOTE] Where has alice\_in\_wonderland bragged about her small ass in this thread? ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/92 "2006-11-20T06:07:14Z")
[QUOTE=alice\_in\_wonderland] **Ruby** , maybe you should go lay down with a cool cloth over your eyes. Seriously, I think if you were speaking instead of typing my face would be covered in your spittle droplets. [/QUOTE] Huh? Go away. I’m going to. You’re making me tired all over. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/93 "2006-11-20T06:09:18Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] Where has alice\_in\_wonderland bragged about her small ass in this thread? [/QUOTE] > [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > It’s still a drag trying to figure out what size I am though - even though I know it will be a small one. … ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/94 "2006-11-20T06:18:44Z")
How is that bragging? This thread was basically about complaining how difficult it is to find sizes that fit, because clothing brands are never consistent. **alice** simply posted a fact - that she knows she’s small, but she’s never sure exactly what size will fit her. It doesn’t seem like she’s flaunting her size in anyone’s face. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/95 "2006-11-20T06:19:53Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] Where has alice\_in\_wonderland bragged about her small ass in this thread? [/QUOTE] I don’t think **Ruby** being pissed has anything at all to do with me or the size of my ass. Furthermore, I don’t think **Ruby** being pissed has anything to do with this thread. Originally, I thought this thread was about what a pain it is to get women’s clothing because of the bizarre sizing. I have no idea what it’s about now, other than **Ruby** being pissed off at skinny girls. Sooo, yah. I’m still keen to bitch about women’s clothing sizes, but I think I may be alone in this. ---
**Author:** ![UntouchedTakeaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d78d45/32.png) [@UntouchedTakeaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UntouchedTakeaway)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/96 "2006-11-20T11:00:56Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] I agree that it’s rude, although like I said, I don’t mind when my friends tease me about being little, since we know each other well enough to tease each other good-naturedly about many things. And I agree with your third point as well, although I’m not sure what you posted that in response to. I hope you don’t think I was insinuating that clothing size is inversely proportional to happiness. [/QUOTE] Not at all - the post wasn’t directly at anyone in particular - only at the idea that you can’t get anything in life worth having unless you’re a size 2. VCNJ~ ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824/97 "2006-11-20T12:13:45Z")
Closed at the request of the OP. The hijacks killed it. **samclem** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sub-zero-clothing-sizes/380824.md?page=4)