# Submitted for your approval and derision: the cheesiest patriotic-religious mural in history! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 7, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882 "2009-10-07T02:43:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/1 "2009-10-07T02:43:32Z")
[And here it is](http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view_zoom/?artpiece_id=353#). Please enjoy. Something like an intertwined church-state WHERE’S WALDO? or perhaps a Sgt. Pepper parody done by Thomas Kinkaid. If you scrollover it tells you who the person is. Some of my favorite things about it: Abraham Lincoln is evidently singing ‘Mammy’ while John Adams and Alexander Hamilton (to his left/your right) are clearly doing a softshoe duet. Jesus is holding the U.S. Constitution. Cause he loved it, you know. All he talked about. Frederick Douglass and the Black Union Soldier are probably p.o.d at being all the way in the back (left), next to U.S. Grant (an alcoholic former slaveowner) and behind numerous other slaveowners. Little 5’3 James Madison is probably wondering how he got to be as tall as Jefferson. George Wythe behind them is probably saying “Where’s my damned grandnephew?” The Union soldier at left has evidently been maced by the dwarf doughboy next to him. Then there are the captions when you scroll over the people in the foreground. The professor with his “Origin of Species” book (how do they know it’s not the one with the new Kirk Cameron/Ray Comfort intro?) and “Mr. Hollywood” sneering at the handicapped child are my favorites. Did I mention that Jesus (that’s him in the center between [Godfearing slaveowners] Washington and Madison and in front of the peculiarly proportioned 1950s kid) is holding the Constitution? No more “render unto Caesar… cause last time I looked me boogie, Caesar’s dead… long live the U-S-F&CKIN’-A! YEEHAAAA!”) And note that it’s not a handicapped child, it’s HANDICAP CHILD. (Talk about a lame super hero… get it… lame? Heh heh…) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/2 "2009-10-07T02:50:24Z")
And why doesn’t Jesus just heal Handicap Child? Can’t be too hard, the kid’s almost in arm’s reach. And what is Fifties Kid pointing to on the Constitution? ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/3 "2009-10-07T03:22:02Z")
It’s like a Where’s Waldo… Did you find Satan yet? (Oh yes, he’s in there). And my favorite caption is the one for the immigrant. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/4 "2009-10-07T03:51:34Z")
All I see is a page of text? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![wunderkammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ed8c4c/32.png) [@wunderkammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wunderkammer)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/5 "2009-10-07T04:27:24Z")
> [@](#): > > Take the time to enjoy viewing the different images. I have written my thoughts about each piece but remember; sometimes art is the expression of feelings too subtle for words. > Jon McNaughton :smack: Mr. McNaughton is all wrong about the Professor, who bears an uncanny reference to [Mark Urness “The Furnace”](http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30752474&op=1&o=global&view=global&subj=49201825&id=49201825), the most lusted-after professor at my school. Surely he sits on the top step, not because he wants to be closer to God, but because God wishes to be closer to _him._ Lincoln’s checking him out. He has the right idea. Someone commenting at Pharyngula shared a [parody version](http://www.shortpacked.com/McNaughton%20Fine%20Art.htm) that’s considerably more honest. Check it out. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/6 "2009-10-07T04:46:36Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > And what is Fifties Kid pointing to on the Constitution? He’s not pointing to anything (hint- read the explanation about the mother to his left). He’s touching the constitution like his mother told him to. “Touch the constitution! Touch it!!” I also like Mr. Hollywood (far right, front) - he looks on at the judge and the pregnant woman with “ridicule and amusement”. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/7 "2009-10-07T04:50:32Z")
Moving thread from IMHO to MPSIMS. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/8 "2009-10-07T10:25:59Z")
Walky re-annotated this already. He may be more accurate. [http://www.shortpacked.com/McNaughton%20Fine%20Art.htm](http://www.shortpacked.com/McNaughton%20Fine%20Art.htm) ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/9 "2009-10-07T11:44:01Z")
Hey, it’s Fine Art! It says so in the name of the website. **considers moving thread to Cafe Society** **decides against it** ---
**Author:** ![Sticks\_and\_Scones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sticks_and_scones/32/16951_2.png) [@Sticks\_and\_Scones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sticks_and_Scones)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/10 "2009-10-07T11:51:27Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Abraham Lincoln is evidently singing ‘Mammy’ while John Adams and Alexander Hamilton (to his left/your right) are clearly doing a softshoe duet. I cannot stop laughing at this! :p:D ---
**Author:** ![gwendee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@gwendee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gwendee)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/11 "2009-10-07T13:31:11Z")
Ignorance fought: Until today I was not aware that Nathan Hale looked like Don Johnson. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/12 "2009-10-07T14:56:23Z")
How exactly is the HANDICAPPED CHILD handicapped? ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/13 "2009-10-07T15:23:10Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > How exactly is the HANDICAPPED CHILD handicapped? Maybe he needs a three shot handicap in golf. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/14 "2009-10-07T15:32:50Z")
Oh, good thing Jesus moonlights as a golf pro then. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/15 "2009-10-07T15:44:13Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > How exactly is the HANDICAPPED CHILD handicapped? Republican mother. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/16 "2009-10-07T16:05:21Z")
I just noticed that Harriet Tubman is also in the back of the [del]bus[/del] painting. You’d think she’d find a way to escape. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/17 "2009-10-07T16:09:09Z")
The immigrant caption leaves me speechless. Did he even read what he wrote? My other favorite is the “50 stars” caption. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/18 "2009-10-07T16:10:45Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > All I see is a page of text? 😕 ## Try it again. I think it was offline for a while last night. From time to time there are “What exactly is ‘camp’?” threads. There are several answers- you _can_ intentionally make camp (the _Naked Gun_ movies for example), but the best ‘camp’ is failed earnesty (Reefer Madness, Dragnet). This picture is an excellent example of unintentional/highest camp. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/19 "2009-10-07T16:21:23Z")
I like how there’s no explanitory text for “Business Woman.” She’s there, but the artist has nothing to say about her. He also has nothing to say about Satan (far right, behind Mr. Hollywood). Nathan Hale looks like Han Solo. ---
**Author:** ![Jettboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@Jettboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jettboy)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/20 "2009-10-07T16:31:39Z")
It took for-freaking-ever to get the thing to load. Now that I’ve seen it, all I can say is…wow. That’s just…wow. I just don’t have the vocabulary… This abomination is a giant black hole that sucks art in and destroys it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882.md?page=2)