# Submitted for your approval and derision: the cheesiest patriotic-religious mural in history! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 7, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882 "2009-10-07T02:43:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/101 "2009-10-10T01:45:57Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > I’m worried. The Professor looks like… me. > > Edit: but if it _were_ me, the book would be Dawkins’ _The Selfish Gene_. 😃 Are you sitting on the top step you smug bastard? I’ll bet you are! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/102 "2009-10-10T01:47:26Z")
[QUOTE=astro] [QUOTE=Death of Rats] How exactly is the HANDICAPPED CHILD handicapped? [/QUOTE] Look carefully he has no fingers, only a flipper like palm with stubs, and more than likely he has no toes. [/QUOTE] but is that his handicap, or the artist’s? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/103 "2009-10-10T03:18:38Z")
Bill Maher showed this portrait on his show tonight with some very funny, if unflattering, comments. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/104 "2009-10-10T17:39:52Z")
> [@astro](#): > > He says he can’t paint a picture with Martin Luther King Jr. in it as a figure because of “copyright issues”. What? Since Martin Luther King dot Org is a site owned and maintained by a white supremacist organization and it’s perfectly legal I’d have to ask the artist for a cite on this one. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn1767](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shawn1767](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shawn1767)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/105 "2009-10-10T18:19:25Z")
Anybody else getting a “Chick Tract” vibe from it? ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/106 "2009-10-10T20:09:52Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Since Martin Luther King dot Org is a site owned and maintained by a white supremacist organization and it’s perfectly legal I’d have to ask the artist for a cite on this one. I think [this](http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/22/monumental-shakedown-cashing-in-on-martin-luther-king-jr/) might shed some light on the matter. > [@](#): > > The King family has long been criticized for insisting on payment for the use of their father’s name, image, speeches and virtually anything that they can claim for themselves or their foundation. The family reached a new low this week when it was revealed that they had been paid more than $800,000 by the Martin Luther King Jr. National Memorial Project Foundation for the use of King’s image and words on the planned King memorial on Washington’s Mall. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/107 "2009-10-10T20:11:28Z")
> [@cjepson](#): > > Does this have anything to do with the White Tree? That’s all I can come up with. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/108 "2009-10-10T20:14:27Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#): > > Hey, I’m not seeing any Jews The guy with the red sash is Jewish. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/109 "2009-10-11T02:02:03Z")
> [@](#): > > Nutbaggery aside, I wonder why each war gets its own soldier except WWII, Korea, and Vietnam, which have to share one? My question is why all those soldiers and a F16 pilot (presumedly Air Force) but no members of the Navy or Marine Corps? ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/110 "2009-10-11T02:13:15Z")
There’s a Marine. **carnivorous** –too funny! ---
**Author:** ![Gestalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@Gestalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gestalt)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/111 "2009-10-11T02:35:22Z")
This guy’s website is funny. Among other things, he lashes out at “progressive” and “modern” art movements, and considers himself an impressionist of some obscure French school of painting from the 19th century. I also found this gem, which is not quite as good as the one in the OP, but will do in a pinch: [http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view\_zoom/?artpiece\_id=319#](http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view_zoom/?artpiece_id=319#). It’s basically a mish-mash of soldiers from _every period in history, ever_ (including but not limited to “viking” and “female Israeli”) bowing down before Jesus. My favorite little bit of ethnocentrism is in the fact that the arab and palestenian are depicted as soldiers in what I understand to be everyday garb, while most of the others are in fancy warrior uniform of some kind. Good times. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/112 "2009-10-11T02:41:57Z")
How come the Confederate soldier looks like a homey? Even his cap is askew. 😕 This guy is a piece of work. I really like the blurbs under the pics, too. If only Rembrandt or Matisse had had this kind of PR… ---
**Author:** ![Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/13edae/32.png) [@Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interconnected_Series_of_Tubes)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/113 "2009-10-11T03:06:39Z")
> [@Gestalt](#): > > I also found this gem, which is not quite as good as the one in the OP, but will do in a pinch: [http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view\_zoom/?artpiece\_id=319#](http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view_zoom/?artpiece_id=319#). It’s basically a mish-mash of soldiers from _every period in history, ever_ (including but not limited to “viking” and “female Israeli”) bowing down before Jesus. I love how the Nazi is all D: at the sight of Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/114 "2009-10-11T03:27:24Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > My question is why all those soldiers and a F16 pilot (presumedly Air Force) but no members of the Navy or Marine Corps? Obviously because the Navy is all about Sodomy, alcoholism, and S&M or some such.😉 My theory as to why an F-16 pilot is because, deep down, fighter pilots are closest to God, at least according to this guy’s painting. Also, the Modern Soldier’s rank insignia is wrong. There is no rank with two chevrons and one rocker. Surprisingly enough, he did know which way the American flag points on the Army uniform, though I doubt that he knows why. The Professor tries to put himself at the same level of Christ by sitting on the top step, yet there is no problem with everybody else in the room _standing_ on that step literally at the same level with Jesus? And of course some stars shine more brightly than others. Texas is presumably the brightest one and Oklahoma the dimmest. Not for any religious reason, but just because Oklahoma is a black hole from which it is difficult to escape. And I’ve never in my entire life heard anything about the folded flag representing “In God We Trust”, be it from George Washington or otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/115 "2009-10-11T03:43:11Z")
Eh…needs more [polar bears](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANpnPSlwm1M). ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/116 "2009-10-11T03:59:37Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > Not for any religious reason, but just because Oklahoma is a black hole from which it is difficult to escape. Nah, then my beloved Arkansas would be 47th at everything, instead of 48th behind Mississippi and West Virginia. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/117 "2009-10-11T04:42:15Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > My theory as to why an F-16 pilot is because, deep down, fighter pilots are closest to God, at least according to this guy’s painting. What’s the difference between God and a fighter pilot? God doesn’t think He is a pilot. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/118 "2009-10-11T04:48:40Z")
> [@Gestalt](#): > > This guy’s website is funny. Among other things, he lashes out at “progressive” and “modern” art movements, and considers himself an impressionist of some obscure French school of painting from the 19th century. Guess he’s not a Warhol fan then. > [@](#): > > I also found this gem, which is not quite as good as the one in the OP, but will do in a pinch: [http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view\_zoom/?artpiece\_id=319#](http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view_zoom/?artpiece_id=319#). It’s basically a mish-mash of soldiers from _every period in history, ever_ (including but not limited to “viking” and “female Israeli”) bowing down before Jesus. My favorite little bit of ethnocentrism is in the fact that the arab and palestenian are depicted as soldiers in what I understand to be everyday garb, while most of the others are in fancy warrior uniform of some kind. Good times. Oh god, the guy from Vietnam is wearing his “O” face! Well, either that or he’s singing show tunes. (Reads “About the Artist”) Wait…aren’t Barbizon schools for modeling? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/119 "2009-10-11T05:52:06Z")
This guy is the Thomas Kincade of Jebuses. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882/120 "2009-10-11T05:54:14Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > What’s the difference between God and a fighter pilot? … God can pull more g’s, plus god’s bombs are _really_ smart. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/submitted-for-your-approval-and-derision-the-cheesiest-patriotic-religious-mural-in-history/512882.md?page=7)