# Subtle signs that someone is deviant **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 13, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203 "2011-09-13T21:15:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Diamonds02](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Diamonds02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diamonds02)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/1 "2011-09-13T21:15:22Z")
There’s hardcore deviant vibes…and there’s a more subtle deviant vibes. I’m sure you’ve been around people who give off some sort of vibe that they are a little less conventionally moral than the rest of the population. What I notice… -People who have tinted car windows, no matter how conventional the car. -People who give half-sided smiles. -Just about anyone I see up and awake 3am on a week day, and it doesn’t appear to be work related. -This is a big one. Men who hit on me, when I look terrible. No make-up, hat on, sweats, etc. What are signs that you notice? ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/2 "2011-09-13T21:16:40Z")
Why are you awake at 3 am ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/3 "2011-09-13T21:17:30Z")
> [@PSXer](#): > > Why are you awake at 3 am /thread ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/4 "2011-09-13T21:29:09Z")
You kidding? Tinted car windows serve a purpose, they block the sun from super heating the interior of the car. Being awake at 3AM isn’t something you’ll see someone for unless it is work related usually. They’re probably awake at that time (why are you awake at that time by the way?) because they do have a job that requires them be awake at three in the morning and they’re just not scheduled to work that morning. Or they’re scheduled for somewhere at about four or five in the morning and are making a quick run somewhere that’s open. You can be, believe it or not, beautiful and attractive without make-up or “dress” clothes. Shocking I know! O\_O ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/5 "2011-09-13T21:30:18Z")
You kidding? Tinted car windows serve a purpose, they block the sun from super heating the interior of the car. Being awake at 3AM isn’t something you’ll see someone for unless it is work related usually. They’re probably awake at that time (why are you awake at that time by the way?) because they do have a job that requires them be awake at three in the morning and they’re just not scheduled to work that morning. Or they’re scheduled for somewhere at about four or five in the morning and are making a quick run somewhere that’s open. You can be, believe it or not, beautiful and attractive without make-up or “dress” clothes. Shocking I know! O\_O ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/6 "2011-09-13T21:33:11Z")
The other day I saw a guy dip his french fries in ranch. gross. totally deviant behavior ---
**Author:** ![Claire\_Beauchamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@Claire\_Beauchamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claire_Beauchamp)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/7 "2011-09-13T21:36:32Z")
Judgmental much? What possible basis do you have for picking out one benign characteristic / behavior of a complete stranger and extrapolating that to “not conventionally moral” and “deviant?” ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/8 "2011-09-13T21:39:44Z")
The one about guys who hit on girls when they look “terrible” reminds me of a blog post I read on Jezebel. The writer was really huffy about it, too. You’d think it would be an affirmation but she was really mad about it. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/9 "2011-09-13T21:46:52Z")
Please define “deviant”. ('cause I think I might be one?) ---
**Author:** ![TheChileanBlob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thechileanblob/32/435_2.png) [@TheChileanBlob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheChileanBlob)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/10 "2011-09-13T22:11:53Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > Please define “deviant”. Deviant=you are different from me. Weirdo. ---
**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/11 "2011-09-13T22:17:06Z")
This thread looks like fun, I’m making waffles. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/12 "2011-09-13T22:26:32Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > Please define “deviant”. > > ('cause I think I might be one?) I should just post a pic of myself, and be done with it… ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/13 "2011-09-13T22:33:05Z")
A good sign for me is when they try to fuck my dog. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/14 "2011-09-13T23:12:09Z")
> [@Diamonds02](#): > > -Just about anyone I see up and awake 3am on a week day, and it doesn’t appear to be work related. Insomnia is “deviant”? > [@Diamonds02](#): > > This is a big one. Men who hit on me, when I look terrible. No make-up, hat on, sweats, etc. What you think of as “terrible”, a lot of men will think of as “cute” or “adorably disheveled”. Just think of all the action movies where the woman ends up sweaty and with ripped up clothes. And why is finding you attractive while wearing a _hat_ weird? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/15 "2011-09-13T23:15:28Z")
Pretty much everyone in North America is deviant according to the Ayatollahs of Iran. What or who are you using as a reference again? ---
**Author:** ![Yarster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/7c8e57/32.png) [@Yarster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yarster)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/16 "2011-09-13T23:28:26Z")
I can think of a few. 1. A younger male (18-30) who is twitchy and whose eyes move around too much. Sure, he could be in a hurry, and have to get home to his wife and sick child, but my brain instantly says “meth head”. 2. Any person whose physical appearance and/or clothing is unusual for a setting. In my world, that includes something as bland as the overly muscular guy with tattoos wih a serious look, who is advertising “Hey, I just got out of prison and I’m looking to start a fight”, or the guy who is wearing sunglasses and Raiders team paraphernalia at night. He’s advertising “I’m thinking about robbing this Taco Bell”. And yes, in my mind, Vin Diesel is going to start a fight AND rob the Taco Bell… 3. Anyone with a neck, face, or head tattoo in general. 4. People who drive cars with way too much money spent on the suspension, either to lower it (gang member) or raise it (gun toting red-neck). ---
**Author:** ![Sudden\_Kestrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Sudden\_Kestrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sudden_Kestrel)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/17 "2011-09-13T23:34:14Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > A good sign for me is when they try to fuck my dog. This is usually the _first_ sign. **Diamonds02** , if you think keeping something other than banker’s hours is a sign of deviance, you’re going to miss out on a lot of really interesting people. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/18 "2011-09-13T23:35:07Z")
They listen to Pop music. They call soft drinks Pop. They refer to their father as Pop. They Pop their knuckles. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/19 "2011-09-13T23:40:41Z")
> [@Diamonds02](#): > > -People who give half-sided smiles. I never, EVER, do an American-style “expose the gnashers” tooth-smile. I find they look insincere and forced. So, in the end, if I find something very funny, you’ll probably get a giggle and a smile with both sides of the mouth raised from me. Less funny, you’ll get one side. So I guess I’m a deviant then. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/20 "2011-09-13T23:51:59Z")
My fake smiles are both-sided. My real smiles are left-sided. I guess I’m deviant. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203.md?page=2)