# Subtle signs that someone is deviant **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 13, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203 "2011-09-13T21:15:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/21 "2011-09-13T23:53:32Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > The one about guys who hit on girls when they look “terrible” reminds me of a blog post I read on Jezebel. The writer was really huffy about it, too. You’d think it would be an affirmation but she was really mad about it. You’d think, but I have a theory that basically states guys who do this are total scumbags. I know it. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/22 "2011-09-13T23:53:52Z")
I live in a place where the sun is 12 feet from the earth, and so I always get my car windows tinted if they come without tinting, because I hate the sun. I guess I’m a deviant. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/23 "2011-09-14T00:04:44Z")
> [@Diamonds02](#): > > This is a big one. Men who hit on me, when I look terrible. No make-up, hat on, sweats, etc. Umm, why? You think you’re ugly if you’re not all dolled-up for work or a night on the town? ---
**Author:** ![Diamonds02](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Diamonds02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diamonds02)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/24 "2011-09-14T00:11:38Z")
When I say awake at 3am, I mean out and about, not in their house. I work overnight, and am vaguely creeped out by anyone I see who doesn’t appear they coming from work, going to work, or coming home from a bar. Tinted windows: Can block sun rays, and…can hide a kidnapped kid, a naked prostitute with duct tape across her mouth in the backseat, someone doing a line of coke on the arm rest, a man jacking off to amputee porn. Also, it can hide the race, gender, and general appearance of the driver and passengers. I understand that women can be cute when they aren’t made up. But, the reason why I find men creepy when they hit on women dressed really down, is that such women do it on purpose NOT to attract attention from men. It’s a social cue. It’s vaguely creepy when men don’t pick up on it, or just seem not to care. Futhermore, I’m a butch lesbian that looks like a 14 year old boy. Some more… -People who wander around aimlessly in stores and malls, without any obvious purpose. -People who wander the neighborhood who aren’t walking dogs or aren’t exercising. There’s no bus stops anywhere by, so it’s not likely they’re catching a bus. -People who won’t use facebook, texts, or emails or any other form of electronic communication. And people who don’t have CELL PHONES, but could afford them. This thread is supposed to be fun in nature, and is supposed to be about vague and subtle things that make you uneasy. There are things that people do or have that seem innocuous on surface, but if you think more about it, your imagination run away with you. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/25 "2011-09-14T00:12:23Z")
> [@Diamonds02](#): > > -This is a big one. Men who hit on me, when I look terrible. No make-up, hat on, sweats, etc. Self-esteem/body image issues ?.. That’s hot. (D&R) ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/26 "2011-09-14T00:15:13Z")
> [@Diamonds02](#): > > -This is a big one. Men who hit on me, when I look terrible. No make-up, hat on, sweats, etc. Doesn’t this indicate that they are more likely to have been turned on by your personality? Can someone outline the flow of logic that suggests that hitting on poorly dressed women is deviant? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/27 "2011-09-14T00:18:01Z")
> [@Claire\_Beauchamp](#): > > Judgmental much? > > What possible basis do you have for picking out one benign characteristic / behavior of a complete stranger and extrapolating that to “not conventionally moral” and “deviant?” Experience at being picked up at 3 a.m. by men in cars with tinted windows? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/28 "2011-09-14T00:20:50Z")
> [@Diamonds02](#): > > I understand that women can be cute when they aren’t made up. But, the reason why I find men creepy when they hit on women dressed really down, is that such women do it on purpose NOT to attract attention from men. It’s a social cue. It’s vaguely creepy when men don’t pick up on it, or just seem not to care. Futhermore, I’m a butch lesbian that looks like a 14 year old boy. How do you know why other women are dressing as they do? They could just do it because they like it. Some days I’m too lazy to put on make up or look as nice as I could but I’m not doing it on purpose to deflect attention. Some women may be, but we’re not exactly a hive mind. ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/29 "2011-09-14T00:20:55Z")
Then should we all live in glass houses? Because walls can hide someone jacking off to porn. ---
**Author:** ![llcoolbj77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@llcoolbj77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/llcoolbj77)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/30 "2011-09-14T00:26:56Z")
Close talkers. Ugh!!! Super creepy. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/31 "2011-09-14T00:27:21Z")
So, people who are out and about at three in the morning are okay, so long as they’re drunk? ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/32 "2011-09-14T00:29:43Z")
> [@PSXer](#): > > Then should we all live in glass houses? Because walls can hide someone jacking off to porn. Exactly what I was going to say. Everything you said about cars with tinted windows applies to houses (and most buildings, really). Why you assume your list would be a reason for getting tinted windows rather than keeping the sun/heat out is bizarre, frankly. FTR, I don’t have tinted windows on my car. ---
**Author:** ![Marconi\_N.Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Marconi\_N.Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marconi_N.Cheese)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/33 "2011-09-14T00:37:32Z")
Here’s the problem: True deviants don’t want to be noticed, you’d never suspect them if you saw them. Until it’s too late, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/34 "2011-09-14T00:45:38Z")
> [@Diamonds02](#): > > Tinted windows: Can block sun rays, and…can hide a kidnapped kid, a naked prostitute with duct tape across her mouth in the backseat, someone doing a line of coke on the arm rest, a man jacking off to amputee porn. Also, it can hide the race, gender, and general appearance of the driver and passengers. Baseball bats can be used to play baseball, and…can be used to intimidate innocent pedestrials, knock mailboxes off of their posts, break windows for vandalism or robbery purposes, destroy surveillance cameras that might catch criminal activity, and break the legs of people who aren’t paying the proper “protection” money. And yet, if I see tinted windows on a car – much like if I saw a baseball bat on a baseball field – my first assumption is going to be that they are serving their primary and very legitimate purpose. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/35 "2011-09-14T00:47:56Z")
I have tinted windows only on the left side of my car. I figure anyone trying to look in from that side must have some evil intent. Right side lookers in are fine. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/36 "2011-09-14T00:49:23Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > So, people who are out and about at three in the morning are okay, so long as they’re drunk? Correct. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/37 "2011-09-14T00:56:56Z")
> [@Diamonds02](#): > > I understand that women can be cute when they aren’t made up. But, the reason why I find men creepy when they hit on women dressed really down, is that such women do it on purpose NOT to attract attention from men. It’s a social cue. It’s vaguely creepy when men don’t pick up on it, or just seem not to care. You speak for all women? > [@](#): > > Futhermore, I’m a butch lesbian that looks like a 14 year old boy. Ah, I see, you’re speaking for butch lesbians that look like 14-year-old boys who wouldn’t care for men hitting on them even when they aren’t dressed down. Frankly, my type of woman is long, lean, small-breasted, and small-hipped. Unless you’re wearing a sign that says “butch lesbian” it’s perfectly possible that I might express some interest. > [@](#): > > -People who wander around aimlessly in stores and malls, without any obvious purpose. > > -People who wander the neighborhood who aren’t walking dogs or aren’t exercising. There’s no bus stops anywhere by, so it’s not likely they’re catching a bus. OK, you’re just weird. > [@](#): > > This thread is supposed to be fun in nature, and is supposed to be about vague and subtle things that make you uneasy. You expect that talking about perfectly normal things that make you uneasy is fun? You are weird. ---
**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/38 "2011-09-14T00:57:23Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > I have tinted windows only on the left side of my car. I figure anyone trying to look in from that side must have some evil intent. Right side lookers in are fine. One might even say . . . SINISTER intent! – A heraldry joke. Because I’m that fucking topical. The boar is on special tonight, don’t forget to tip your serving wench, the garderobe is next to the gatehouse. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/39 "2011-09-14T01:02:01Z")
> [@Diamonds02](#): > > Tinted windows: Can block sun rays, and…can hide a kidnapped kid, a naked prostitute with duct tape across her mouth in the backseat, someone doing a line of coke on the arm rest, a man jacking off to amputee porn. Well, what’s the alternative? Airing your dirty laundry in public is even grosser, man. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-signs-that-someone-is-deviant/596203/40 "2011-09-14T01:05:31Z")
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