# Subway--"We've never carried that" is not the same as we no longer carry that. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 30, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450 "2005-01-30T17:41:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2005, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/21 "2005-01-31T19:19:49Z")
Those of you who say, “Jeepers, how can you expect a poor little minimum wage worker to know such things?”, kind of missed the point. It’s not that she didn’t _know_, it’s that she LIED and pretended she _did_ know. If you don’t know, then SAY SO for fuck’s sake. ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2005, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/22 "2005-01-31T19:37:01Z")
> [@Antigen](#): > > It’s not just fast food, either. I went to a bath-products store looking for a new bottle of my favorite-smelling shower gel, and the girl told me I must have the wrong store because they’ve _never_ carried _anything_ even _close_ to that scent. I couldn’t seem to convince her otherwise, and I began to doubt my sanity. Nope, it’s not just fast food, and it’s not just retail. And, astro, it’s not just minimum wage workers, either. These people all share the same damaged gene, the same mutation within the strings of A’s, T’s, & G’s. If I could only isolate it and test for it, I’d volunteer to cull them from the herd. You will find it among six-figure salaried PhD’s at the same rate of occurrence as any burger flipper. While some people enjoy pulling inaccurate information out of their asses, only these unique individuals can stretch that inaccuracy into an unbounded, unconditional universal law without caveat or corollary. ---
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2005, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/23 "2005-01-31T20:23:31Z")
> [@Hilarity N. Suze](#): > > “Oh, we never had that. For that you have to go to [someplace else].” This is real good customer service, telling me to go somewhere else. What if you hadn’t found the one remaining can of mousse? Wouldn’t you have been happy that you knew where to go to find one? I work at Blockbuster, and our store is smaller than the typical location, so we are often found lacking when people come in asking for something specific. When I tell people where to go to find the obscure foreign film, children’s movie from France or silver-screen classic they’re looking for, they’re noticeably more grateful than the customers who just get; “We don’t have that, I’m sorry.” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/24 "2005-01-31T20:35:53Z")
> [@ethanwinfield](#): > > I just have a hard time understanding why people choose to work at the fast food establishment that they themselves have never eaten at. You would think they would be even remotely familar with the menu from having once been a customer. If I had to take a job in food service, I would never take a job at a restaurant I liked, because I know I will never be able to eat there again after working there for even a short time. Food service is completely different from dry-goods retail, where you get discounts on stuff you like and don’t have to make yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/25 "2005-01-31T20:44:29Z")
> [@tripthicket](#): > > These are not the white flour tortillas you are looking for. The first rule of white flour tortillas is: don’t talk about white flour tortillas. ---
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2005, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/26 "2005-01-31T20:46:35Z")
> [@](#): > > Feel free to lie to me! Tell me a month or so ago. I just have a hard time understanding why people choose to work at the fast food establishment that they themselves have never eaten at. You would think they would be even remotely familar with the menu from having once been a customer. Maybe they are trying to make themselves look more knowledgeable by claiming they know what has NEVER been on the menu. This has the opposite effect–it makes them look less knowledgeable. I have a job at Subway, as a “sandwich artist” :rolleyes: , despite me never having eaten there before I started work. Why? a) The job is local, and they were the only employers located near to my flat which didn’t require reams of paper work just to apply for a weekend job. b) The food is ridiculously overpriced. £2.89 for a 6 inch sandwich is daylight robbery, considering the abject lack of skill and time needed to make it. c) The food tastes like absolute shit. I’ve only been employed since before Christmas yet I’ve been working at my particluar store, and I’m the only native English (non-managerial) speaker (which makes for some amusing scenes with drunk Scots and foreign staff). ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/27 "2005-01-31T21:30:20Z")
> [@blowero](#): > > Those of you who say, “Jeepers, how can you expect a poor little minimum wage worker to know such things?”, kind of missed the point. It’s not that she didn’t _know_, it’s that she LIED and pretended she _did_ know. If you don’t know, then SAY SO for fuck’s sake. Yeah, but you have to balance that against the moron customers who will just keep asking questions even after you’ve said that you don’t know the answer. It may be easier to just make something up. Even if the customer then decides you’re full of it, they’ll at least stop asking questions. ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2005, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/28 "2005-01-31T21:58:54Z")
> [@iamthewalrus(:3=](#): > > Yeah, but you have to balance that against the moron customers who will just keep asking questions even after you’ve said that you don’t know the answer. It may be easier to just make something up. Even if the customer then decides you’re full of it, they’ll at least stop asking questions. Yeah, I see your point. I’m remembering my own pit thread about clients who keep asking questions that I don’t know the answer to, and how _utterly livid_ other dopers got at the idea of my saying “I don’t know” to a client. Judging from how flummoxed people were getting in my thread, it would seem that to many people, “I don’t know” is tantamount to saying “Fuck you.” ---
**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2005, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/29 "2005-01-31T22:47:03Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Ah, the BMT syndrome. > > Before My Time. Obviously nothing of importance happens Before My Time. Gee, in a Subway thread? {useless trivia} You may not be aware of it, but much of the NYC subway system was privately built. 3 companies later were bought out. Some stations still show the initials of various lines, known also by the companies that made them. The 3 companies? IRT (Interborough), IND (Independent) and Brooklyn-Manhattan Transport - AKA BMT… {/useless trivia} I prefer BLTs, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/30 "2005-02-01T00:01:08Z")
I frequently worry about the non-official status of oregano at Subway. Often (but not always) if you ask, they will sprinkle some oregano on your BMT. But you have to be **in the know**. What can’t there be a small sign that says “Oregano On Request”? Why, oh why must I endure this gnawing fear that one day I will walk into a Subway and be told “We have _never_ carried oregano. What’s that, some kind of olive?” :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/31 "2005-02-01T00:13:26Z")
Hmmm… I’ve seen this before, in retail as described above and other places too; I used to work on a team carrying out stocktakes and audits in duty-free stores - one of the items on our checklist was to make sure we looked inside the safe for any high-value items such as high-end watches and jewellery that might be stored there. The conversation nearly always went like this: Me: Could you open the safe for me please? Store Manager: There’s nothing in the safe Me: All the same, I need to check if there’s any stock in there SM: I can tell you there isn’t Me: Yeah, but I have to _physically check_ - you know, sometimes there are high-value items in there for security, you know, watches and stuff… SM: No, we keep all that stuff in the high-value cupboard under lock and key Me: Would you just open the safe for me please, so I can tick this little box on my form? SM: \ Okay than, but I’m telling you, there are never any watches in the safe… \ …_except these ones here_. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/32 "2005-02-01T00:21:54Z")
> [@blowero](#): > > Those of you who say, “Jeepers, how can you expect a poor little minimum wage worker to know such things?”, kind of missed the point. It’s not that she didn’t _know_, it’s that she LIED and pretended she _did_ know. If you don’t know, then SAY SO for fuck’s sake. I think the real point here is shitty customer service. The event taking place was a sandwich transaction, the history of the menu had no bearing. Thus, if some dildo of a customer insisted on asking when a product was discontinued, the “sandwich artist” should have simply said “gosh, I don’t know. If you’ll look at our current menu, I’ll be happy to make you the closest sandwich to the one you want.” It saddens my heart to think how much drama is caused by nothing more than the daily collision of twits. ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/33 "2005-02-01T18:55:37Z")
> [@NattoGuy](#): > > I think the real point here is shitty customer service. The event taking place was a sandwich transaction, the history of the menu had no bearing. Thus, if some dildo of a customer insisted on asking when a product was discontinued, the “sandwich artist” should have simply said “gosh, I don’t know. If you’ll look at our current menu, I’ll be happy to make you the closest sandwich to the one you want.” Really? You think the OP was being a dildo? If I frequent a place, and they stop doing something I like, I will sometimes nonchalantly inquire as to when or why they stopped doing it. Doesn’t seem like an unreasonable question. I’d like to think that if enough customers bothered to mention that they _did_ notice when the place switched from aged cheddar to cheez whiz, or from gourmet coffee to Farmer Bros., that the management might consider changing back to the way things were. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/34 "2005-02-01T21:05:17Z")
> [@ethanwinfield](#): > > Feel free to lie to me! Tell me a month or so ago. I just have a hard time understanding why people choose to work at the fast food establishment that they themselves have never eaten at. You would think they would be even remotely familar with the menu from having once been a customer. I think you misunderstand the lifestyle of a fast food worker. It’s not like “Yes! I got a job at Taco Bell! Now it’ll be chalupas every day, Baby!” It’s more like “Yes! I got a job! Now I can pay rent! I can’t believe I have to squirt guacamole out of a caulking gun!” Maybe she’s relatively new. After a month or so on the job you may think you have a better understanding of the job than you actually do. Maybe you are mixing up your fast food experiences and remembering something thats not there. Maybe just the single franchise near your house carried them because they were cheating and buying flour tortillas from Costco. Maybe you were always getting low carb tortillas and didn’t notice until they changed to brown ones. Maybe she’s from another store where they genuinely didn’t have flour tortillas, and they were just test marketing them where you are or something. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/35 "2005-02-06T11:48:35Z")
I went through something like this with my high school BF, Steve the Idiot. The year was 1987 (this is relevant). Steve the Idiot asked what I wanted for my birthday. I asked if he could find me a copy of the album _Beatles for Sale_. My friend’s mom had a copy, and we’d been listening to it, but the mom wouldn’t let me borrow it to make a copy, and their stereo wasn’t set up to make cassette copies. The reason it was so precious to my friend’s mom, you see, was that it was an import: never released in the US, and back in 1965, she’d ordered it and waited months (I think) for it to be shipped from the UK. I explained all this to StI. “It’s an import. It was never released in the US. You’d have to go to a used record store. It might cost a lot, so I’d understand if you can’t get it for me; you could get me _The Joshua Tree_ instead.” He toddled off to Sam Goody’s, looked it up in the catalog, and came back to inform me, “There’s no such album…Are you sure you didn’t mean _A Hard Day’s Night_ or _Meet the Beatles_?..Well, the girl told me she’d never heard of it…No, I looked it up in the catalog. It. Doesn’t. Exist.” :mad: At which point, I really wanted to grab him and shake him and pound his dumb head against the wall while shouting, “It does too fucking exist! I told you it was an **import**!! You are not going to find it at Sam fucking Goody’s! Do you ever listen to me at all?!” But that would definitely have broken us up, and then I wouldn’t have had a date for the prom. Instead, I reintroduced the idea of a used record store, which to him meant the Salvation Army, and I ended up getting _The Joshua Tree_ after all. And we broke up at the end of the school year, and the year after that, _Beatles for Sale_ was rereleased on CD. (BTW, this is the same guy who was convinced that there was no use investing in CDs because something called “laser rot” would cause them to deteriorate within five years.) ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/36 "2005-02-06T15:27:54Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > The year was 1987 (this is relevant). […] > > And we broke up at the end of the school year, and the year after that, _Beatles for Sale_ was rereleased on CD. [Beatle-nerd] The first four Beatles CDs, including _Beatles for Sale_, were released in February 1987; your story must take place in 1986. [/Beatle-nerd] ---
**Author:** ![ethanwinfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/96bed5/32.png) [@ethanwinfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ethanwinfield)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/37 "2005-02-06T15:51:22Z")
> [@Biffy the Elephant Shrew](#): > > [Beatle-nerd] > The first four Beatles CDs, including _Beatles for Sale_, were released in February 1987; your story must take place in 1986. > [/Beatle-nerd] The release date I found for _Beatles for sale_ was July 27, 1987. _The Joshua Tree_ was released in March 1987. So maybe the story took place in early 1987. Or maybe I just have the wrong release dates. ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/38 "2005-02-06T15:55:46Z")
Well, I wait tables, and when presented with this situation, I’ll lie, too…in the other direction. Many a time have I made up an exact date when we “stopped having” something I know perfectly well we have never carried. You’d be truly amazed how often this situation arose at my old job. Me: What would you like to drink? Customer: I’ll have Raspberry tea. Me: I’m sorry, we don’t have Raspberry tea, would you like sweet tea instead? Customer: No no, I want that Raspberry tea. I’ve had it here before. _No, you haven’t. I have worked here since the very day we opened, and we do not now, nor have we ever, carried Raspberry tea. You are thinking of our pseudo-sister-restaurant in the next city, which, among other differences, is fast-food rather than full-service, and has a slightly different menu that includes Raspberry tea. I will, however, be unable to convince you of that, because you’ll either ignore everything I say, or else realize you’re wrong but continue to insist that you’re right in order to “save face”._ Me: Yeah, we stopped carrying it in April; our supplier raised the price of the flavored teas by like 50%. Sorry about that. Customer: Oh, that’s okay. I’ll just have sweet tea. It’s even more fun at my current restaurant. First of all, it’s a steakhouse, in a town with (counting them off the top of my head) at least fourteen of them. Second, we’re Texas Steakhouse, and there are a few Texas Roadhouses (an unrelated chain) in the surrounding area. People get the different menus confused. Generally, there’ll be something on our menu that corresponds to the other place’s items (the names of which I know fairly well from experience), and if so, I’ll give the customer the equivalent without comment; the most frequent, and simplest, case of this involves people ordering the “Bloomin’ Onion” as an appetizer. If not, though – for example, if somebody wants mashed potatoes as their side dish – then I settle in and prepare to lie. Me: …and for your side dish? Customer: Mashed Potatoes. Me: I’m sorry, we don’t have mashed potatoes; our side dishes are [blah]. Customer: But I had mashed potatoes here last month. Me: …yes, we changed our menu a couple weeks back. See, this [points to Marshall Dillon, a signature ribeye we’ve always had] is new, and we got rid of the mashed potatoes. Sorry about that. Customer: Oh, that’s all right, I’ll have a baked potato. I learned a long time ago that getting confrontational with the customers – whether I’m sure of my correctness or not – is simply never beneficial to anyone involved. The absolute best result you can hope for in a situation like that is that, after wasting ten minutes of each other’s time and getting both of you all pissed off, the customer is educated about one largely irrelevant fact about your restaurant. That anyone would engage in a customer/server debate in a situation where they’re actually _wrong_ is just mind-boggling to me. I want to pay a visit to the clerks and servers in the above anecdotes, smack them in the head, and give them a little lesson about A) principles of service and B) prudent concession of irrelevant moral “victories” in the name of efficiency. Even if you think you’re right, you’re wrong. Deal. Meanwhile, I’ll keep doing my part by telling bold-faced brazen lies to my customers as the need arises. And hey, no thanks necessary. It’s all part of the service. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/39 "2005-02-06T17:39:44Z")
> [@ethanwinfield](#): > > The release date I found for _Beatles for sale_ was July 27, 1987. _The Joshua Tree_ was released in March 1987. So maybe the story took place in early 1987. Or maybe I just have the wrong release dates. Hmm. That date for _Beatles for Sale_ is wrong–the Beatles reissue program was timed so that they’d be up to _Sgt Pepper_ in time for the “20 years ago today” anniversary of its American release on June 2, 1987 (my birthday, by the way, so that’s what _ **I** _ got that year!). But you’re right about _The Joshua Tree_. Which means that _Beatles for Sale_ had been readily available on CD for a month before _The Joshua Tree_ was even released. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450/40 "2005-02-06T22:56:03Z")
> [@Biffy the Elephant Shrew](#): > > Hmm. That date for _Beatles for Sale_ is wrong–the Beatles reissue program was timed so that they’d be up to _Sgt Pepper_ in time for the “20 years ago today” anniversary of its American release on June 2, 1987 (my birthday, by the way, so that’s what _ **I** _ got that year!). Okay, so I was a little off. After further reflection, here’s what I remember happening. —_The Joshua Tree_ wasn’t released until the week after my birthday (March 9th; my birthday is March 2nd). Lucky it was so highly anticipated, or Steve the Idiot would have come back and told me that **that** didn’t exist! I had to wait the extra week, but he did give it to me. (On my actual birthday, he gave me a paperback copy of _Return of the King_. Because he’d heard it was the best of the trilogy. Never mind that I already had a hardback copy of the entire trilogy. Or that he’d earlier bought it for himself, despite never having read _Fellowship_, or even _The Hobbit_, and then left it unread for months.) —Okay, so it wasn’t the following year, but later the same year, that the Beatles CDs were reissued. But I didn’t acquire a CD player until my 18th birthday, so I wouldn’t have been buying CDs until then. I was aware of the reissue at the time, but put it out of my mind until I could take advantage of it. —While we’re at it, am I right about the reissues? ISTR that four CDs were released simultaneously: _Beatles for Sale_, _With the Beatles_, and the UK versions of _Revolver_ and _Rubber Soul_. Correct? > [@](#): > > Which means that _Beatles for Sale_ had been readily available on CD for a month before _The Joshua Tree_ was even released. Huh? March comes before June on my calendar. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subway-weve-never-carried-that-is-not-the-same-as-we-no-longer-carry-that/287450.md?page=3)